Thoughts on this Cutting cycle

Bro rather try avoid the Nor 19 compounds like tren for now...

wait till you get a bit more experience under your belt...

Mason Might wrote: Are you sure about the Tren?

Now you making me doubt....... I'm sure. Why are you asking buddy? Is it that bad?

Mason Might wrote: Are you sure about the Tren?

Now you're making me doubt........... Yes i'm sure.
Why are you asking? Is it bad than what i read?

Tren is very harsh...
it shuts you down hard, and can mess with your head a bit... i havent had any experience myself, as im too kak bang of it... but read up on it.

id say rather omit that compound completely for a first time cycle...

Mason Might wrote: Tren is very harsh...
it shuts you down hard, and can mess with your head a bit... i havent had any experience myself, as im too kak bang of it... but read up on it.

id say rather omit that compound completely for a first time cycle...

what can i replace it with?

In my honest opinion

Run 500mg Test Cyp or Enanthate per week for 12 weeks.
and a winny Bridge

keep it simple and basic.
learn how your body reacts to the compounds so you can pinpoint sides when they pop up...

But Rather wait to see what Ma or Oupa say on it... Rhino and Kuifie may have some good advice too...

Oupa already gave it the go ahead, perhaps this is because its 80mg only of the tren ace?

I don't think Oupa realized it's your first cycle othereise he wouldn't have advised you to go ahead with Tren. You've been around a while Bms you should no better by now.

Rhino wrote: I don't think Oupa realized it's your first cycle othereise he wouldn't have advised you to go ahead with Tren. You've been around a while Bms you should no better by now.

I did not realize its the first cycle. No tren for first time users.

Mason Might wrote: In my honest opinion

Run 500mg Test Cyp or Enanthate per week for 12 weeks.
and a winny Bridge

keep it simple and basic.
learn how your body reacts to the compounds so you can pinpoint sides when they pop up...

But Rather wait to see what Ma or Oupa say on it... Rhino and Kuifie may have some good advice too...

Good option.

Hi Oupa

The following cycle is one of what you suggested for someone else. But here's my sample. Please comment.

Test-E Week 1 - 16 - @ 600mg pw
Winstrol Week 1 - 5 @ 30mg ED split dose evenly x 3
Winstrol Week 15 - 20 @ 30mg ED split dose evenly x 3
HCG Week 4 - 20 @ 500iu per week
Clomid Week 20 - 22 @ 50mg ED (14 days)
Nolvadex Week 22 - 26 @ 20mg ED (30 days)

With Test-E's half life, according to my calculation, One must wait 31.5 days.
Will starting the PCT at week 20 be good?
What will be the best pinning schedule of Test? 300mg Monday's and 300mg Thursday?

bms wrote: Hi Oupa

The following cycle is one of what you suggested for someone else. But here's my sample. Please comment.

Test-E Week 1 - 16 - @ 600mg pw
Winstrol Week 1 - 5 @ 30mg ED split dose evenly x 3
Winstrol Week 15 - 20 @ 30mg ED split dose evenly x 3
HCG Week 4 - 20 @ 500iu per week
Clomid Week 20 - 22 @ 50mg ED (14 days)
Nolvadex Week 22 - 26 @ 20mg ED (30 days)

With Test-E's half life, according to my calculation, One must wait 31.5 days.
Will starting the PCT at week 20 be good?
What will be the best pinning schedule of Test? 300mg Monday's and 300mg Thursday?

Very good cycle. You can also add proviron.

Reason - Winstrol lowers Sex- Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG) dramatically. Also see the Proviron profile for how it binds to SHBG instead. Using both of these compounds at the same time, will dramatically free up a huge amount of testosterone to actively cycle your bloodstream. The more free testosterone the better its activity will be.

Oupa wrote:

bms wrote: Hi Oupa

The following cycle is one of what you suggested for someone else. But here's my sample. Please comment.

Test-E Week 1 - 16 - @ 600mg pw
Winstrol Week 1 - 5 @ 30mg ED split dose evenly x 3
Winstrol Week 15 - 20 @ 30mg ED split dose evenly x 3
HCG Week 4 - 20 @ 500iu per week
Clomid Week 20 - 22 @ 50mg ED (14 days)
Nolvadex Week 22 - 26 @ 20mg ED (30 days)

With Test-E's half life, according to my calculation, One must wait 31.5 days.
Will starting the PCT at week 20 be good?
What will be the best pinning schedule of Test? 300mg Monday's and 300mg Thursday?

Very good cycle. You can also add proviron.

Reason - Winstrol lowers Sex- Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG) dramatically. Also see the Proviron profile for how it binds to SHBG instead. Using both of these compounds at the same time, will dramatically free up a huge amount of testosterone to actively cycle your bloodstream. The more free testosterone the better its activity will be.

When must I start Proviron?

Please help with the questions I asked as well.
Thanks Oupa, you are a good madala

1.Week 20 is perfect to start PCT, 30 days is OK with Enanthate.

2. Mondays and Thursdays are the days I would pin, 300mg on each.

3.Proviron should be incorporated from day 1. It's a mild compound and will dramatically reduce SHBG. If I'm not mistaken I think Oupa adds it to all his cycles.

Take note :
I have only seen PGW test E come in 300mg/ml.
This product is said to cause some pain, especially in virgin muscle, so warm it up before you pin it.

Mason Might wrote: 1.Week 20 is perfect to start PCT, 30 days is OK with Enanthate.

2. Mondays and Thursdays are the days I would pin, 300mg on each.

3.Proviron should be incorporated from day 1. It's a mild compound and will dramatically reduce SHBG. If I'm not mistaken I think Oupa adds it to all his cycles.

Take note :
I have only seen PGW test E come in 300mg/ml.
This product is said to cause some pain, especially in virgin muscle, so warm it up before you pin it.

Thank you MM. Will definitely do that.
Sorry to ask on separate replies.

Will an insulin needle work?

No! That's not a good idea

21 gauge and 3ml syringe is what worked best for me.

You can run the Proviron Weeks 1-20 bud...

Mason Might wrote: No! That's not a good idea

21 gauge and 3ml syringe is what worked best for me.

You can run the Proviron Weeks 1-20 bud...

Thanks MM. Let me start planning for the shopping. Get everything ready for next year.

Hi Guys, I'm just wondering can one ad clen to a cutting cycle like this?

I know its probably a dumb question,

Thanks

Oupa wrote:

bms wrote: Hi Oupa

The following cycle is one of what you suggested for someone else. But here's my sample. Please comment.

Test-E Week 1 - 16 - @ 600mg pw
Winstrol Week 1 - 5 @ 30mg ED split dose evenly x 3
Winstrol Week 15 - 20 @ 30mg ED split dose evenly x 3
HCG Week 4 - 20 @ 500iu per week
Clomid Week 20 - 22 @ 50mg ED (14 days)
Nolvadex Week 22 - 26 @ 20mg ED (30 days)

With Test-E's half life, according to my calculation, One must wait 31.5 days.
Will starting the PCT at week 20 be good?
What will be the best pinning schedule of Test? 300mg Monday's and 300mg Thursday?

Very good cycle. You can also add proviron.

Reason - Winstrol lowers Sex- Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG) dramatically. Also see the Proviron profile for how it binds to SHBG instead. Using both of these compounds at the same time, will dramatically free up a huge amount of testosterone to actively cycle your bloodstream. The more free testosterone the better its activity will be.

Hi guys

At what dosage must I run Proviron in this cycle?

bms wrote:

Oupa wrote:

bms wrote: Hi Oupa

The following cycle is one of what you suggested for someone else. But here's my sample. Please comment.

Test-E Week 1 - 16 - @ 600mg pw
Winstrol Week 1 - 5 @ 30mg ED split dose evenly x 3
Winstrol Week 15 - 20 @ 30mg ED split dose evenly x 3
HCG Week 4 - 20 @ 500iu per week
Clomid Week 20 - 22 @ 50mg ED (14 days)
Nolvadex Week 22 - 26 @ 20mg ED (30 days)

With Test-E's half life, according to my calculation, One must wait 31.5 days.
Will starting the PCT at week 20 be good?
What will be the best pinning schedule of Test? 300mg Monday's and 300mg Thursday?

Very good cycle. You can also add proviron.

Reason - Winstrol lowers Sex- Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG) dramatically. Also see the Proviron profile for how it binds to SHBG instead. Using both of these compounds at the same time, will dramatically free up a huge amount of testosterone to actively cycle your bloodstream. The more free testosterone the better its activity will be.

Hi guys

At what dosage must I run Proviron in this cycle?

50mg ED (split 2x25mg)

Hudlim031 wrote:

bms wrote:

Oupa wrote:

bms wrote: Hi Oupa

The following cycle is one of what you suggested for someone else. But here's my sample. Please comment.

Test-E Week 1 - 16 - @ 600mg pw
Winstrol Week 1 - 5 @ 30mg ED split dose evenly x 3
Winstrol Week 15 - 20 @ 30mg ED split dose evenly x 3
HCG Week 4 - 20 @ 500iu per week
Clomid Week 20 - 22 @ 50mg ED (14 days)
Nolvadex Week 22 - 26 @ 20mg ED (30 days)

With Test-E's half life, according to my calculation, One must wait 31.5 days.
Will starting the PCT at week 20 be good?
What will be the best pinning schedule of Test? 300mg Monday's and 300mg Thursday?

Very good cycle. You can also add proviron.

Reason - Winstrol lowers Sex- Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG) dramatically. Also see the Proviron profile for how it binds to SHBG instead. Using both of these compounds at the same time, will dramatically free up a huge amount of testosterone to actively cycle your bloodstream. The more free testosterone the better its activity will be.

Hi guys

At what dosage must I run Proviron in this cycle?

50mg ED (split 2x25mg)

Thanks Hudlim. The Proviron comes in 20mg, so I'll take 1 cap and split it. Is that how im suppose to do it?

No no, If you have the 20mg take one in the morning and one in the afternoon.

So 40mg in total.

Remember, same dose on weekends.

Thanks Hudlim

Hudlim031 wrote: No no, If you have the 20mg take one in the morning and one in the afternoon.

So 40mg in total.

Rather split them morning and nights. The dosage is correct.