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Michael wrote:

Good reply DJ, how long would you say it would take to drop from 16% to 12% ?

depends bro,diet,cardio,training,chemical usage and genetics all play a major role in this...its like saying how long is a piece of string. if he is say 80kgs at 16% he needs to drop 5kgs, which can take 5 weeks or 15 weeks depending on how he pushes himself and diet and cardio etc, but if he is 120kgs at 16% he has to loose 8kgs which can take 8-18weeks etc... get what i am saying? it also depends on water retention and things such as that...i have guys that drop 4 kgs the first week on diet....thats mostly water... fat should come off at 0.5-1kg a week.

Barbell wrote:
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Like I said in my previous post..."but this can`t be done unless you start eating properly "....

I also advise cardio due to the fact that even though Cat
indicated he wants to bulk it seems his priority is to actually loose the love handles.[/quote]

but by adding in cardio and eating to bulk is not going to get rid of the love handles,eating to maintain and adding in cardio will bring a calorie defecit which will eat in to the fat,eating to cut and adding in cardio will create a bigger defecit and will definantly cut the fat.so even if eating the right type of foods,if u are taking in to much food then u wont get rid of the love handles unless u are doing marathon running to burn those extra calories up but then u wont be adding any muscle to the frame.

thanks DJ, yip I meant if everything is in place, cardio, diet, dedication etc. Don't wanna hijack the thread just curious as i am around the 16-17% mark and need to drop a bit more before my bulking cycle, which i wanna do now.

can take u any where between 6 and 12 weeks. 12 weeks will give u a lot of time to get even below the 12% mark. if u can see visable abs then u are really ready to bulk...cos that will be your guideline,if your abs go away then u need to cut back on certain things...

Thank you, i seem to have the same problem as Catsmasher here, I have very little bf on my arms, legs, back etc. It is the lower belly flab

use arimadex whilst cutting,your lower belly and love handles are generally estrogen related fat paterns,get rid of estrogen and u will be able to burn the fat in those areas with cardio and diet.

NO idea what arimadex is it a steriod?

google dude...

DJ wrote:

Barbell wrote:

Like I said in my previous post..."but this can`t be done unless you start eating properly "....

I also advise cardio due to the fact that even though Cat
indicated he wants to bulk it seems his priority is to actually loose the love handles.[/quote]

but by adding in cardio and eating to bulk is not going to get rid of the love handles,eating to maintain and adding in cardio will bring a calorie defecit which will eat in to the fat,eating to cut and adding in cardio will create a bigger defecit and will definantly cut the fat.so even if eating the right type of foods,if u are taking in to much food then u wont get rid of the love handles unless u are doing marathon running to burn those extra calories up but then u wont be adding any muscle to the frame.[/quote]

I dunno DJ...everywhere I have read on the subject and from personal experience tells me otherwise...

bro its impossible to eat to gain muscle,and do cardio and burn fat and put on mass at the same time... unless u are genetically gifted... look at every single pro, they all eat more to gain more muscle,they dont stay at 2-3% bodyfat and gain muscle now do they?cos its impossible to do that... if u want to grow u need extra calories,if u wanna burn fat u need less calories. so how can u burn fat by eating more calories?its impossible... and for your next trick u can try turn water into wine or part the ocean,its not gonna happen either.

DJ wrote:

bro its impossible to eat to gain muscle,and do cardio and burn fat and put on mass at the same time... unless u are genetically gifted... look at every single pro, they all eat more to gain more muscle,they dont stay at 2-3% bodyfat and gain muscle now do they?cos its impossible to do that... if u want to grow u need extra calories,if u wanna burn fat u need less calories. so how can u burn fat by eating more calories?its impossible... and for your next trick u can try turn water into wine or part the ocean,its not gonna happen either.

How about I bulk and gym for 4 days and cardio and eat less for 3 days :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

DJ wrote:

bro its impossible to eat to gain muscle,and do cardio and burn fat and put on mass at the same time... unless u are genetically gifted... look at every single pro, they all eat more to gain more muscle,they dont stay at 2-3% bodyfat and gain muscle now do they?cos its impossible to do that... if u want to grow u need extra calories,if u wanna burn fat u need less calories. so how can u burn fat by eating more calories?its impossible... and for your next trick u can try turn water into wine or part the ocean,its not gonna happen either.

you haven`t seen me fart in the bath bro..

btw..Im not saying you going to burn fat and be ripped as hell but doing cardio even when bulking is a must even if for minimising the fat gains and for cardio health which in turn helps get better weight workouts....

then u might as well just eat to maintian. 3500calories for 4 days, then 3 days of 2600 calories is gonna give u 2971 calories a day. so u might as well just eat 3000calories and maintian your current weight,

*Apology for hijacking* DJ, did you receive my mail on Monday?

i did,there were no changes that needed to be me made bro... keep at it and u will be fine NB1

Howzit DJ can arimadex be taken even if you not on any cycle and on a good diet only.

DJ is there anything cheaper than arimadex that one can use?

Michael wrote:

DJ is there anything cheaper than arimadex that one can use?

Letro is the cheapest option bud.

hhhm.... I guess so Missiondh, I have heard some scary things about Letro, have you used it with good results?? What about the soldier... I need him to be focused at all time :woohoo:

Michael wrote:

hhhm.... I guess so Missiondh, I have heard some scary things about Letro, have you used it with good results?? What about the soldier... I need him to be focused at all time :woohoo:

cialis

Gearedup, that is fixing a problem that should not have been there in the first place

i wont touch letro, read the horror stories when the guys attempt gyno reversal, kills the sex drive completly.

i wouldnt use letro otherwise i would've told u to use letro instead of arimadex. its too harsh on your joints,your moods and libido and chances of estrogen rebound post use are good... use arimadex on or off cycle if u are trying to cut the fat.when ever there is estrogen around u have a chance of picking up fat on the thighs,love handles belly and inner legs....

Okay DJ you win once again, is there any change that Nolvadex will work?

And at what dosage arimadex per day?

Michael wrote:

hhhm.... I guess so Missiondh, I have heard some scary things about Letro, have you used it with good results?? What about the soldier... I need him to be focused at all time :woohoo:

Let me say it this way, I do da nasty at least twice a day and I have never had any probs when on Letro, I have been on Letro for 10 weeks and I am like a pornstar!