Transition into PCT & off cycle

Ok, a number of people emailed me as they thought this thread needs my attention... including a mail from Miguel himself.

I'm not going to bother getting involved in the childish manner this debate has been handled or should I call it dick measuring that's been taking place here. I gave my feedback to Miguel via email about his questions already.

I understand that people will never see things in same perspective, but whenever that is professionally handled and debated good conclusions can be made.

When this forum first started it was pretty civilized and the members I initially invited to join were all contributing by supplying clear advice and they were all very open to what others had to offer.

The question is where are those guys? What happened to most? Why did some leave?
The answer is clear when you look at the posts above...

I remember some time ago when two highly knowledgeable members became involved in a very intense debate about PCT/HCG... They were Doctari and Conan. Both had their views on how it should be done and both have years of experience after training hundreds of athletes. They disagreed to such a level that Doctari ended up leaving, however both he and conan decided to handle it like real men and arranged a meeting. Doc bought a plane ticket and visited Conan where they discussed their views and in the end came to the conclusion that is known as Doctari's PCT. The work was ultimately done by Doctari, but without the debate on this forum we would have never had the best PCT know to man.

Why did doc stop posting on this forum?
I asked him and his reply was that he got sick of proving his post to boys that hardly passed matric when he studied years for a medical degree... (and is currently getting his phd in sport science at bloem university)

The point I'm trying to make is that I'm not willing to lose more of the great members due to some acting like children. I have nothing against the questions asked here as they are valid in my opinion, but don't ask or answer questions if you are only going to argue for the fun of it.

The above goes for the entire forum and every thread created. The last thing I want is for this forum to turn into the shit hole called bodybuilding.com or steroid.com or even worse facebook...

I made pump00 a moderator together with the others because I greatly value their importance on this forum and I think they should be treated with the respect they deserve just like everyone else here.

The time has come for me to rethink how this forum will be managed if we plan to survive as SA's top online community for steroid users.

"And that is all ive ever said, maybe not in those words". Trust me, my quotation of you is verbatim. You also said that based on your personal experience using high doses of tamoxifen & letrozole for months, the only way to treat gynaecomastia is to have it surgically removed. But...

I sincerely apologize, pump, for chasing you for a retraction/ evidence, like a pride of lions after a wounded buffalo. It was very unbecoming of me. And I also accept your apology.

I'll be posting up a thread on a certain PCT, of my own design, soon. Along with it I'll provide some citations, references & even critique. Obviously, it will be open & free for everyone to read & comment on. But where a bold claim is made, by myself or any other forum member, I do believe it should come with at least one supportive reference. Thank you