Busting Through A Plateau!

Sweet potato a much better choice as said by Furk. Most braai spices and seasonings have a lot of salt anyway. I enjoy paprika, cayenne pepper or crushed chillies on my chicken

Furk wrote: @KlitKat,
3. Age is 17. Ok just back the fuck up. You just started yet you complain about plateau? You have a lifetime of gains ahead, I promise you. Don't sweat the small stuff now, just get the fundamentals right.
Good luck mate.

"You have a lifetime of gains ahead, I promise you."

Amen to that.

I look at your height and weight (and your age).

Age 17
Weight : 87kgs - 88kgs
Length : 184cm

Not bad. You should feel blessed

A little bit of my own history:

I started training hard at about the same age. I was always active, but skinny, and got teased a lot for being so skinny ... and decided to try natural bodybuilding. That was back in the day that Arnold was still champion.

I was 17, 1.8 m tall, and weighed 64 kgs. Then I went to the army. In the army all I could do was keep active, not much bodybuilding then. I did karate, played tennis, and just kept fit in general.

I left the army at 19, and continued gym training again. It took me 10 years to work myself up to 74 kgs. And then it took me another 10 years to work myself up to 84 kgs. And this is what you weigh now

But I did it, and I was extremely proud of myself for gaining 20 kgs naturally.

You are still very young. And healthy. I think you are doing very well, being 17 and already knowing what you know now.

Keep reading. Keep up the good work, and take these guys' advice, they have a lot of experience and know what they are talking about.

Hey guys, yeah i think ill give sweet potatoes a try, have heard a lot of good things about them. Hi Colt, wow man 20kgs gain naturally, well done man that's really insane! Haha yeah I've done a lot of research this past year and have gained quite a bit of knowledge, most of which from this very site.

I know you guys always going on about being at least 21 years old begore jumping on a cycle, but a lot of my friends at school have been using steroids and have just blown up not knowing fuck all about diet or training let alone steroids. Just want your guys's imput on that, been bothering me for a while now.

Thanks
KlitKat

Do not discuss steroids, in any shape size or form... last warning

I'd advocate 24 years + for gear. Fat burners can be used at a younger age, as long as there is no possibility for developing a dependency.

KlitKit, dude high-school is fresh in my memory and peer-pressure can be a bitch, so I know if I tell you to call those steroids users out and say they screwing up their future, they might take their ignorance out on you. So props for not falling for the steroid trap, I suggest if you have close friends that are using, sit them down and try to convince them you are concerned for their health. Plus the stuff is illegal, so the dealer is a real bastard for selling to teens.

That's my input, try to help out but if you can't save anybody, just keep yourself protected. You've made good gains so far, use the power of your youth to better yourself. Even better, if you've got the "bodybuilder mentality" about bettering yourself, push it even further. Forget about chicks and booze and parties and drugs. That will set you ahead of the rest I promise. Focus on your studies and all your passions that make you a better person.

Rambling a bit much today, sorry if I'm preaching, but you asked so just being honest. Ciao.

00pump man would you rather have i discuss it with a few ignorant uninformed people than with people who know what they are talking about and could give good, quality advice? Not trying to be a dick or anything but dont be so touchy about the subject, discussing it in general is not the same as discussing using it.

Hey Furk, yeah man I've talked with them on numerous occasions but they would never listen. Considering they think a good PCT is a natural test booster i think its already too late. Exactly bro, IMO going out every weekend and getting shit faced drunk is very counter productive towards my goals and also just fucking stupid. I would rather look like a greek god than be able to brag to people about how drunk i got..

How old are you now Furk?

Cheers
KlitKat

1. This section is for 18+ members only

All members on the forum must be at least 18 years old to post anything related to anabolic steroids. This is an attempt to protect the members and integrity of the board. Underaged users are allowed to discuss legal sport supplements and general training questions in the general section of the forum, but any underage users found posting about anabolic steroids will result in a lock or deletion of the thread along with a temporary membership ban for three days on the first offense or a permanent membership ban on recurring violations of this rule.

I'm not breaching forum rules:
(1) I am not giving dangerous information as advice (Rule 4)
(2) I am not advising a minor to use steroids (Rule 1)
(3) Not trying to stir a fight (Rule 10)

IMHO can't we have grace for this topic? I mean it is defence of staying natural, protecting the young against steroids.


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Anyway, while I'm on the soap-box I might as well use it:
Awe Klitkat you are thinking in a mature way and your goals are in the right place. You are ahead of the pack, stay that way mate. I am of age, so I am allowed to discuss steroids, and I will tell you this, steroid cycling at high-school age is bad news in many facets. Especially the popular "D-bol only" cycle. We can't prevent you from educating yourself, in fact I would encourage it. Do a search or browse for "first cycle" type threads, take a look at how members here tear apart guys for doing D-bol only cycles or juicing in their teens.


I am 26. Been 4 years since I've stopped smoking, 3 since stopped drinking, pretty straight-edge in most aspects right now. It sounds very children's church, and I get scoffs sometimes, but it's the most productive way I've found to live. Anyway, when you are done with school you have more liberty choosing those who you surround yourself with, and that action can be very powerful.

If you are interested in my history you can read the tragedy here .

Ok, I've said my bit just in case this thread gets locked. Keep well mate.

KlitKat wrote: 00pump man would you rather have i discuss it with a few ignorant uninformed people than with people who know what they are talking about and could give good, quality advice? Not trying to be a dick or anything but dont be so touchy about the subject, discussing it in general is not the same as discussing using it.

Boetie, you are really pushing your luck. We have rules on this forum for a reason and there's a reason why rule 1 happens to be about our age restrictions. If you are not happy with that then you can go somewhere else. Steroid use in schools are a big concern and not something I condone at all. This forum will not allow minors to discuss steroids or the usage thereof.