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MK-677 / Nutrabol in stead of HGH
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I have been thinking of doing HGH this year, EU pharma at 2 IU daily for 3 months, and if sides are not too bad bump up to 3IU from month 4 - 6.
However I have read up on SARMS and 677 seems like interesting peptide and thought I might do it for 6 months and then only move over to HGH, at 30mg a day.
Has anyone had good or similar results using mk677 versus real HGH?
I will also add in GW-501516 / Cardarine
In regards to brands, EU vs LP SARMS - does any one have experience on both?
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But that doesn't mean 30mg is on par with 2IU. Maybe 1.5IU max. The added effectiveness decreases exponentially as you increase the dose. So taking more than 30mg gives very little benefit. I've seen some people's bloodwork posted online that showed a better response to MK677, equivalent to 2-3IU HGH but that is not normal and I wonder if it's even real. Probably guys who are selling it...
LP MK677 is decent. If you're buying HGH, Eutropin is very good shit.
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Guys here that used EU HGH got decent results from a good product
Might rather just stick to proper HGH and add Cardarine
Is there another SARM you would recommend to add with the above for adding mucsle/strength, endurance and fat loss?
Will look at doing cycle test enan or cyp at month 4 or so
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How does eu work, do you reconstruct 10 iu at a time. Can this then be kept in fridge for 5 days for 2 IU a day?
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Eutropin has benzyl alcohol added as a preservative which is what you want. Most water you get with Chinese HGH is just saline water which is nowhere near as good a preservative for proteins. So you can mix a vial and keep it for 5 days without worrying about degradation.
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Cardarine 20mg daily for 8 weeks
Add test at 200/250mg per week a few weeks from now
Will update here monthly or so on my 1st experience with HGH
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Hygetropin00pump wrote: What hGH
No one can get EU with the bust that happened
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Hygetropin00pump wrote: What hGH
No one can get EU with the bust that happened
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Hope it's not fake. If you over 25 I'd suggest to do a IGF test after a month and make sure it's over 200. Would be good info for everyone looking for legit growth. I just spent R7085 (price only stated as its standard pharma price) for a months supply of pharma yesterday, not impressed and it's a fraction of the dose I was running. We need legit UG
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I'll definitely do it to confirm
Can I go directly to lancet or ampath
Is there another name for the test that I need to ask for?
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Not the cheapest test at around R600, but a small price to pay to prevent you from wasting more money on bunk HGH.
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Will post results and do again in 30 days
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crawler wrote: So my igf1 is pretty high, at the higher end of scale
237. Male. Age 34
Is there reason for it to be over 200 without any supplements etc
Will get another reading end of month after 30 days on GH
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My last test was 238 ng/mL while not on GH. So using GH you would expect that reading to be allot higher than that. Unless your normal GH levels where extensively low.
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This time I want to do testosterone as well, as I'll start trt from March
Out of the following what is necessary and what can be left out, anything to add maybe?
HPTA
LH
FSH
Total Testosterone
Free Testosterone
Estradiol
RBC
Glucose
Blood urea nitrgogen
chreatinin
HDL/LDL
AST
ALT
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They should include Total Test - TT, Free Test - FT, SHBG - Sex Hormone Binding Globulin, Estradiol (E2 sensitive assay), LH - Leutinising Hormone and FSH - Follicle Stimulating Hormone, plus PSA - Prostate Specific Antigen
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crawler wrote: Or can I only do following. As per trt sticky
They should include Total Test - TT, Free Test - FT, SHBG - Sex Hormone Binding Globulin, Estradiol (E2 sensitive assay), LH - Leutinising Hormone and FSH - Follicle Stimulating Hormone, plus PSA - Prostate Specific Antigen
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These are good. Not sure if you need PSA, but I would look at GAMMA GT as well as ALT/AST
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crawler wrote: Or can I only do following. As per trt sticky
They should include Total Test - TT, Free Test - FT, SHBG - Sex Hormone Binding Globulin, Estradiol (E2 sensitive assay), LH - Leutinising Hormone and FSH - Follicle Stimulating Hormone, plus PSA - Prostate Specific Antigen
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Thanks so will do following then
Gamma GT
AST
ALT
Total Test - TT
Free Test - FT,
SHBG - Sex Hormone Binding Globulin
Estradiol (E2 sensitive assay)
LH - Leutinising Hormone
FSH - Follicle Stimulating Hormone
And of course IGF1
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1st time doing bloods. So I need input00pump wrote: What are you using LH and FSH for?
That was as per trt sticky recommendation
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And all way down to 171 from 237 a month back
What would cause it to go down so much?
Better question is what have I been injecting the last month... Is this proof enough my HGH is fake?
By how much could I expect to go up if HGH was legit from original 237
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