6-8 Week Trial (with pics)

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30 Nov 2011 09:22 #84373 by Johhno
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I have been reading quite a bit in these forums (and others) about a great fat cutting program. I would appreciate any critical look into whether my program plan is set up to maximise fat loss. I started training hard from the 31st October 2011 to 30 November 2011, and started with the Velocity Diet (I will post pics - not 100% sure how to post a pic?)

My Stats : 36yrs, Male, 1.80metres in height, around 17-20% Body Fat, Weight = 80-81kg

From the 30th November (Today) my plan is
Kick my body into ketosis (maximum of 50g of carbs a day), and combination of Optimum Nutrition shakes , eggs, chicken, fish, etc.

Week 1
Morning : 40mcg Clen
Morning : Apply Sculpt Gel (Yohimbine HCL) to my chest, abdomen and back/love handles
Before Gym (early afternoon) : Heat (ECA)
After Gym : 40mcg Clen
Before Sleep: Apply Sculpt Gel (Yohimbine HCL) to my chest, abdomen and back/love handles

Week 2 - same as week one, just add more heat, no Clen

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30 Nov 2011 09:32 #84375 by VonD
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No need to split your clen.its has a long enough active life

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30 Nov 2011 09:45 #84377 by jakes
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Bud not trying to tune you shit but you 1.8 and only weigh 80kg. If you drop 10kg you'll be 70kg @ 1.8. That's kak skinny. If your only 80 @ 1.8 you need to think about your diet, because then it must be shit. Leave the clen and shit, get a proper diet and do cardio, in 3 or 4 months you'll be @ 12% bf then do a test and dbol cycle to bulk up a little.

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30 Nov 2011 10:03 #84384 by Deadgoat
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Use www.tinypic.com , paste the forum link (the one with the [img] code in it) into your post.

So you've only been training a month now? How's the results so far been with this velocity diet? Unless its desperately not working for you you should not change things so soon, give it another 4-8 weeks at least. And like jakes mentioned above if you cut now at your bodyweight you'll look Somalian

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30 Nov 2011 10:51 #84393 by Johhno
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Thanks, so I can use the 80mcg in the morning and that should be fine for the whole day.

Velocity Diet results (very little cardio, mainly hard weights)...Started on 87kg, 27-30% body fat, ended today on 80.5kg, 17-20% body fat. Velocity Diet lasts for 28 days.

I understand the weight issue, and I actually would not mind focusing on the muscle, however, as per Lyle McDonald, unless we blessed with great genetics focus on Fat Loss or Muscle Gain (and as you can note from 27-30% body Fat I need to focus on fat loss first).

Also, primarily I am hoping that if I can see a 6-pack, my motivation to keep training will last.
Will post my pics before the Velocity Diet and After (Now - although these pics are flexed to show the amount of Body Fat remaining!) :-)

Proxy blocks my access to tinypic, will have to do from home.

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30 Nov 2011 11:01 #84398 by jakes
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I can tell you now genetics isn't your problem my friend, its the diet. You already dropped 10% natural, why do you want to use clen? You can drop that weight natural too and then bulk. If your diet is on point and you pin something like equi with test you will drop bodyfat and gain quality mass.

If you insist on using clen start at 40mcg and work yourself up to 120mcg and tapper down (2weeks on, 2weeks off) unless you are using betasleep so that your receptors don't downgrade

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30 Nov 2011 14:16 #84412 by Johhno
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The attached link shows my progress in 1 month of the velocity diet. In the pic it is very evident that I need to lose more fat... Reason I want to take clen is that it apparently will be much faster than the normal wait? And I want the six pack much faster :-)

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30 Nov 2011 14:40 #84415 by jakes
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Firstly, I am glad you realized that wax strips exist :whistle: secondly, that's some major progress right there in a very small amount of time, my advice and honest opinion is that you are too hasty. Lose the last 8% naturally, then hit a test cyp and dbol cycle. You have a good frame, use it. You are burning fat fast, you don't need to waste money on clen and shit. Patience bud.

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30 Nov 2011 14:50 #84416 by Johhno
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Thank god for laser!
Can you give me more info on test cyp and dbol cycle or point me to the right place?

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30 Nov 2011 15:03 #84418 by jakes
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Go to the sample cycle section. Its under beginners bulking cycle. Basically its a 10 or 12 week cycle consisting of test (500mg cyp or 600mg enanthant) both don't cause much injection pain. This is pinned twice a week (every forth day) and for the first 4 weeks 40mg dbol ed. You can also add an anti estrogen to eliminate water. If your a first time user you can expect great gains

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30 Nov 2011 15:17 #84422 by jackrabbit1
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Johhno wrote: Thank god for laser!
Can you give me more info on test cyp and dbol cycle or point me to the right place?


What did you pay for the Laser treatment if you dont mind me asking?

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30 Nov 2011 17:52 #84440 by Johhno
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Paid R1299.00 from those discounted voucher sites...for entire upper body

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30 Nov 2011 17:56 #84441 by jakes
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And the hair never grows back? That isn't bad actually

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30 Nov 2011 18:17 #84443 by Empire
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Do not run heat and clen at the same time bud.. That's gonna put major strain on the heart!

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30 Nov 2011 18:37 #84445 by Johhno
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Funny thing is before I had the heat, I did not even feel the clen at all...40mcg...did feel the heat though :-)

I am only taking 1tab of heat currently which is helping my energy during the workout, cos ketosis is kicking me down...

Plan to up my heat dosage when alternating weeks. I am seriously questioning as per Jakes whether I should continue with clen or just try it naturally... Only reason I am doing clen and sculpt is too maximize as I think I have reached a plateu?

Laser is actually expensive, u need 8+ treatments and all you get is permanent. Hair reduction ... Not removal... The main benefit is that the hair regrets is about 6-8 weeks, which beats shaving and event, and waxing is just too painful

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30 Nov 2011 18:41 #84446 by Empire
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Bud u are playing with fire running them together. Rather run clen and sculpt,clen at 80-120mcg a day with betasleep. So u don't have receptor down grade,and then after 2 weeks go on to heat and betasleep,don't run them together.
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30 Nov 2011 18:56 #84448 by Johhno
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Cool, I am by no means an expert, and will follow your advice...I will take 80mcg for the next 3 days and then up the dose...will alternate fortnightly and swap out th Clen with the heat, but still use the yohimbine Hcl ...

I will also post weekly pics and hope this will keep me on the straight and narrow

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02 Dec 2011 22:10 #84686 by DC EVO
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The Velocity Diet - is this the same Velocity Diet they push/advertise on T-Muslce/T-Nation?

EVO Fitness - TRAIN - EVOLVE - www.evofitness.co.za

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02 Dec 2011 22:38 #84689 by Johhno
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Yes, but I modified it since no bio test in SA

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03 Dec 2011 06:29 #84694 by jakes
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The guys on t nation are stupid. They start pct when using test and deca in 14days :lol:

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03 Dec 2011 09:54 #84715 by Johhno
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I agree, they sell bio test, and you can only achieve results through bio test.

I modified their program to do a heavy protein diet, carbs only after training and essential fatty acids

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06 Dec 2011 14:26 #84986 by smally99
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Hey johhno.. I also have abit of a stomach and have been struggling to get it down for the past four months and I know my diet is rubbish but workn on it slowly but I want to know is there any exercises u did to reduce stomach size..and did u have carbs only aftr gym or at breakfast aswell?

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06 Dec 2011 14:38 #84987 by Johhno
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No Carbs for the 1st month (exept a cranberry juice immediately after my workout - 250ml). Ate flax seed tabs and almonds during the day, rest of my meals were protein shakes (and 1 healthy solid meal for the week).

Only cardio I did is 20 minutes light cardio in the morning on an empty stomach (heart rate never above 130bpm).
14:00 I would do a weights session that would last anywhere between 45mins to 1:30. If I did not feel the muscle pain the next day, I did not work the muscle sufficiently. In the evening I would do yoga stretches (really good stuff).

Ab exercises limited to 3 times a week, 20-30 minutes of a killer session.

My weights sessions count, I really go all out (not necessarily by weight, but by burn)... generally we train within ourselves (mental barrier), and you have to push yourself past that mental barrier for results (form is really most important)

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06 Dec 2011 15:03 #84989 by smally99
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Tanx man..no carbs for a month..tough for me to keep away from but will have to work on it..much appreciated man..

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09 Dec 2011 08:27 #85186 by Johhno
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1 week later, not seeing much progress in fat loss ... Mmmm?
This week i alternate off the clen onto the heat (4 a day). I must say that heat gives me the jitters!
According to my biometric impedence scale, i am 17.8% body fat and weigh in at 79.6 kg... Not sure how accurate these things really are though

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