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11 Oct 2010 05:51 #52717 by Lesa
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I have a friend who came off gear about 4-5 months ago. He Was on Test only cycle and was his first cycle for about 3 months. He did a 30 day PCT with Nolva and Clomid. After the PCT the dude started breaking out badly on his face and back. I know we get acne while on cycle but i dont get it why is this guy breaking out after his PCT up to now so long after the cycle. I know hormonal imbalance causes acne breakouts but what im curious about is which kind of imbalance? Low test or high test? low or high estrogen? Or can it be any of these. Anyone got these issues after the cycle?

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11 Oct 2010 06:44 #52734 by Mr_SA
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Yeah... its some sort of imbalance. I aint sure which one.
What gear was he on?
While on gear, and even off... you should try shower twice a day to keep the skin clean.

For now, get him to get some Accutane from the doctor to clear it up.

Search "acne" on the forum, as this has been discussed quite a few times... there might be some good answers there already.

Give it a shot, you're only TESTing it...

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11 Oct 2010 06:49 #52735 by Empire
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if has an issue,tell him to get niz shampoo from dischem and use it as a face wash,also if that doesnt work tetralysil is an antibiotic for acne.

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11 Oct 2010 06:51 #52736 by mrwhite
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11 Oct 2010 06:58 #52740 by Lesa
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He is 31 and he claims he NEVER had acne issues. Im not gonna put him on accutane that stuff is real hardcore on the bone marrow plus it has a lot of other nasty side effects. Im going to recommend the keto shampoo to him i was reading up somewhere that it actually works well against steroid induced acne. What is starnge though is that he has acne so long after the cycle. He was on pharma grade gear very good quality stuff and had very good gains so its not specific to gear.

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11 Oct 2010 07:32 #52743 by Morphosis
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Lesa wrote: I have a friend who came off gear about 4-5 months ago. He Was on Test only cycle and was his first cycle for about 3 months. He did a 30 day PCT with Nolva and Clomid. After the PCT the dude started breaking out badly on his face and back. I know we get acne while on cycle but i dont get it why is this guy breaking out after his PCT up to now so long after the cycle. I know hormonal imbalance causes acne breakouts but what im curious about is which kind of imbalance? Low test or high test? low or high estrogen? Or can it be any of these. Anyone got these issues after the cycle?


Hi Lesa:

I also have the same problem, finished cycle + PCT's about 5 months back, and still today my shoulders and arms are full of white heads.... also don't know why....

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11 Oct 2010 08:22 #52762 by 00pump
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It is a simple hormone imbalance.. Go do blood tests... Also do a detox as steroids are toxic.

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11 Oct 2010 09:34 #52772 by Lesa
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Yes he has lots of white heads on his forehead though and they almost look like measels. Then u get those little red ones with one or two cycstic pimples. Looks terrible.

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11 Oct 2010 10:18 #52778 by Morphosis
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00pump wrote: It is a simple hormone imbalance.. Go do blood tests... Also do a detox as steroids are toxic.


Hi pump:

What tests should i do and what sort of detox?

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11 Oct 2010 11:00 #52788 by 00pump
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Tests, would be some hormone balance. Do you have too much testosterone or too little, do you have to much estrogen or not enough, etc.

If you tests come back with a health base between X -> Y then your body just might need time to adjust to the current hormone levels.

Detox I would consider something to really flush out the body, I find a great detox is grapes only with grape juice and water for 4 days. Yes this is very difficult as a bodybuilder when we require protein, however the detox doesn't work if not structured correctly. You are allowed to eat as much grapes and drink grape juice as you like. After 1 day you will be going for a piss every few minutes. You will also develop a major detox head ache.

I would suggest you can include and would advise you to include 4/5 cups of green tea a day which is full of antioxidants.

Good luck

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11 Oct 2010 14:26 #52830 by bones
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I've also started having breakouts in the last 2 months. Previously i had the odd pimple, but nothing too serious. In the last 2 months I've had breakouts mostly on my forhead. Basically I have to much free testosterone in my body. The training, coupled with playing soccer has caused the break outs. Ive started using Neostrata Products in the last week, and can already notice the difference. My skin is smoother and have not had any new pimples since I started using the products. What i do have is a few pimples scars, but i migh consider going for a chemical peel to remove the scars in the next 2 monthsif it does not improve.

I use the following products.:-
www.neostrata.com/product/neostrata+oily....do?sortby=ourPicks#

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11 Oct 2010 18:15 #52842 by vega5
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I personally think its bacteria related but that my opinion. This sounds very similar to a issue my sister had a couple of years ago but she didn't use juice. So no doctor could help so she went to a homeopath and those really siff zits on her forearms and legs went away.

Maybe try one coarse of Zithromax.

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11 Oct 2010 19:06 #52844 by Lesa
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The steroid induced acne is caused by DHT in the skin forming oil molecules and causing bacterial infection hence acne BUT everyone keeps saying hormonal imblanace is the issue. High DHT lvl would (By logic) be when your test lvls are high during the cycle. Some people are breaking out during PCT once pregnyl is administered because hcg gives those test spikes. So where is this leading. Does anyone actually know what it is exactly that causes it. Test lvl spikes? Thats where i would put my money

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11 Oct 2010 19:38 #52846 by N3rd
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IMO if the acne doesn't want to go away, Accutane is the answer, but it is hectic stuff that does give your immune system a beating. But the result is permanent.

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11 Oct 2010 21:17 #52852 by Tippster
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Has anyone here used accutane before and if so at what dose?

I only breakout on cycle but I am clear off cycle.

I am on a 10 week course of accutane at 40mg for 4 weeks and 60mg for the last 6 weeks - Hoping this will permanently help with no more breakouts on cycle.

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12 Oct 2010 20:54 #52939 by Yohimbe
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Its hormonal, but prolactin and estrogen can be culprits. Prolactin can be thrown out of whack whenever there is an imbalance, and even when the imbalance has been rectified, the prolactin imbalance can persist.
I would suggest trying an anti e with bromo and see if it helps.

Old fail safes are doxycycline and then the big guns accutane

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13 Oct 2010 19:36 #53111 by Lesa
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from what i understood about steroid induced acne DHT is the culprit of oily skin. I dont see how estrogen and prolactin can cause acne .

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13 Oct 2010 22:05 #53116 by Yohimbe
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Lesa wrote: from what i understood about steroid induced acne DHT is the culprit of oily skin. I dont see how estrogen and prolactin can cause acne .


Why do women get acne that is regulated using progesterone based birth control?
Any hormonal imbalance can cause acne, dht isnt the only culprit. A lot suffer worse acne using clomid, which is a mild estrogen, post cycle than 1g of test on cycle

www.christianet.com/acne/estrogenrelatedcysticacne.htm

There is no cut and dried answers with acne and its usually a variety of hormones that are out of whack that cause it. Your hormones are most out of whack during and immediately after pct, esp if not done correctly.
There are other factors that can cause flair ups that aren t dht related-people often breakout during periods of stress-the prolonged cortisol has impact on balance of hormones

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14 Oct 2010 07:49 #53141 by Beastie
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Hi Guys,

Had the same issues on Dianabol,Test CYP cycle, My acne actually started when i went to my Physio for my lower back while on cycle due to the back pumps from D/Bol the area he rubbed started with Pimples and it spread like wild fire all over my back hate that f*cking pimples on my back and you are to shy to walk around without a shirt to show off the hard earned abbbs and chest due to the Acne!

Any way my doc gave me CYCLIMYCIN it is a very long course but works wonders my skin has cleared up and I use to have the volcanic type Pimple that hurt like hell, I now scrub my back with GILL and use CYCLIMYSIN daily. It really works, but If you can keep your back clean to start with it certainly helps.

The bacteria that causes acne lives inside your Nose they also prescribe a Anti bacterial ointment to kill the germs. I use to joke that My Phisio probably scratshes his nose that why I got Pimples on the spots he rubbed! HAHA Let me know if you have used this before?

Cheers

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17 Oct 2010 19:40 #53352 by vega5
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This might be one of those where if we twist Admin's arm he might be able to persuade Doctari to come and swing by quickly.

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19 Oct 2010 19:06 #53497 by Lesa
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yea i was hoping for that too

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31 Oct 2010 18:29 #54424 by Lesa
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ok so it has been around 3-4 weeks now of using face clensing products + bezyol peroxide cream and keto shampoo and my mates acne is not getting better.He also used dyxlocicine or something like that (anti-biotic). Its actually has its days when the hectic pimples go down and then go up again. He says his sex drive is fine but the fiance is very unhappy with this acne issue and since i got him the gear im the one being blamed. I never had a issue with a athlete getting acne so long after a cycle.So im sending him for some bloods. What are the exact tests we should be looking at here.

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31 Oct 2010 20:47 #54430 by Yohimbe
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Lesa wrote: ok so it has been around 3-4 weeks now of using face clensing products + bezyol peroxide cream and keto shampoo and my mates acne is not getting better.He also used dyxlocicine or something like that (anti-biotic). Its actually has its days when the hectic pimples go down and then go up again. He says his sex drive is fine but the fiance is very unhappy with this acne issue and since i got him the gear im the one being blamed. I never had a issue with a athlete getting acne so long after a cycle.So im sending him for some bloods. What are the exact tests we should be looking at here.


If its that bad and the doxy isn't working, he should just bite the bullet and get some Roacutane-can be a bit harsh on the system but works 100% of the time-never come across anyone who didn't have a dramatic improvement in the skin on Roacutane. There are quite a few generics out there that aren't too costly.
I think the best is to run it at a lowish dose to minimize sides-like 20mg per day for 4-6 months.
THe thing with Roacutnae as well is it shrinks the sebaceous glands so even if he decides to do another cycle and he gets a break out again, it will never be as bad.

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01 Nov 2010 06:45 #54450 by 00pump
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I would not mess with Roacutane... Rather read my posts with regards to Acne that I have said in the past, there is MUCH BETTER products that are nowhere near as lethal as Roacatane and will not destroy your liver, you cannot take those doses of vitiman A and think you going to be ok, i'd rather live with the acne than use that crap.

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01 Nov 2010 14:26 #54530 by bones
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I don't think the peroxide is gonna help with the Acne issues, mainly cos it is caused by an hormonal imbalance. I'm using Neostrata products. Its a bit pricey, but i can see the difference already.

I started having breakouts since i started playing soccer again.

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