1st Cycle, how long between 1st & Cycle... PCT¿?

i mean you can run 8 weeks of var just drop the dose a little for the duration that you're running...but 6 weeks at 40mg is perfectly fine. Considering the test will take around 40 to 45 days to clear the system after the last injection on week 10 of test cyp, you'd want to have the anavar to support you while your test levels drop... then start pct at the end of the anavar cycle.

25mg of proviron wouldn't be a bad idea to run straight through from now til pct i think.
Side note hope you're injecting 0.5 ml 2x a week and not 1ml 1x a week. Stable blood levels are everything

Thanks for the input..

So because of the calendar I'm going to run Cyp for 9 weeks, and will start Var with it tomorrow (half way through week 3).. Until week 9, therefore completing 5 weeks of Var and Cyp.

I hear you re taking Var after but then I'm taking through Christmas peroid which wouldn't work as well with holidays etc so want to be done before.

Want to finish the cycle before Christmas so I can take the necessary recovery time before a proper PCT and hopefully go again next year March maybe.

Thanks

Sorry bro, quick one..

How do I split 40mg ed, I get 20/20 but should I take before bed or not?

Will be taking at 5/6am (train in mornings to) and then either around 1/2pm OR in the evening...

Thanks

MadGainz wrote: Sorry bro, quick one..

How do I split 40mg ed, I get 20/20 but should I take before bed or not?

Will be taking at 5/6am (train in mornings to) and then either around 1/2pm OR in the evening...

Thanks

After first dose, just wait 12hrs and pop another 20mg.
As close to 12hrs as is convenient for you is fine.
So first 20mg at 5am then another 20mg at 5pm is fine.

be prepared for a bit of a moody feeling of not using anything from the last dose til pct then... some of it will be in your mind though.. These things affect you more than just physically and internally... your mindset changes as well.. good luck bro

I hear you bro, all good. Thanks for the heads up!

Hey bro,

Hope you're good..

Wondering with Var (hypothetically), how and when could I increase from 40mg ed (20/20)...

I'm in no rush at all, just want to maximise gains where possible, without hindering the self in the process too much..

Done 7 days now, was thinking of upping to 50mg (30/20) for next 2 weeks and then reassessing.

Appreciate any thoughts.

Thanks!

increase it on week 3 to 50mg if you feel. personally don't see the need to increase though. I used 3omg on my contest prep

Hey bro,

Although I don't have any Gyno signs, keeping my eye out and wanted to know if there is anything I could take with the Cyp/Var should I spot any signs?...

Want to be proactive and take a cautious approach and therefore get before holidays (whilst I can)...

Thanks

Anastrozole (Arimidex).
Dosing obviously depends on symptomatology and/or E2 levels.

Been looking at this post again re bridging the Var whilst waiting for the Cyp to clear to begin PCT...

What are your thoughts on, after completing the 6 weeks of Var (and taking last Cyp Pin at same time), running a Tbol bridge for up to 6 weeks?

Is it too much orals on the liver? Would then potentially begin PCT.

Got my reasons for wanting to run Tbol just wouldn't do it if it doesn't sound a good choice having run Var.

Thank you.

MadGainz wrote: Been looking at this post again re bridging the Var whilst waiting for the Cyp to clear to begin PCT...

What are your thoughts on, after completing the 6 weeks of Var (and taking last Cyp Pin at same time), running a Tbol bridge for up to 6 weeks?

Is it too much orals on the liver? Would then potentially begin PCT.

Got my reasons for wanting to run Tbol just wouldn't do it if it doesn't sound a good choice having run Var.

Thank you.

Sounds like a lot of orals. Running 2 c17-α alkylated compounds one after the other for 8 weeks?
Probably not a good idea.

If you decide to, check liver enzymes once you cease anavar use. If they're elevated and anything close to 3 digits... you are in dangerous territory.

Things like stanozolol are pretty damn good at binding to SHBG and freeing T, at low doses maybe you could use that.
But overall 2 months of C17-αa orals is not a good idea.

EDIT: oh shit 12 weeks of orals? Yeah you should not do that. That is why I suggested IF you want to bridge on an oral start anavar later in the cycle. I would just let the test cyp clear and start a PCT.

Thought it might be too long, thanks, obviously won't do it...

I get what you mean re delaying Var by 4 weeks, all good though - happy as is will simply wait for the Cyp to clear and then PCT.

Is it also not advisable to extend the Var past the 6 weeks, maybe at a smaller dosage?. Was thinking of 2 more weeks (ie. 8 weeks)..

Wanted to bridge something but not if not recommended.

Thanks

I've done 12 weeks of orals before. tbol cycle used 40mgs for the most part and had it at 60mg a day at some point. Looked epic on it. Buuut I was using just tbol no test. Also didn't know of this forums existence... still felt awesome though no drop in libido or anything. didn't do bloods. used clomid for like a week and stayed off gear for 3 months... did bloods and all my markers were within range. still wouldn't recommend, not everyone can respond the same

That's hectic bro! And this is why I'm trying to do my ground work now man, so I can calculate risks etc and listen to experiential knowledge (dig this forum for that, very informative)..

Although very keen to give Tbol a blast I'm not going to touch it whilst using Var.. Will run Var for 8 weeks and pay the patience game till PCT whilst just continuing to focus on nutrition, training lifestyle etc..

Seen some solid gains so very happy thus far although would like to know what's going on under the surface.

@MadGainz how was the cycle and PCT going?

Hi MPhilosopher - Thanks for the follow up...

Everything going really well to be honest, this far a great experience.

Today is day 33 since my last Cyp pin, so doing as advised and waiting a bit longer for it to clear before doing PCT. Will give it 40 days.

Started at 71kgs and got to a solid 84kgs (however I did start increasing the meal frequency and calories at the same time/before 1st pin so not saying the jump in weight was all down to the Cyp at all)...

Ran Var for 8 weeks to and leaned out nicely, personally only started seeing results at 80mg which may be too much buy was only for the last 10days)..

Been off everything for 33days now and feel awesome, weighing a lean 82kgs, training just as hard, strength still up (I understand Cyp still not cleared the system just yet) but feeling good!

I wanted a lean 80kgs and so I'm happy.

Thanks man

Good to hear man.
Great results, good job!

lets see some pics bro from beginning to end

Hey bro, pls tell me, how long after completing PCT is advised to wait before getting back on a 10 week Cyp?..

Thanks

MadGainz wrote: Hey bro, pls tell me, how long after completing PCT is advised to wait before getting back on a 10 week Cyp?..

Thanks

At the very least, enough time to tell how you've bounced back a month or two after you conclude your PCT.

I would wait it out as long as possible if doing two cycles a year.
If you are ~35, I mean you natural levels are likely declining, and your recovery will not be to the same levels as 1 year ago each time you cycle, especially.

Check if TRT is an option for you (get blood levels tested).
Get the opinions of other members/doctors.
35-45 seems to be a place where TRT enters the room for most people.

Thanks MPhilosopher...

Will see how I recover from PCT and go from there. Don't want to rush back in and mess my body up long term, although would be great to be on something between cycles!

Started PCT today, training going solid still, dropped a few kgs but still happy. Making it up in the kitchen!

Going to put off TRT as long as possible as once you've started that's pretty much it right (at the cost of a better life maybe) but not yet, waiting it out!

Thanks man

MadGainz wrote: Thanks MPhilosopher...

Will see how I recover from PCT and go from there. Don't want to rush back in and mess my body up long term, although would be great to be on something between cycles!

Started PCT today, training going solid still, dropped a few kgs but still happy. Making it up in the kitchen!

Going to put off TRT as long as possible as once you've started that's pretty much it right (at the cost of a better life maybe) but not yet, waiting it out!

Thanks man

Yes that sounds good, I actually think 2 months would be too short so ignore that, def wait longer.

Nice.
Let us know how PCT goes when you get there.

Yes don't hop on TRT if not needed. I see no reason men should accept low free T levels.
Brain health alone, we should all be at the upper range.

Thanks man, appreciated..

Started PCT protocol 1 yesterday.

Re TRT/checking Test levels, when is advisable to check levels, after PCT?..

I guess this would give me an indication as to how I should go forward re TRT, and also when I can start another Cyp cycle (or not the later as much?)...

Thanks

Sorry bro another question...

Didn't want to assume on this and this might sound a silly one - If I have Test Cyp 250mg/ml but I only want to inject 200mg and not 250mg, how much would I use (ie 0.7?)..

Not that I'm using but just curious.

Thanks!