Advice on Biogen Whey

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13 Feb 2014 09:52 - 13 Feb 2014 13:36 #161251 by AlexRon
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Being new to this, can anyone give me their thoughts on the protein im taking:
www.biogen.co.za/products/iso-whey

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Whey Protein Hydrolysate, Concentrate and Isolate Blend, Maltodextrin, Cocoa Powder (Only in Choc Flavour), Flavouring, Stabilizer, Non-nutritive Sweetener Blend (Sucralose, Acesulfame-K), Colurant (Only in Strawberry flavor) . - See more at: www.biogen.co.za/products/iso-whey#sthash.2G8pUMgI.dpuf

Is this stuff ok or just not up to stratch

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13 Feb 2014 10:33 #161252 by Rhino
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Not up to scratch. To many fillers and not enough protien

Go big or go home...

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13 Feb 2014 10:37 #161253 by AlexRon
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Thanks Rhino, any thing you could suggest for me to be taking then instead?

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13 Feb 2014 11:15 #161256 by NorthBoy
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Alex, go to the BSSA website, lots of genuine products at a fraction of the price.

www.bssa.biz/

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13 Feb 2014 11:46 #161257 by AlexRon
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OMF, wow, thanks North

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13 Feb 2014 14:21 #161270 by MCJ
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I have a friend who works at Dischem and he told me Biogen is nothing other than USN. Biogen is Dischem's own brand, they just put different labels on etc.

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13 Feb 2014 14:35 #161272 by Empire
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Maltodextrin is a carb, why is it in whey?its a filler, also usn/biogen whey have abnormally high fat contents to their whey up to 20g per 100g. Thats not pure whey isolate as carb and fat content is less than 1g per 100g. That stuff is about as good as a door stop or a foot rest in my opinion
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13 Feb 2014 14:53 #161274 by PoisonedPulse
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AlexRon wrote: Thanks Rhino, any thing you could suggest for me to be taking then instead?


more food bro

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13 Feb 2014 15:05 #161275 by AlexRon
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PP - im hitting my mark of 3500 cal a day at the mo, yesterday I hit 4500 cal

How much more food am I to eat bud?

DJ is saying this stuff is crap... ffs

DJ, just a note, im not using this one, the one im using is not on the site, its called Premium...
Its this one:
dischemonline.co.za/product-view/24346/b...nilla/path/96_97_200

Anyways, I think what im seeing here is that this stuff is cheap crap and I should try BSSA, but which ones am I to purchase?

Advice please

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13 Feb 2014 15:31 #161276 by Muscleaddict
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It says Iso and Premium so it must be good :ohmy: . For local brands rather go with nutritech 100% whey, SSN 100% whey, or Supplements SA Pure Whey.

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13 Feb 2014 15:46 #161277 by AlexRon
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Muscleaddict wrote: It says Iso and Premium so it must be good :ohmy: .


Part of being new to all of this yes....

Thanks for the advice


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13 Feb 2014 16:11 - 13 Feb 2014 16:12 #161278 by Rhino
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What's your stats with all those cals? From your profile pic I'd say your over eating if anything. Are you on cycle and bulking?

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13 Feb 2014 16:20 #161279 by Muscleaddict
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If you ramp up your calories too much suddenly you will gain a fair amount of fat. You need to do it gradually so your body and metabolism can adjust.

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13 Feb 2014 16:38 #161282 by AlexRon
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The truth is ive always never eaten hey, I would always skip breakfast and maybe lunch and eat maybe just dinner, most of the time just snacking on junk..

I would love to get some new measurements and body fat perce taken but not sure where to go for this, I asked my Doc this morning and he said he does not do it..

I finished my cycle about 2 weeks ago, haven't started my PCT's yet, that starts tomorrow, in 6 weeks I put on 5kg

Ive been eating as clean as I can, so not sure how much fat this is or water, the truth is im very lost on all of this and still trying to understand it all.

Eat carbs, don't eat carbs, cycle carbs, do cardio, don't do cardio, everyone seems to provide me with info that does not match..

Its really simple, yet hard

I want to put on some muscle and lose the fat..
Im eating 3500 cal a day - clean
I gym 6 days a week and push as hard as I can

What more is there to it

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13 Feb 2014 17:25 #161285 by Empire
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Ok first things first. If u are not a big eater add 20mins of cardio every morning before breakfast, after a week or two u will see your hunger pick up.

If u are scheduling 7 meals a day in your diet (post work out meal and 6 other meals) and u are eating every 3 hours and u arent getting hungry and feel like getting a meal in is a chore then u are over eating. U need to cut back on the food, get your metabolism racing by doing cardio and once u are hitting a meal every 2 hours then add in more calories to each meal.

Training 6 days a week is counter productive, u need to rest at least 2 days a week. Be it 2 days in a row or after every 2-3 days of training taking a rest is vital. 3 days of rest is better as u grow muscle when u are recovering and sleeping.

Don't over do the volume in your training if u are trying to put on muscle. Do 3-4 exercises and 3-4 sets per exercise at 6-10 reps per set. U should be using a weight light enough u can get at least 6 reps but a weight heavy enough u can't get more than 10.

The lower volume,higher intensity work outs will get your metabolic rate going to.

Remember to stick to compound movement first then isolation. So squats and leg press and deadlifts then go to leg extensions and hamstring curls etc. Yes I have said deadlift in your leg routine!

Keep a log book, each week make sure u are getting more reps or heavier weight for each set of the exercise! This forces progression.

For food : work out your maintaince calories and minus 500 calories, split that up into 7 meals. Try no more than 3 shake meals. Ear every 2-3 hours. U will see that by the time 2 hours comes u will eventually be so ravenous u can't wait to get a meal in. Thats when your metabolic rate is going so then u add more calories to each meal.

Hope that helps
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