Thoughts on this Cutting cycle

Hi guys

Say my stats are:

Height: 176cm
Weight: 83-85kg
BF%: 10-11%
Age:27

Will this Beginner Cutting Cycle be appropriate? Using Test as the basis

Week 1-10: 150mg Test Prop
Week 1-14: 0.25mg Arimidex
Week 5-10: 50mg Winstrol
Week 1-14: Milk Thistles

One week off

PCT
Week 11: 300mg Clomid
Week 12: 200mg Clomid
Week 13: 100mg Clomid
Week 14: 50mg Clomid

Week 11-12: 40mg Nolvadex
Week 13-14: 20mg Nolvadex



Any comments? Much appreciated

3 x Half-Life = Time to wait

Test prop has a 4.5 day half-life , so use the formula given and that give you 14days till pct

Pct starts @ week 12 not 11

For pct I suggest following oupa's protocol

14days clomid @ 50mg
30days nolvadex @ 20mg

also you maybe want to think about using HCG during your cycle and running your winstrol from week 8 or 9 till pct

Test prop for ten weeks is a bitch. but do able. Oupas pct protocol will work.

Run hcg week 3 up to pct 250ius a week.

Are you planning this cycle for in the future Bud? Because your no where near 11% at the moment.

Rhino wrote: Are you planning this cycle for in the future Bud? Because your no where near 11% at the moment.

I believe this is his intention to run at a later stage. His weight in his log is recently as 88kg. so he still has a few more Kgs to drop before those are his stats.

150mg Test Prop is on the very low side. 400mg + or you're wasting your time in my opinion. Also look at running it for twelve weeks.

Take essentials on cycle you can use the Milk Thisstle pre and post cycle. On cycle it will hinder your gains.

Add HCG @250ui twice per week from week four up untill post cycle.

Rhino wrote: Are you planning this cycle for in the future Bud? Because your no where near 11% at the moment.

Hi Rhino, I'm planning for the future. Maybe mid 2015. Or 2016

I thought the 150mg was EOD

What about adding proviron? Decrease the SHBG, Increase Free Test?

Whats the pinning schedule bud? 150 EOD?

donkiekong wrote:
For pct I suggest following oupa's protocol

14days clomid @ 50mg
30days nolvadex @ 20mg

This is the correct post cycle for you to run.

Think the Milk Thistle is due to the hepotoxic Winnys

Kuifie wrote:

Rhino wrote: Are you planning this cycle for in the future Bud? Because your no where near 11% at the moment.

I believe this is his intention to run at a later stage. His weight in his log is recently as 88kg. so he still has a few more Kgs to drop before those are his stats.

Thanks for the reply Kingdom. I'm just educating myself. This is a for future purpose. I hope I'm not wasting everyone's time. When time comes ill be confident and know what to do.

I wanna reduce the be and weight then bulk up at a later stage. Thank you for your inputs. Much appreciated.


So if I had those that's, will this cycle be relevant or good, just to build muscle mass?

Mason Might wrote: Think the Milk Thistle is due to the hepotoxic Winnys

Definitely, but essentiale will do the trick at those doses while not hindering gains.

Kuifie wrote: Test prop for ten weeks is a bitch. but do able. Oupas pct protocol will work.

Run hcg week 3 up to pct 250ius a week.

You mean it's bad for 10 weeks?

Nope just mean pinning so often for 10 weeks sucks. Prop does hurt in virgin muscle.

bms wrote: Hi guys

Say my stats are:

Height: 176cm
Weight: 83-85kg
BF%: 10-11%
Age:27

Will this Beginner Cutting Cycle be appropriate? Using Test as the basis

Week 1-10: 150mg Test Prop
Week 1-14: 0.25mg Arimidex
Week 5-10: 50mg Winstrol
Week 1-14: Milk Thistles

One week off

PCT
Week 11: 300mg Clomid
Week 12: 200mg Clomid
Week 13: 100mg Clomid
Week 14: 50mg Clomid

Week 11-12: 40mg Nolvadex
Week 13-14: 20mg Nolvadex



Any comments? Much appreciated

I wouldn't run milk thistle that long.. I would swap and change it with essential and then half way through the cycle I would look at forking out the cash and using SAMe .. remember to run liver support a few weeks past PCT, as any drug that has a schedule on it, and other supplements, but that's for another post has side effects...

Winstrol week 1 to 3 .. and again 9 to 12.. then start PCT..

hCG week 8-12.. 250iu every other day..
Clomid for 10 days at 100mg
Nolva at 20mg for 40 days after the clomid.

You can if you want not use Nolva and just use the Adex for your PCT..

Just play with the hCG as people respond differently to it.. I find I need quite high doses twice a week..

00pump wrote:

bms wrote: Hi guys

Say my stats are:

Height: 176cm
Weight: 83-85kg
BF%: 10-11%
Age:27

Will this Beginner Cutting Cycle be appropriate? Using Test as the basis

Week 1-10: 150mg Test Prop
Week 1-14: 0.25mg Arimidex
Week 5-10: 50mg Winstrol
Week 1-14: Milk Thistles

One week off

PCT
Week 11: 300mg Clomid
Week 12: 200mg Clomid
Week 13: 100mg Clomid
Week 14: 50mg Clomid

Week 11-12: 40mg Nolvadex
Week 13-14: 20mg Nolvadex



Any comments? Much appreciated

I wouldn't run milk thistle that long.. I would swap and change it with essential and then half way through the cycle I would look at forking out the cash and using SAMe .. remember to run liver support a few weeks past PCT, as any drug that has a schedule on it, and other supplements, but that's for another post has side effects...

Winstrol week 1 to 3 .. and again 9 to 12.. then start PCT..

hCG week 8-12.. 250iu every other day..
Clomid for 10 days at 100mg
Nolva at 20mg for 40 days after the clomid.

You can if you want not use Nolva and just use the Adex for your PCT..

Thanks pump.

Remember the mathematics higher grade class, heard spinning. I must really go a read more. Thanks for the reply. I have to research more. Thanks for the information

Hi guys.

I decided to combine Test Pro + Tren Ace. Simply cause I can just pin once (mixing the 2 in one spring).

Please comment on the following changes

Week 1-12: Test Prop @ 400mg/week (EOD/Every 2 days)
Week 1-8: Tren-Ace @ 80mg/week
Week 4-12: HCG @ 500iu/week
Week 1-3: Milk Thistle

Bridge:
Anavar @ 20mg/day for 13 days

PCT:
14 days Cloud @ 50mg
30 days Nolvadex @ 20mg
Milk Thistle after day 30 for 1 week.

Any advise, changes are welcome.

There is a similar sample cycle and pct3 is used with cabasser on cycle.

bms wrote: Hi guys.

I decided to combine Test Pro + Tren Ace. Simply cause I can just pin once (mixing the 2 in one spring).

Please comment on the following changes

Week 1-12: Test Prop @ 400mg/week (EOD/Every 2 days)
Week 1-8: Tren-Ace @ 80mg/week 80mg per week ?
Week 4-12: HCG @ 500iu/week
Week 1-3: Milk Thistle

Bridge:
Anavar @ 20mg/day for 13 days Waist of money. Run the var @ 60mg from week 8 - 14

PCT:
14 days Cloud @ 50mg
30 days Nolvadex @ 20mg
Milk Thistle after day 30 for 1 week.

Any advise, changes are welcome.

Oupa wrote:

bms wrote: Hi guys.

I decided to combine Test Pro + Tren Ace. Simply cause I can just pin once (mixing the 2 in one spring).

Please comment on the following changes

Week 1-12: Test Prop @ 400mg/week (EOD/Every 2 days)
Week 1-8: Tren-Ace @ 80mg/week 80mg per week ?
Week 4-12: HCG @ 500iu/week
Week 1-3: Milk Thistle

Bridge:
Anavar @ 20mg/day for 13 days Waist of money. Run the var @ 60mg from week 8 - 14

PCT:
14 days Cloud @ 50mg
30 days Nolvadex @ 20mg
Milk Thistle after day 30 for 1 week.

Any advise, changes are welcome.

Thanks Oupa

That really helps a lot. I have rectified my mistake. See below

Week 1-12: Test Prop @ 400mg/week (EOD/Every 2 days)
Week 1-8: Tren-Ace @ 320mg/week
Week 4-12: HCG @ 500iu/week
Week 1-3: Milk Thistle

Bridge:
Week 8-14: Anavar @ 60mg/day

PCT:
14 days Cloud @ 50mg
30 days Nolvadex @ 20mg
Milk Thistle after day 30 for 1 week.

How about this Oupa?

That looks solid. Good cycle.

Why the Milk Thistle week 1 to 3 ?

How many cycles have you run Bms?

Are you sure about the Tren?

Rhino wrote: How many cycles have you run Bms?

Technically this would be the first.

I did Heat + Primo before, had no knowledge on what I was doing?