Rich Piana 3 month 30lbs program

Not using Excel? What a pleb. When he refers to 1/2 or 3/4, is that fractions of 1cc? I don't see Tren anywhere.

Bud in wk 9 he drops the deca and puts tren e in.

lobo wrote: Bud in wk 9 he drops the deca and puts tren e in.

Thanks Eagle Eyes, I just quickly scanned through, it goes onto a second picture where he also uses primo, drops the A-bombs for Var and uses Test Prop. Interesting. Looks juicy as hell.

Haha Furk, im interested to see what the mods make of the cycle I see he runs primo for only 2 weeks and tren e for 6 would of thought that was a bit short for them.

Are A-bombs anadrol?

Yes; aka Anapolon.

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The statement of Dave NOT being a bodybuilder.... How do you get that?
What do you class as a bodybuilder then?

Furk wrote: Richard Xylophone, Rick Rihanna, Rich Piranha, Affluent Harpsichord, 5% Natural 95% Synthol, however he is made fun of, he is actually really grounded, down-to-earth and a lot more savvy than his videos make him to seem. And props, he has a good shape, that waist to shoulder ratio without that bubble-gut most pro's at the Olympia can't avoid.


By the way, Dave Crossland did the steroids journey thing first. He self documented his journey on YouTube to pack on as much muscle as humanly possible. Disclosing training, eating and drug usage. He isn't a body-builder by strict definition and is far from aesthetic. Anyway, there was a documentary made about it called Under Construction , was interesting to watch.

Bud, I can tell you one thing. Two of SA's own IFBB Pro's (that I know of) reccomends 2500iu HCG per week....

Pyroclasm wrote:

Lex wrote: Pyro enlighten me ? How is rich a joke ?

Firstly... The dude suggests 2500-5000iu HCG per week where science has proven that those dosages actually desensitize the HPTA. But yeah he must be right cause look how big he is. :lol:

Well in that case it must be very correct! Imagine how much more correct it would be if another 2 say so.

Pyroclasm wrote: Well in that case it must be very correct! Imagine how much more correct it would be if another 2 say so.

My point exactly.

Pyro, I think you have to express yourself otherwise. The sarcasm was lost.....

BeastGP wrote: The statement of Dave NOT being a bodybuilder.... How do you get that?
What do you class as a bodybuilder then?

I mean in the traditional sense, build as much mass as possible, whilst staying lean. Dave Crossland is a colossal of a man, but he is simply just not aiming for aesthetics. He is far overweight.

Furk wrote: Pyro, I think you have to express yourself otherwise. The sarcasm was lost.....

The thing about mastering sarcasm is that you get to insult someone without them realising it. Since hitting people is illegal, this is my shield.

Pyrogasm hahahaha!

:lol: Pyro :lol:

Bud, I can tell you one thing. Two of SA's own IFBB Pro's (that I know of) reccomends 2500iu HCG per week....

Many of us know pros, some local, some international. I know a few pros very well, to name one, Jay. Even pros do dumb shit and they learn as they get better and as they or their coaches figure out their bodies. Maybe one of the reasons those SA pros arent top 5 in the world is because they (or their coaches as they usually have coaches) recommend 2500iu of HCG per week. Thousands or even millions have used HCG and eventually a general guideline was put out there for people to follow and then adjust accordingly, those pros may either be dumb, it could be the right dosage for them or they are trying to figure out what their body handles best.

I like Rich in small doses... Watching too much of his stuff makes me annoyed. He gives some weird advice, that 8hr 8 protein shake workout is an example and he definitely emphasizes almost everything he says except for maybe dosages, to prevent people being dumb, so he may just tell the truth with those.

He's gonna be posting vids on the daily to keep people in the know throughout the cycle about everything he does. Keen to follow ...

PumpSeeker, have you watched that vid? Listening to it in the background now while I do some work. His reasoning as usual is a bit jumbled, I doubt the seniors on the board will back his logic, but it makes me keen to follow his progress. Also, I don't see an other peptides other than GH, interesting since he can literally use whatever his heart desires.

Hmm, so instead of the continuous and stable 1cc 3 times a week, you do 3cc once a week.

You won't have stable levels of those substances throughout your blood then doing it his way - isn't that one of the things we want to try and aim for and achieve? More stable levels? Hence why it is recommended to pin 250mg twice a week as opposed to 500mg once a week when it comes to test cyp?

Would it actually provide more growth? Sure the concentration and peak will be greater but muscle takes time to build...


Also HGH working in the spot you inject it? That being the reason you get turtle gut? :dry:

Ya I saw it, his reasoning does seem that way :lol: . I think he doesn't have too much knowledge of peptides and I suppose he stays away from that side of the fence due to his phobia of gh gut.
Psy: Being natty, I don't have 1st hand experience but from Rich's reasoning I see what he means whereby the body gets used to things. So even though 1cc 3x/week may be more effective, the body adapts and the effects are maybe slightly blunted? So he tries to gain more effectiveness without raising dosages/week.

PS : Does he realise that his pecs jump every 3 seconds?? :lol:

Im amped for this journey and learning curve with rich keen to see what he looks like at 335 pounds. Like he says 'lets do this'

Furk wrote: Pyro, I think you have to express yourself otherwise. The sarcasm was lost.....

Lost?...... And you didn't think by any chance that I was not being sarcastic hey? :whistle:

Hormonas wrote: :lol: Pyro :lol:

Bud, I can tell you one thing. Two of SA's own IFBB Pro's (that I know of) reccomends 2500iu HCG per week....

Many of us know pros, some local, some international. I know a few pros very well, to name one, Jay. Even pros do dumb shit and they learn as they get better and as they or their coaches figure out their bodies. Maybe one of the reasons those SA pros arent top 5 in the world is because they (or their coaches as they usually have coaches) recommend 2500iu of HCG per week. Thousands or even millions have used HCG and eventually a general guideline was put out there for people to follow and then adjust accordingly, those pros may either be dumb, it could be the right dosage for them or they are trying to figure out what their body handles best.

I like Rich in small doses... Watching too much of his stuff makes me annoyed. He gives some weird advice, that 8hr 8 protein shake workout is an example and he definitely emphasizes almost everything he says except for maybe dosages, to prevent people being dumb, so he may just tell the truth with those.

I agree with you.... Every person is different, so saying that 2500iu per week won't work is BS! Coz for some guys out there it will work. You just have to find out what works for you. It's like saying 500mg of Test Enanthate will work the same for everyone..... It's like saying you have to use strict form for maximum gains... Every person is different and respond different. That was all I was getting at.

If we follow that logic, then if an SA bodybuilder suggests to a newbie to take 1.5g Test per week is also okay. Yes sure it doesn't work for everyone, but there is one guy there somewhere who will benefit greatly from this advice. The message I want to get across is that you have to be extremely careful with the advice you give and make sure that the advice you give has the highest probability of succeeding. This is why I have such a problem with Dick Piana- his advice is dangerous and in most cases that dosage of HCG will in fact desensitize the testes. That's not my opinion, that comes from a recent double-blind placebo controlled study whose method of study was spot on. Don't ever take advice from someone just because they are big or a famous BB. Some of the crap they spread makes me cringe. That first sentence really happened btw.