Clenbuterol help

hi, am a 20 year old male trying to lose weight (about 15kg's) and im thinking of taking Clenbuterol. i just want to know how risky it is. i have read up about it and i know about all the possible side effects which are mainly heart problems. how effective is clenbuterol, if it really really effective i think its worth the risk but it not then i dont think i will take it. i gym 5 days a week 3 days of muscle strengthening and 2 days of cardio. i weight 77kg's at the moment and im about 1.56m tall (not to tall then). please if anyone can give me some info and advice on this thanks.

It's quite safe under correct dosages. Like any fatburner, it strains the heart. It is effective, but your diet has to be spot on as well to lose weight properly. How is your diet, can you post it up here? Why not change your weight training to 5 times a week and do cardio post training for 20-30 min low intensity, then certain days do cardio for 45min in the morning on an empty stomach. You can then skip the post cardio that day then

thanks for your reply, uhm my diet isnt to bad at the moment but no where near good.

i normally start my day at 5:30am with a gym session on an empty stomach normally just sipping on my water throughout my session. my sessions vary but i always try gym for atleast 35min on weight training day with 10min post cardio. i will have breakfast when i get home which is normally a high fiber cereal like kellogs all brand or weetbix. i normally have some toast about 2 hours later(health oats bread).

my lunch varies but will normally be like fish fingers or a fresh sandwich.

my dinner is always different as i still live at home with my parents and could range from pasts to steamed fish and cauliflower to roast chicken potatoes and rice.

i try snack on some fruits throughout the day, if we have any fruit around, and drink my 8 glasses of water a day. i drink alot of coffee throughout the day.

i could start my day with a 45min run on an empty stomach and then do weight training later in the day and do that 5days a week. is cardio before weight training better than cardio after weight training.

also, when would you train after taking a dose of clenbuterol, 30min after taking, an hour after training etc.........???????

I would not use clen yet bud. Your diet is really bad and need some serious work. Your training does sound quite dodgy as well, but we can have a look at that after your diet is sorted. To be honest I would get a custom diet and training program from DJ, the guy works wonders with people.

Read this
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Clen is not your solution. You need to fix your bad eating habits which caused you to get so overweight in the first place. Its important to get a healthy eating routine in place BEFORE you consider hardcore fat burners. Otherwise you might lose a few KGs, but will fall back into the same bad routine. Gymming does not make you thin boet. Eating right does. Also, eating healthy but too much will also make you fat unless you are burning the calories.

Those links iMan suggested are a great place to start. Work out how many calories you need per day to lose weight first.

thanks guys i will start eating right and changing my habits

Hey bro! Nice to have you on board. To answer your question:
Firstly you need to sort out your diet. Clen produces amazing results but only when your foundation (diet, training, etc) is solid. First read up in the articles section of this site about the basics of clen. Here are some extra things I can add about Clen:

Take Clen once a day in the mornings, or no later than 4pm if you want to sleep that night.
Wait at least two hours after taking clen before training.
Clen basically works with cardio, so be sure to get LOTS of cardio in your routine while on Clen (at least 5 times a week).
Cardio should be moderate cardio only (i.e done at a heart rate of 65-75% of your maximum heart rate. To calculate your max heart rate, take 220bpm and minus your age from it. Then multiply with 65% and 75% to get your two boundary figures where your heart rate should lie.
An easy way to get your heart rate at any given instant is to put your index and middle finger on your corroted artery and count the number of beats in 15 seconds. Multiply this by 4 to get to beats per minute.
Clen down regulates your beta-2 receptors. Take 15ml ketotifen or betasleep every night with Clen to upregulate your beta receptors.
Your Clen cycle should be at least 3 weeks and i.m.o not longer than 12 weeks. I normally do 6 week Clen cycles.
Clen needs to be tapered up. If this is your first cycle, then start with 40mcg and increase the dosage by 20 mcg every 4 days, until you reach a max of 120 mcg. DO NOT use more than 120mcg as there is a distinct possibility that you could die of heart failure or do permanent damage to your heart.
There is no need to taper down on Clen. I.e when you are on your last day at 120mcg, you can just stop taking it when you are done.
Allow your body and your heart decent rest time between cycles. At the very least time off = duration of cycle.
I have not done this yet but most people on the site will tell you that Clen combines very well with yohimbe. And if you think of combining Clen with T3, make sure that you do your research thoroughly on T3 before you even consider it.
Clen works with pretty much any diet.
Remember that if you experience side effects like shaky hands, a little bit of heart palpitations, and get tired quickly from little things like walking and just have the ritteltits, then that is a direct indication that the Clen is working.
It is perfectly safe to take your normal supps and vitamins and all that with Clen, except things that directly affect your heart or caffeine.
When taking Clen and supplementing with Creatine, you will quite likely experience bone-crunching cramps due to a shift in your electrolyte balance. We combat this by drinking electrolyte supps, and by supplementing with Taurine at 3g a day. I split the dose and take 2g in the morning and 1g at night.

NB!! Some Clen DON'TS!
DO NOT exceed a dosage of 120mcg under any circumstances.
DO NOT inject Clen anywhere other than suitable subcatenous spots. I.m.o it is better to stick with orals.
If you are training and you feel your heart is going nuts, DO NOT stick through it. Rather rest until your heart settles down and continue when it is safe.
DO NOT use ephedrine or heat or any other fat burners that affect your heart while on Clen. Don't do it dude!
DO NOT use Clen if you have heart problems.
DO NOT use heavy caffeine supps while on Clen. Try to limit caffeine intake to say one or two cups of coffee a day not more.
DO NOT exceed a heart rate of 75% of your maximum heart rate, and by extension DO NOT do high intensity interval training (HIIT) cardio.

In conclusion, Clen is an amazing compound that is perfectly safe when used correctly and with the right foundation in place. If you are disciplined with your diet and training and stick to your cardio, you can expect to lose anywhere between 0.5 to 3kgs of fat per week, depending on how well your body takes to the Clen. That being said, Clen is to be respected at all times and i.m.o is the most dangerous illegal substance to abuse. Heroine abuse gives you a couple of years, but Clen abuse is the same as playing russian roulette on a daily basis.

Hi guys

My wife and i are on a clen/yohimbe cycle at the moment. Our diets are clean measured portions, weight training 5 days a week with 30 min cardio after 3 days a week, I site inject around the tummy 1.0ml morning and 30 mins before gym, wife is on half that dose and also on anavar, i am also running 25mg Winny ED an hour before training. We have both lost 3kg since Monday. Gonna run it 2 weeks on 2 weeks off. There is noticeable fat loss around the tummy and around the wife's butt.

Don't know if this usefull info

What i learned on this forum first is.

1. Your diet is the key. Get the right people to do your diet. I thought my diet was "ok" but then it appeared my diet was crapy. so your diet might be ok for you, but in the eye of people who have been involved in weighloss and related matter, they will tell you your diet is not okay. you need certain amounts of proteins, carbs, fats, etc. So its not so easy. And then you should alos not starve urself.. so First, get ur diet in place.

2. Ur training.. Make sure that you lift heavy enough and ur cardio is right. Coz the heavier you lift, the more cals ur burn.. (atleast thats what i learned);

3. If you have these 2 right, then you know ur on ur way, then u can add clen and the rest. Because you wont know ur diet is right if you just start using clen and other fat burners.

Talking about people that use clen and Yohim together. Do they take it in one serving or the Yohim in the morning before cardio and then the clen aftyerwards? I'm combining my HEAT and LP yohim. My max heart rate is 195 bpm and it went up to 210 bpm! Crazy i tell you. Luckily i'm quite fit with resting heart rate @ 44 bpm.I try and keep it max 180- 190. I do 10 min of intervals in the morning, rest 5 min, and then 30-40min steady state cardio with my heart rate @ 128-136 bpm.

I take clen and yohimbine together, 10mg of oraltec yohimbine with 120mcg of clen in the morning, and then another 10mg of yohimbine later on in the afternoon.

Megusta wrote: Talking about people that use clen and Yohim together. Do they take it in one serving or the Yohim in the morning before cardio and then the clen aftyerwards? I'm combining my HEAT and LP yohim. My max heart rate is 195 bpm and it went up to 210 bpm! Crazy i tell you. Luckily i'm quite fit with resting heart rate @ 44 bpm.I try and keep it max 180- 190. I do 10 min of intervals in the morning, rest 5 min, and then 30-40min steady state cardio with my heart rate @ 128-136 bpm.

Do you know how dangerous it is to have a heart rate that high?!! I wish it was something we could make a joke about but it won't be so funny when you are in I.C.U with permanent heart damage or worse.

Slagenlag01 wrote: What i learned on this forum first is.

1. Your diet is the key. Get the right people to do your diet. I thought my diet was "ok" but then it appeared my diet was crapy. so your diet might be ok for you, but in the eye of people who have been involved in weighloss and related matter, they will tell you your diet is not okay. you need certain amounts of proteins, carbs, fats, etc. So its not so easy. And then you should alos not starve urself.. so First, get ur diet in place.

2. Ur training.. Make sure that you lift heavy enough and ur cardio is right. Coz the heavier you lift, the more cals ur burn.. (atleast thats what i learned);

3. If you have these 2 right, then you know ur on ur way, then u can add clen and the rest. Because you wont know ur diet is right if you just start using clen and other fat burners.

You are learning well bro +1 from my side

So the best thing to do on clen is to bring down workout intensity? Longer rests between sets?

YES!!! Only do moderate intensity cardio while on Clen bro!

Edit: Sorry if I come across very strongly bud but it really is THAT serious.

@pyroclasm - shot for the info pyro. Will the efficacy of clen be any better if you split the dose into 2 or 3 per day. Like 40,40,04 for instance?

It's not better to split dosage, just do the dosage in the morning

Pleasure bro! The half life of Clen is 36 hours so you will only need to take it once a day. Also Clen will make it difficult to sleep if you take it too close to bed time so take it once a day in the mornings or latest in the afternoon.

Hey Pyroclasm,

thanks for all the info... not sure if you know or heard of the brand keifei? Also bought Clenbuteric from them 40mg tablets - sh*t product? And if the maximum dosage of clen is 120mcg, how much of the 40mg tablets are safe to use?

thanks for the help man!

Hi bud welcome to the forum! The problem with Kefei and Nomad in particular is that they are faked more often than not. I.m.o this makes it not worth it at all. And even when you have a legitimate product they also like to cut corners by underdosing their products. So to put it bluntly- diarrhoea is a better word. Clenbuterol only comes in mcg dosages not in mg's- that was just a typo in the thread. I am not sure what you mean in your last sentence? 120/40=3 tabs per day is all I can come up with? Haha!

thanks man! The bottle of clenbuterol actually state 40mg instead of 40mcg, thats why i asked. Well i already bought it so might as well use it...right? lol
thanks very much for your help man! Now to get back in shape and stick to my diet... think that's the hardest part! ps: also bought stanzonolol from the same supplier - also keifei

Pleasure bud. That "I have it so I might as well use it" philosophy is quite terrible! You use it when you have the knowledge (and therefore the power) to use it. Health is always our our first priority, not saving a couple of bucks. If you use it correctly you will get much more out of it anyway..

Hi Guys been reading this thread as I am starting some clen myself soon want to stack it with some ECA something like heat. A friend can get a ECA stack with yohimbe in as well would this be better? What I would like to know is it better to run the clen for 2 weeks then the ECA for 2 weeks and cycle them back and forth like that for around 8 weeks. Or is it better to do 2 days clen 2 days ECA? My friend reckons 4 days clen then 4 days ECA what about that combo? so many ways to cycle these two compounds getting myself confused :S Also which way of cycling them would require betasleep or that other one you guys were talikng about that keeps the recepotors fresh I have read somewere on the forum its called adco zetofen syrup or ketofin I presime they all do the same thing? you feedback would be realy great. @ pyroclasm you look like you know what your talking about some feedback from you would be really helpfull thanks.

Don't run EC stacks and Clen at the same time, if you want to cycle between the two, do so 2 weeks at a time one at a time - tapering up and down on each chemical. If you want to run yohimbe with either of those, don't take them at the same time, rather space dosings 2 hours apart. Drink plenty water and be preparred to sweat like a hambeast.

Hi Furk dont plan on running the 2 together I know that is bad. wanted to know weather to cycle the 2 product 2 weeks on 2 weeks off or 2 days on 2 days off?