1st Cycle, how long between 1st & Cycle... PCT¿?

MadGainz wrote: Hey bro, pls tell me, how long after completing PCT is advised to wait before getting back on a 10 week Cyp?..

Thanks

At the very least, enough time to tell how you've bounced back a month or two after you conclude your PCT.

I would wait it out as long as possible if doing two cycles a year.
If you are ~35, I mean you natural levels are likely declining, and your recovery will not be to the same levels as 1 year ago each time you cycle, especially.

Check if TRT is an option for you (get blood levels tested).
Get the opinions of other members/doctors.
35-45 seems to be a place where TRT enters the room for most people.

Thanks MPhilosopher...

Will see how I recover from PCT and go from there. Don't want to rush back in and mess my body up long term, although would be great to be on something between cycles!

Started PCT today, training going solid still, dropped a few kgs but still happy. Making it up in the kitchen!

Going to put off TRT as long as possible as once you've started that's pretty much it right (at the cost of a better life maybe) but not yet, waiting it out!

Thanks man

MadGainz wrote: Thanks MPhilosopher...

Will see how I recover from PCT and go from there. Don't want to rush back in and mess my body up long term, although would be great to be on something between cycles!

Started PCT today, training going solid still, dropped a few kgs but still happy. Making it up in the kitchen!

Going to put off TRT as long as possible as once you've started that's pretty much it right (at the cost of a better life maybe) but not yet, waiting it out!

Thanks man

Yes that sounds good, I actually think 2 months would be too short so ignore that, def wait longer.

Nice.
Let us know how PCT goes when you get there.

Yes don't hop on TRT if not needed. I see no reason men should accept low free T levels.
Brain health alone, we should all be at the upper range.

Thanks man, appreciated..

Started PCT protocol 1 yesterday.

Re TRT/checking Test levels, when is advisable to check levels, after PCT?..

I guess this would give me an indication as to how I should go forward re TRT, and also when I can start another Cyp cycle (or not the later as much?)...

Thanks

Sorry bro another question...

Didn't want to assume on this and this might sound a silly one - If I have Test Cyp 250mg/ml but I only want to inject 200mg and not 250mg, how much would I use (ie 0.7?)..

Not that I'm using but just curious.

Thanks!

100% of an ml contains 250mg.

250/200 = 0.8
So 80% of an ml contains 200mg.

So 0.8ml is your answer.

Thanks man, makes sense - figured this as I sent my message...

Been doing a ton of research on TRT, literally watching back to back videos and reading as much literature as I can on it (great article on here too!)...

Thus far can't see why I wouldn't do it.. I turn 35 next month so a good time to as well.

Clinical route or not, just makes so much sense. Thing is I've just started a PCT 2days ago, would be pointless though IF I decided tongo TRT...

All hypothetical thus far, but have my reasons for wanting to.

MadGainz wrote: Thanks man, makes sense - figured this as I sent my message...

Been doing a ton of research on TRT, literally watching back to back videos and reading as much literature as I can on it (great article on here too!)...

Thus far can't see why I wouldn't do it.. I turn 35 next month so a good time to as well.

Clinical route or not, just makes so much sense. Thing is I've just started a PCT 2days ago, would be pointless though IF I decided tongo TRT...

All hypothetical thus far, but have my reasons for wanting to.

I really do not think anyone should do it without a doc.
And there is always a chance your natural production is at the upper end.

But yeah clinically speaking, replacing what is not there, or not optimal is very logical.

I pretty much brought it up so you realize recovery is not possible (or rather can take a really long time) for some people.

I got disagreements for mentioning TRT in another thread, but I stand by: rather guys take their levels into the upper-normal range working with a doc than blast supraphysiological dosages and hope you bounce back.

You can always get hormones tested privately a while after PCT is done and members can help you out.

Sounds logical to me to, especially the more I research on it...

I want my test to be at the top of the range and won't accept less.

I agree re going the clinical route just need to find a doc in CT who will listen. New in the area so will have some more research to do there.

I'm glad you brought it up and you going to get disagreements in every thread and ruffle many feathers I'm sure but it's all part of people's research hey. Sounds logical to me!

MadGainz wrote: Hi MPhilosopher - Thanks for the follow up...

Everything going really well to be honest, this far a great experience.

Today is day 33 since my last Cyp pin, so doing as advised and waiting a bit longer for it to clear before doing PCT. Will give it 40 days.

Started at 71kgs and got to a solid 84kgs (however I did start increasing the meal frequency and calories at the same time/before 1st pin so not saying the jump in weight was all down to the Cyp at all)...

Ran Var for 8 weeks to and leaned out nicely, personally only started seeing results at 80mg which may be too much buy was only for the last 10days)..

Been off everything for 33days now and feel awesome, weighing a lean 82kgs, training just as hard, strength still up (I understand Cyp still not cleared the system just yet) but feeling good!

I wanted a lean 80kgs and so I'm happy.

Thanks man

Hey bud, how you doing after your pct, feeling recovered?
Keen to hear what your stats are now, how much muscle and strength you've maintained.
Ciao