PCT for Superdrol

saiman
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26 Jan 2010 09:02 #34449 by saiman

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Hi everyone,

I will be starting a sponsored cynostane log for predator nutrition. The product is a pro-hormone from Anabolic Innovations. Despite being much milder on the liver the compound is very similar to Superdrol or its South African clone Mega Anadrol.

I know that a lot of you guys don't think much of pro hormones but I would appreciate some help regarding the PCT. The cycle will be for 4 weeks and I currently have one box of tamoxifen. I am guessing that taking 20mg for 4 weeks will not be sufficient. What should I stack the tamoxifen with or should I simply order another box and increase the dose?

BTW the compound is 2-cyano-17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-androst-3-one

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26 Jan 2010 09:05 #34450 by BB_guy

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IMO Tamoxifen for 4 weeks is perfect

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26 Jan 2010 09:08 #34451 by saiman

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ok thanks a lot. and do you also think 20/20/20/20 is fine or should i up the dose?

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26 Jan 2010 09:27 #34456 by SNOK1986

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Do 40 mg for the first week than down to 20mg for the remainder.

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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26 Jan 2010 09:38 #34459 by saiman

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Cool thx. Just saw you from Durbs too. Which gym you train at?

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26 Jan 2010 09:44 #34462 by SNOK1986

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Muscle and fitness waterfall

your self?

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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26 Jan 2010 09:51 #34464 by saiman

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hmmm wouldnt even know where that is. Currently Virgin Active Westville. Need to go there cos of my medical aid. Looking for a more serious gym though

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26 Jan 2010 09:59 #34467 by missiondh

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SNOK1986 wrote:

Do 40 mg for the first week than down to 20mg for the remainder.

Rather do 40mg for 4 weeks. No need to pyramid.

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26 Jan 2010 10:02 #34468 by SNOK1986

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true

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08 Feb 2010 14:11 #35452 by saiman

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hey missiondh. Was wondering if you ever had an prolactin issue with Superdrol compounds. Been doing some research but lot of different opinions. Some say the delayed Superdrol gyno is due to sloppy PCT, some say the Nolva can cause it

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08 Feb 2010 14:32 #35457 by 00pump

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Despite the fact that methyldrostanolone is a DHT derivative and cannot convert to estrogen, some users have still reported gyno like symptoms during or after a cycle. This effect is likely related to the strong SHBG binding effect and increase in freely circulating estrogen (and testosterone) from SHBG. Gyno symptoms may also be related to the fact that methldrostanolone lacks a strong DHT metabolite to antagonize the effects of estrogen (while also having a relatively low intrinsic androgenic value).

Masteron also is used to treat patients with gyno and can be used as an AI... I don't believe the gyno comes from the cycle but more from other drugs used with the cycle. I just look at a bottle of test and I get gyno, I have never had 1 bit of gyno related sides with Masteron... And it used to be used to treat cancer stacking it with Tamoxifen so I have no idea how nolva can cause the gyno.

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08 Feb 2010 14:37 #35460 by saiman

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I am not saying that it does but just sharing what some people report. Didn't express myself well, they say that the prolactin based delayed gyno can get worse from using Nolva.

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08 Feb 2010 14:40 #35463 by 00pump

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many people believe prolactin based gyno can cause more problems with kessar. we have had this debate before, Inja can share some more light on this...

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08 Feb 2010 14:48 #35469 by saiman

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ok thats some good info. Karma for you. So you recommend to treat Sdrol with a standard protocol (during & post)? Do you have a link to the prolactin discussion?

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09 Feb 2010 00:48 #35586 by Inja

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The dicussion was predominantly around whether tamoxifen was a poor choice after a 19-nor cycle because of a paper pointing to upregulation of the progesterone receptor by the SERM tamoxifen. This activity is one of estrogen agonism. In the end we agreed to disagree.
www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/5-post-...ith-the-clomid#21774

Sorry if I offend you
Its just my point of view

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09 Feb 2010 07:46 #35589 by 00pump

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Still if you speaking about Masteron it was a medical choice to use Masteron with Nolva to treat breast cancer.

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09 Feb 2010 09:21 #35598 by saiman

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@Pump you are right about Masteron being used to with Nolva for Prolactin/Progesterone issues. But I think Superdrol (even though being methylated Masteron) acts quite different to Masteron. It has modified the structure of Masterone by adding another methyl group at the 17th position, like M1T. Additionally, Superdrol is super-saturated, or 2-reduced, form of Anadrol. Anyways, the point of all this is that I am wondering about the best way to prevent the infamous "delayed Sdrol gyno" I am a firm believer in Nolva but I think it may not be sufficient. What should I add during or post cycle?

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09 Feb 2010 09:49 #35601 by 00pump

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intresting, thanks for the update... I guess its the same argument people have with Anadrol its a derivative of DHT yet people are suffering from gyno, maybe as stated in my first post...

"Despite the fact that methyldrostanolone is a DHT derivative and cannot convert to estrogen, some users have still reported gyno like symptoms during or after a cycle. This effect is likely related to the strong SHBG binding effect and increase in freely circulating estrogen (and testosterone) from SHBG. Gyno symptoms may also be related to the fact that methldrostanolone lacks a strong DHT metabolite to antagonize the effects of estrogen (while also having a relatively low intrinsic androgenic value)."

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09 Feb 2010 09:49 #35602 by 00pump

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I also don't see how gyno can be anything other than *estrogen related.. so I don't see how some or other AI would not work?

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09 Feb 2010 21:39 #35715 by solvtech

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My wife was reading this thread and she say u guyz must look at bromocriptine or Vitamine B-6

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10 Feb 2010 07:22 #35721 by 00pump

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B6 can never be strong enough and bromo has way to many side effects, explosions in your head and just wanting to be sick all the time are just a few. I don't believe you will suffer from any prolactin increase from superdrol, rather go do the blood work before you play the guessing game. Remeber the major issue with any Dopamine inhibitory is it also inhibits hGH.

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10 Feb 2010 08:30 #35731 by saiman

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hundred percent pump. I have spoken to a few people and most say that if at all B6 only helps in super-high doses...and these can be quite toxic.
I still guess that those that actually got gyno from Sdrol didn't follow through with their PCT properly or are getting it because it is their second cycle and they were sloppy with PCT in the first one.

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10 Feb 2010 19:25 #35830 by solvtech

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read the same thing that saiman said the slacked pct due to studies and little sleep the guy used a combo nolva and atd and said it helped

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10 Feb 2010 19:32 #35833 by SNOK1986

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saiman wrote:

hmmm wouldnt even know where that is. Currently Virgin Active Westville. Need to go there cos of my medical aid. Looking for a more serious gym though

How can u not know where muscle and fitness waterfall is? its like the best gym in KZN!!!! HAHAHAHAHA kiddin... i rather have no one know where it is, i can at least get to a bench on a monday evening unlike some places westville VA AHHAAHH

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10 Feb 2010 20:35 #35848 by saiman

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Yes VA sucks big time. They greedy and only interested in signing up people that get excited about their ab classes. Their staff has nothing to do with health. You see everything from morbidly obese to anorexic. They only know how to sign you up and show you the threadmill. Anyways, may this gym of yours be near hillcrest

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