Steenkamp wrote: @ Pcyclown, unfortunately there aint one, then again P grade pork aint that cheap buddy, nut I'm a lot cheaper than your average P&P and they sell R,C and U grade meat, nut if you guys are going to buy pork from any butcher ask for P grade it is a bit scarce but most of them know where to get P grade is 8 mm or less back fat, O is up to 10mm fat, R is about 12 and so forth the scale works P,O,R,C,U,S funny i know