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31 Jan 2012 14:45 #90568 by AAS
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Should have created this topic along time ago, anyway I have a pretty bad case of Insomnia. What drugs do you guys have good experience with for sleeping. I am currently taking a combination of Halcion (0.125mg) and Zolpidem (10mg) with good result but I am becoming tolerant of them so I have to switch it up, just wanted some opinions on here before I go to my doctor. Also any general sleep advice would be much appreciated

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31 Jan 2012 14:47 #90570 by Mr_SA
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Somnil wotrks like a charm for me... and dont feel drowsy or anything when i wake up...

Give it a shot, you're only TESTing it...

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31 Jan 2012 14:50 #90572 by Etwa
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have you tried taking 5g of GABA before bed? works like a charm with me!

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31 Jan 2012 14:51 #90575 by AAS
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Mr_SA wrote: Somnil wotrks like a charm for me... and dont feel drowsy or anything when i wake up...


Thanks for the input bud but OTC wont do anything to me :(

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31 Jan 2012 14:52 #90578 by WannaGetBig2012
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AAS wrote: Should have created this topic along time ago, anyway I have a pretty bad case of Insomnia. What drugs do you guys have good experience with for sleeping. I am currently taking a combination of Halcion (0.125mg) and Zolpidem (10mg) with good result but I am becoming tolerant of them so I have to switch it up, just wanted some opinions on here before I go to my doctor. Also any general sleep advice would be much appreciated


some Betasleep perhaps

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31 Jan 2012 15:04 #90586 by AAS
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Etwa wrote: have you tried taking 5g of GABA before bed? works like a charm with me!


Ive tried a lot of natural stuff including GABA didn't work at all. Betasleep just makes me feel tired in the morning. Powerful sedatives are the only thing that work for me

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31 Jan 2012 15:09 #90588 by 00pump
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Hmmm Zopak 1mg, Seroquel 100 mg, Valdoxan 25mg (works well with GABA) or Remeron... Stay away from the zolpidem bro...

Above mentioned stuff is great for long term insomnia... The Remeron will give you a nice appetite too.

I would start on the Remeron and see how that goes, it also works as an anti catabolic agent.

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31 Jan 2012 15:10 #90589 by 00pump
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Also increase cardio in the evenings...

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31 Jan 2012 15:13 #90590 by AAS
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00pump wrote: Hmmm Zopak 1mg, Seroquel 100 mg, Valdoxan 25mg (works well with GABA) or Remeron... Stay away from the zolpidem bro...

Above mentioned stuff is great for long term insomnia... The Remeron will give you a nice appetite too.

I would start on the Remeron and see how that goes, it also works as an anti catabolic agent.


Thanks pump I will defiantly look into this "stack", Is remeron OTC or prescribed? reason you say stay away from the zolpidem?

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31 Jan 2012 15:44 #90593 by STUARTF
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Is the reason for your lack of sleep because 1) your mind is too active and can't "shut off" or 2) Not tired and feel no need to sleep

1)If your mind is too active then maybe try a mild tranquilizer like Tripolene or Seroquel as pump mentioned. This will relax your body and mind and possibly make it easier to fall asleep.

2)If you just aren't tired then a correctly percriped sleeping pill might be an option. You just have to be so careful with scheduled sleeping pills as a lot of them contain sedatives that are highly addictive. I presume Zolpidem and Zolpimed are similar and they are generics for Stilnox which is highly addictive.

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31 Jan 2012 15:48 #90594 by jakes
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I use stillnox. The other crap doesn't work for me.

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31 Jan 2012 15:53 #90595 by INCUBUS
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A bit of action before be is the way to go !!

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31 Jan 2012 16:00 #90596 by 00pump
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AAS wrote:

00pump wrote: Hmmm Zopak 1mg, Seroquel 100 mg, Valdoxan 25mg (works well with GABA) or Remeron... Stay away from the zolpidem bro...

Above mentioned stuff is great for long term insomnia... The Remeron will give you a nice appetite too.

I would start on the Remeron and see how that goes, it also works as an anti catabolic agent.


Thanks pump I will defiantly look into this "stack", Is remeron OTC or prescribed? reason you say stay away from the zolpidem?


Err stack? Are you out of your mind... These are powerful schedule 5 drugs... Start with Remeron, see if it works, if it doesn't try the Seroquel, if that doesn't work move to Valdoxan, or Zopak...

If none of the above work, however I highly doubt that... Then try rivotril 20mg.

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31 Jan 2012 16:23 #90599 by Roidrat07
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Antihistamine!

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31 Jan 2012 16:46 - 31 Jan 2012 16:47 #90603 by LXIX
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I agree with Philip
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31 Jan 2012 18:30 #90612 by AAS
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00pump wrote:

AAS wrote:

00pump wrote: Hmmm Zopak 1mg, Seroquel 100 mg, Valdoxan 25mg (works well with GABA) or Remeron... Stay away from the zolpidem bro...

Above mentioned stuff is great for long term insomnia... The Remeron will give you a nice appetite too.

I would start on the Remeron and see how that goes, it also works as an anti catabolic agent.


Thanks pump I will defiantly look into this "stack", Is remeron OTC or prescribed? reason you say stay away from the zolpidem?


Err stack? Are you out of your mind... These are powerful schedule 5 drugs... Start with Remeron, see if it works, if it doesn't try the Seroquel, if that doesn't work move to Valdoxan, or Zopak...

If none of the above work, however I highly doubt that... Then try rivotril 20mg.


My bad pump, thanks I will go with your suggestion and try remeron. Whats the dosage? Must I use it on its own?

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31 Jan 2012 18:31 #90613 by AAS
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STUARTF wrote: Is the reason for your lack of sleep because 1) your mind is too active and can't "shut off" or 2) Not tired and feel no need to sleep

1)If your mind is too active then maybe try a mild tranquilizer like Tripolene or Seroquel as pump mentioned. This will relax your body and mind and possibly make it easier to fall asleep.

2)If you just aren't tired then a correctly percriped sleeping pill might be an option. You just have to be so careful with scheduled sleeping pills as a lot of them contain sedatives that are highly addictive. I presume Zolpidem and Zolpimed are similar and they are generics for Stilnox which is highly addictive.


Its really a combination of both

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31 Jan 2012 18:32 #90614 by AAS
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jakes wrote: I use stillnox. The other crap doesn't work for me.


Stilnox is Zolpidem, doesn't work on its own for me

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31 Jan 2012 18:39 #90615 by johann83
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I know you are against over the counter stuff,but really try this,if you are taking a pre-workout and you train in the afternoon,drop the pre workout and take 2tabs of Somnil and 5g of HGH550 from USN,really worked wonders for me,I sleep like a baby,no shit feelings in the morning,just try it and let me know.

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31 Jan 2012 18:51 #90617 by AAS
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johann83 wrote: I know you are against over the counter stuff,but really try this,if you are taking a pre-workout and you train in the afternoon,drop the pre workout and take 2tabs of Somnil and 5g of HGH550 from USN,really worked wonders for me,I sleep like a baby,no shit feelings in the morning,just try it and let me know.


Thanks but not a chance i'm buying usn especially something called hgh, who are they trying to fool

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31 Jan 2012 18:56 #90619 by johann83
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I feel the same about them,but believe me I didn't buy it for the HGH name,go check its Gabba,I will never recomend something shit,but this stuff with the Somnill surprised me,I say its worth a try,I mean if you don't sleep your body will not grow so all the rest will be for nothing if you don't get rest.If you are really desperate its worth trying,and you didn't answer,do you take pre-workout and what time?

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31 Jan 2012 19:03 #90620 by 00pump
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Chat to your doctor about what dose of remeron, I prefer not to provide dosages, they will know what to start you on...

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31 Jan 2012 19:08 #90622 by AAS
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johann83 wrote: I feel the same about them,but believe me I didn't buy it for the HGH name,go check its Gabba,I will never recomend something shit,but this stuff with the Somnill surprised me,I say its worth a try,I mean if you don't sleep your body will not grow so all the rest will be for nothing if you don't get rest.If you are really desperate its worth trying,and you didn't answer,do you take pre-workout and what time?


Pre workouts don't work for me so don't take them. Im not really desperate as I have the drugs I need to sleep but they seem to working less and less each night so I need to change. At the end of the day GABA wont get me to sleep but I may try some, I will still need a powerful drug/s to get to sleep though.

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31 Jan 2012 20:45 #90623 by ABC01
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Get yourself some ivedol from the dr (need a script). The only sleeping tablet that does not make me feel like shit the next day. As a matter of fact it makes me feel like a champ. Completely rested. Cant take it continuous for longer than 2 or 3 months cause its slightly addictive. I use it when i am completely buggered and sleeping pattern is bit screwed and night before a race. Go straight to bed after you take it

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31 Jan 2012 20:57 #90624 by AAS
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ABC01 wrote: Get yourself some ivedol from the dr (need a script). The only sleeping tablet that does not make me feel like shit the next day. As a matter of fact it makes me feel like a champ. Completely rested. Cant take it continuous for longer than 2 or 3 months cause its slightly addictive. I use it when i am completely buggered and sleeping pattern is bit screwed and night before a race. Go straight to bed after you take it


Ivedal is Zolpidem :dry:

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