Masteron,turinabol,winny,clen cutting cycle?

Oupa wrote:

PsyCLown wrote:
Generally you would either need to be just cutting or bulking, seldom you can do both at the same time (lose fat while gaining muscle).
I do not think there are many substances which will allow someone who has been training for a few years to lose weight and gain muscle at the same time. I have heard it is possible with tren, although I am not too sure how that would work - would you still be eating in a caloric deficit or would a surplus work as well?

Who ever gives you info has no idea what they talking about.

Care to elaborate then? You have a lot of experience, so share some knowledge please

Hi guys,so I didn't want to start a new thread and I want to start buying the goodies for my next cycle and would like your input.

Current stats
Height: 194cm
Weight: 110kg
Bf %: 17%(eating very clean until my cycle,should be around 14% by then if things carry on like they are now)

2 oral cycles and 2 injectable cycles behind me

8 week cutting cycle

Week 1-8
Test prop 500mg PW
Arimadex if needed
Tren 200mg PW
Cabaser

Week 1-4
Anapolon 50mg PD (some say you can cut with anaps(clarify please)

Week 6-10
Winstrol 40mg PD
FFF
Clen

PCT 3 will be used

Roughly based on the advanced cutting cycle but anavar is just gonna work out too expensive for me.

Would like to start the cycle mid August,goal is to get down to + - 12% bf.

I think the Tren dosage could be changed but I'll wait for you pros out there to shout

*Throw hcg on cycle
*anap can lean u out it all depends how your body reacts to it and your diet off course

*continue with prop a week or two after last tren jab

*tren dose is fine

Personally I don't like the last part of your cycle then Clen FFF and winny, u would be good with winny alone and using Clen till and during pct. also try get to 14% then do this cycle to see better results

Thanks lex,

So 250iu hcg 2x a week from week 4?

Excited to see what tren and abol does,first time ever using them!!

Dont think mixing more fatburners with clen is a good idea bud, go check Pyro's All you need to know about clen, but pls keep us updated on sides....

I'm currently running 80mcg clen,I tab beesting and ripped freak..it can get a bit much but most of the time I feel fine just a lot of shaking.lost 2kg in 10 days and I have to admit my diet was okay but could've been better..I'm gonna run this for 30 days and then leave it for 2 weeks and carry on with yohimbine pills. I had a scare in the beginning of the year where I OD on clen and cyt3 had a total of 200mcg of clen excluding the yohimbine and t3,felt like my heart was gonna explode and I was shaking like crazy..I phoned my girlfriend cause I literally thought I was gonna die, I just lied down on the floor forcing myself to cough for about an hour until the worst was over,went to a heart specialist about a week after and had a anomaly in one of the valves in my heart but cleared up after a month, made me remember that this stuff isn't a joke and should be taken very seriously.
(Tip,if your cyt3 falls out in a bag that you keep your nolvadex in make sure you don't take your pills in the dark guys,my own ignorance)

My friend Someone is watching over you, you can be glad...

Amen!! Fat burners should be taken very cautiously,personally I think they are one of the most dangerous things of the bodybuilding world.i recently started a post on DNP and its some scary stuff but different strokes for different folks

Youll never know untill you try hey, clen gave me some serious shit I dropped it quickly

Yeah,what did you experience praetorivs?

Cramps from hell, shaking hands, heart pumps could not even sleep. Anti catabolic and anabolic effects where great though

Yeah that's pretty normal,ketotifen before bed usually helps with sleep..I actually feel more sleepy in the afternoon when taking clen. I honestly can't say if I've experienced any anabolic effects from clen because I usually take it close to cycles,some say it is anabolic others say not at all,I do find however I can train like a beast while on clen even though I sound like a steam train and sweat like a boiler..pretty good stuff tho,I honestly find it great when people share their personal experiences weather they effed something up or not it just makes us a little wiser in the end..sounds like a good thread idea

Sorry we got a bit off topic,I assume the lack of commentary means the proposed cycle is Shap?

Yes quite a derailment haha, I rather cant say anything regarding your cycle rather wait for one of the more experienced oaks to post, maybe you can repost it to get it going again bud

Yeah I'll leave it until tomorrow before reposting, it looks like this topic has a habit of losing its original idea if you look earlier
..have a great night praet thanks for sharing

Mooi loop pella, moenie te veel pille drink nie :pinch:

Jono bud
Why not try Teen and test first see how your system responds. Then the same for Abombs run them and Prop.

If you have not got experience with either then taking them together both for the first time might be a bit overwhelming...

Why should he test a teen first? lol

What kind of forum is this?? :lol:

For cardio and fitness.... :whistle:

Typo man fokken auto correct... Meant Tren and Test

Imagine trying a teen while on test... :ohmy:

HAHAHA

Lol Nah guys I'll leave the teens to their own age group ..well if I do the cycle I want to take advantage of the tren and if the sides of the anaps get a bit bad I can always stop them


Got so pissed of today and although it's off topic it's quite serious.so this kid I know messages me and asks me to get him deca and how much it is? He's in grade 10 and he's 16!!!! I told him to eff off and never to ask me something like that again,I also said he shouldn't use at least until he's much older and knows what he's doing..I phoned his father and told him what his son asked for,the kid might hate me but at least I did my bit to save his future

thumbs up for saving his puberty bud, I know a very young guy(if he is male) in the gym (looks like a monster) but when he starts talking he sounds like a girl, imagine this guy coming to you in the locker room and asking you if you want some gear and giving you bro-science...

Yeah this stuff is crazy in schools..one guy in my gym he's probably in matric now and he's HUGE!! ..benches 80kg and leg presses 650kg..I saw him doing 10 sets of 10 preacher curl machine with 80kg!!when he speaks he sounds like a bass player solo tho.. guys in schools are just getting unnaturally massive,like when have you seen a loose head prop weighing in at 120kg with powerlifter legs and could keep up with the wings in full sprint?!?!..when I was in school there were a few kids that juiced and some even girls that took low dose anavar or if they could afford it primo..it was openly discussed and not at all shameful or embarrassing..it's sad tho because these kids don't know what they're doing and I think a lot of "influence" comes off from pro bodybuilders and ammeters alike..the kid that asked me for the deca said "can you get me deca,I want to get huge quickly" I just looked at him like wtf?? He knew about my use but in a way I feel almost responsible for him wanting to start juicing? Not sure if I should sit him down and educate him or leave him? I'm afraid if I educate him he's gonna get the wrong impression and juice but "properly" which I don't want..

Oupa wrote: Why should he test a teen first? lol

WITH test hey! The poor little girl... Hope she is fit! :side:

Hey guys, I just wanna find out quick if cabaser is legal or not? Is it something I could buy over the counter or do I need to source a underground dealer for it?