PGW vs NOMAD

Robin Hood wrote:

Deadgoat wrote:

Robin Hood wrote: I heard from a very reliable pharmacist, that sometimes the juice you get from suppliers (black market) is not really ALL fakes, its just that sometimes the guys have to be SO careful of getting busted, that the "juice" actually gets exposed to a lot of different "heat circumstances", thereby actually LOOSING it's "potency"

lol that makes NO sense. So they have legit stuff, but they are so scared of getting busted that they effectively dilute it? If their stuff is in a positiion that they risk getting caught (i.e. through customs at the airport) how on earth will diluting the product reduce the chances of them getting busted? :huh:

Buddy your "pharmacist" is an absolute legend :lol: :lol:

@Admin
What happened to my reply here? I just do a "quick" reply then --->
I was referring to the HEAT changes that effects the juice...not diluting it.

Don't know. I didn't do anything...

I removed the post because it was reckless.. think next time before you post something

admin wrote: I've noticed a strange misconception the last couple of weeks; some guys associate side-effects with the brand. Some emails I've received are from guys claiming that PGW is not as good as nomad because they have more side-effects while using PGW. Let me make this clear, side-effects happen as a result of the compound aromatising and the higher the dosage you take the worse it will become. If you miraculously stop experiencing side-effects from a brand like Nomad then it's simply because the product is under-dosed or there is some other problem.

I have to agree here...I'm LIVING PROOF! thx Admin

00pump wrote: I removed the post because it was reckless.. think next time before you post something

...sorry 00pump, wasn't my attention. just wanted to make clear i was merely talking about TEMP CHANGES...and NOT "manipulating" the juice in any way...I think the member just misunderstood what i was trying to say...

I am refering to the way in which you obtain gear. That is reckless to post

00pump wrote: I am refering to the way in which you obtain gear. That is reckless to post

...no prob...my appologies

There is better gear then PGW, but as soon as you name them on this site you are advertising. Only Liquid Phama and PGW my be advirtised on this site for some very strange resone????????????? Double standerds if you ask me.

Supercharged wrote: There is better gear then PGW, but as soon as you name them on this site you are advertising. Only Liquid Phama and PGW my be advirtised on this site for some very strange resone????????????? Double standerds if you ask me.

Well you have been raving about Dragon Pharma and Diamond Pharma, but have you been banned? No!

If anyone comes here with 1 or 2 posts and states how good this or that brand is he will be banned, because it's clear what his motive is.

I make the rules here and there are many other places people can go advertise their shit, but not here. PGW helped start this site and I use their stuff that's why I'm based toward them. LP followed 2 years later by also supporting this site. I contacted many local labs in 2006 and asked for help, but only PGW were supportive by sending photo samples ect. some of the others replied that I'm wasting my time... well they are singing a different story now.

Supercharged, i am no way affiliated to pgw other than being a customer of theirs, now in the past before i found pgw i have used,RWR(great products,but i am not gonna pay the price of shooting 7mls of equipoise to get 350mg) nomad(40mls of their winstrol in 6 weeks without a single joint ache and pretty much minimal results out of their deca i used) the Russian Arl deca(NPP actually,it worked but left a taste in your mouth) and then deca sust amps(worked but the price to get decent dosages ends up being high) and then i tried pgw...and for the price,the dosages,the results,the quality of service i will not look for another brand again...hence the reason my vote goes with them...i feel no need to try axio,the price for the product isnt even worth my consideration,and i know that i am getting quality when i buy pgw so i am happy with the brand i use,why must i look else where?

Supercharged, it seems like you have an issue with anything local??

Possibly you should delete your account here and stick with your international boards.

Your last few posts have been about PGW being shit?? Its very unfortunate that you "Didn't experience the gains you were expecting", but then again, what were you expecting??

Everyone seems to be well satisfied with the service delivery, quality and competitive pricing, yet you feel the need to Slander what you know nothing about.

Possibly cut the reci drug habit, eat and train properly and you'll be satisfied.

Let me add my 2c worth if I may.

I've used a whole range of gear in my life and without being bias I found that PGW is best if you take all the factors into account, price, performance, availability, quality and various other factors.

If you believe one brand is better than the other then you're more than welcome to use it and also discuss it but you must be aware that many of the members here are converted PGW users that probably used other brands before.

Im also starting to have enough of his comments. Ive askes for bloods showing me it is not working.

...although i have absolutely NO knowledge of PGW...somehow the poster's answers just makes sense. I think if you're a RICH fella, then maybe something else, but for the majority of SA's? ...PGW sounds the way to go

Robin hood, how many other companies would u see the owners coming on a board to back their brand???? nomad?? please hell no...dragon pharma? less chance.... so u gotta take that as a good stand point that people are happy to see that the owner of the brand is willing to take on issues/claims for and against their products makes me support them even more...

how many other companies would u see the owners coming on a board to back their brand???? nomad?? please hell no...dragon pharma? less chance.... so u gotta take that as a good stand point that people are happy to see that the owner of the brand is willing to take on issues/claims for and against their products makes me support them even more...[/quote]

I think i should go and work for him I might just get some free quality gear.

If PGW or LP were in anyway shit, the boards would be screaming about it. The quality for the price cannot be beaten. Simple.
Just about every single person here raves about both of them, there has to be a reason for that. Not even worth further discussion really.

shaunrsa wrote: If PGW or LP were in anyway shit, the boards would be screaming about it. The quality for the price cannot be beaten. Simple.
Just about every single person here raves about both of them, there has to be a reason for that. Not even worth further discussion really.

Very true...that's why i havnt ANY doubt about PGW...Thanks to all the folks here guiding me in the right direction

Precision
I have never said that PGW or LP is shit, go check out all my posts and you will see for yourself

00pump
You previosly said that you have blood test proof of Nomad gear,where I said that you must post the tests and I will post the tests I had done, I am actuly waiting for you to post your tests first.

Look I am not trying to put PGW in a bad light at all, it is very good gear, defenetly the best SA UGL gear at the moment.

Admin
Thanks for the -100 karma at least I have the highist negitive Karma on this site.

Supercharged wrote: Admin
Thanks for the -100 karma at least I have the highist negitive Karma on this site.

I never touched your karma. I have better things to do than playing around with your profile. The only way someone managed to do that is to keep clicking -1

Supercharged wrote: Precision
I have never said that PGW or LP is shit, go check out all my posts and you will see for yourself

00pump
You previosly said that you have blood test proof of Nomad gear,where I said that you must post the tests and I will post the tests I had done, I am actuly waiting for you to post your tests first.

Look I am not trying to put PGW in a bad light at all, it is very good gear, defenetly the best SA UGL gear at the moment.

I never said I had blood tests of Nomad, I did say however Nomad works and I have blood tests done while on PGW, which i'm sure majority of the site has. This is not a dick measuring contest. I simply asked you to please provide your Lab test to us showing us your bloods while on a PGW cycle.

I have spent many hours helping you when you had problems with health, etc. Honestly, just get off my back now. I am a client of PGW not in any way, try market their product because I work for them. I don't get anything out of it, except I am passionate about bodybuilding and this has been my life for the past 10+ years... I have a few friends over 140kgs, one of them closer to 150kgs and is now using PGW, why is he using it? He has used gear for 20+ years, he has used nearly every single lab possible during that time, and he is blown by PGW and LP...

All I am asking you to stop doing is saying there is better gear than PGW and LP... If you want to make proof to this, inject 250mg of PGW Cyp, go for bloods, then take Pharma grade depo and match the MG and go for bloods, and show me PGW does not work as well.

What I'm trying to say is quite clear, if your diet and lifestyle is not perfect or even psychological issues, depression, etc. Your cycle will not work as well. The next time you run PGW or LP down, you banned unless you prove to me what you are saying is true.. If you come back with blood tests showing us it is not working, then I am pretty sure PGW will look into it further.

I have using steroids a very long time and I just want to comment on your original PGW vs Nomad question. First of all I like to give all brands a try to form comparisons as to what works for me and what doesn't. I like to follow the general opinions from other steroid users when new products/brands come out as to what to try next. I am always objective and will only slate a brand if there is good reason for it.
A few years ago there was a sudden Nomad craze and all I could get from my supplier was Nomad. I had been using a brand called QV (Quality Vet) a long time before that and was really disappointed that it had been discontinued as it was a superb brand. I ended up doing a big cycle of Nomad Test Prop and Nomad Winstrol, and paid a lot of money for it. I started off injecting the prop in my one cheek, and the winstrol in the other. It was very painful from the get go, but thought it would subside. 3 days later my ass was so sore I could hardly walk, but decided to carry on with the injections. It got worse and worse, I had to even sleep on my stomach to avoid the matress touching my rear. Eventually it became unbearable so I decided to chuck the prop, wasting all that money and drink the winstrol. Then to top it all off, I developed an absess in my glute from the toxic shit. Couldn't sit down for a week and eventually had to get it drained. That was my Nomad experience and let me mention that the winstrol that I drank for almost 15 weeks, did fok all except make me feel sick.

I have recently discovered PGW and I am very impressed with all aspects of the brand. I have gotten really good results from all of my favourite compounds and it is honestly a quality brand. I have been using Global Anabolics for years which is also top notch but can safely say that PGW does have the edge and I am converted. Big up to the guys at PGW.

Deadgoat wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:
I heard from a very reliable pharmacist, that sometimes the juice you get from suppliers (black market) is not really ALL fakes, its just that sometimes the guys have to be SO careful of getting busted, that the "juice" actually gets exposed to a lot of different "heat circumstances", thereby actually LOOSING it's "potency"


lol that makes NO sense. So they have legit stuff, but they are so scared of getting busted that they effectively dilute it? If their stuff is in a positiion that they risk getting caught (i.e. through customs at the airport) how on earth will diluting the product reduce the chances of them getting busted?

Buddy your "pharmacist" is an absolute legend

@Admin
What happened to my reply here? I just do a "quick" reply then --->
I was referring to the HEAT changes that effects the juice...not diluting it.



is this the very reliable pharmacist from joburg who has hair growing out his ears?
if it is i would not listen,he is old school,i think old school as in before they knew about pct,told me to doa first coarse of d-bol,deca and test e,pct was nicely and beautifully structed,he said for pct take a couple of nolva for a few weeks then if ur still not right klap some a-dex....thank god this site exists

STUARTF wrote: I have using steroids a very long time and I just want to comment on your original PGW vs Nomad question. First of all I like to give all brands a try to form comparisons as to what works for me and what doesn't. I like to follow the general opinions from other steroid users when new products/brands come out as to what to try next. I am always objective and will only slate a brand if there is good reason for it.
A few years ago there was a sudden Nomad craze and all I could get from my supplier was Nomad. I had been using a brand called QV (Quality Vet) a long time before that and was really disappointed that it had been discontinued as it was a superb brand. I ended up doing a big cycle of Nomad Test Prop and Nomad Winstrol, and paid a lot of money for it. I started off injecting the prop in my one cheek, and the winstrol in the other. It was very painful from the get go, but thought it would subside. 3 days later my ass was so sore I could hardly walk, but decided to carry on with the injections. It got worse and worse, I had to even sleep on my stomach to avoid the matress touching my rear. Eventually it became unbearable so I decided to chuck the prop, wasting all that money and drink the winstrol. Then to top it all off, I developed an absess in my glute from the toxic shit. Couldn't sit down for a week and eventually had to get it drained. That was my Nomad experience and let me mention that the winstrol that I drank for almost 15 weeks, did fok all except make me feel sick.

I have recently discovered PGW and I am very impressed with all aspects of the brand. I have gotten really good results from all of my favourite compounds and it is honestly a quality brand. I have been using Global Anabolics for years which is also top notch but can safely say that PGW does have the edge and I am converted. Big up to the guys at PGW.

Bwhaa haa haa...Sorry StuartF, but i like the way you put your "experience"

Something i have noticed about NOMAD as well...Dunno if my eyes are not 100% or what, but on 2 cycles, i have noted that the 10ml vials (Deca, Cyp and Combo) is in fact LESS than 10ml. Anyone else experienced this?