Masteron,turinabol,winny,clen cutting cycle?

UG labs or prescription which you wont get.

Jono77 wrote: Hey guys, I just wanna find out quick if cabaser is legal or not? Is it something I could buy over the counter or do I need to source a underground dealer for it?

Cabaser is not available at SA pharmacies last time I checked. We only have Dostinex and it's very expensive and comes in packaging of 2 tabs at 0.5mg each.

@jono

Maybe have a chat with him and make him understand the dangers. Ignorance is not bliss haha, i had the same thing with a kid at my gym, he is gr9 and actually looks pretty good for his age, he was db benching the 32's last week. i would say he is a lot stronger than most kids his age and has a balanced build. but he asked about dianabols and oral steroids because like most he is scared of injections. Told him how the basics work BUT i said he must wait till at least 26/27

Demolish wrote: @jono

Maybe have a chat with him and make him understand the dangers. Ignorance is not bliss haha, i had the same thing with a kid at my gym, he is gr9 and actually looks pretty good for his age, he was db benching the 32's last week. i would say he is a lot stronger than most kids his age and has a balanced build. but he asked about dianabols and oral steroids because like most he is scared of injections. Told him how the basics work BUT i said he must wait till at least 26/27

Yeah I spoke to him about it,told him all the side effects short and long term..he still wants to go through with it and run dbol so that's his own issue..I told him not to ask me to get it or where he's getting it..saw my cousin whose in matric now after 3 years and he's really looking good,I can see the redness and acne on his arms and asked him what he's using,he's using test combo and deca,since he already started I decided to embrace it and make sure he does it right and follows through with a proper pct, I don't mind helping him cause he's a bright kid and really did a lot of research and since he started there's no point in Kaking him out or being super negative..I started my first cycle at 20 so I can't really judge him..

yeah rather help them then and make sure they don't completely screw themselves up. there is a different kid at gym , think he is also 20 who hasn't once done a pct and ran a test e, deca, and tren e for a first and second cycle.... took only 6 weeks between cycles. and a friend who competes recommended it to him. i couldn't believe that shit

Holy shit he's probably screwed up down there..I understand using deca and test for a first and second cycle but never tren in the beginning,go big or go home hey ..I'll be running tren later this year in my third injectable cycle and I can't imagine how he must have felt between cycles with no test in his system.i personally feel like shit in that bridge period with heavy depression and no zest for life..it's scary what some guys do and the "advice" that professionals share with younger guys that can really put their life in danger

Okay guys I've been budgeting and it's come to quite a bit..can I run the tren for 6 weeks and then the test up to week 8? Will I see good enough gains? Or can I run the test and tren together until week 8?

yeah i haven't seen him in a while so i dunno whats going on. I told him to come read the forums and get on a proper pct asap and go see the doc

So this is my final plan of my cycle,any changes?

Week 1-2
Test combo 450
0.5ml Mondays

Week1-8
Test prop 390mg PW
1.3ml M/W/F
Arimadex

Week 1-6
Tren ace 210mg PW
0.8ml M/W/F
Cabaser(week1-7)
HCG 500iu pw(week 2-7

Week 1-4
Anapolon 50mg ED

Week 6-10
Winstrol 40mg ed
Clenbutrol

PCT

Week 1
100mg clomid ED

Week 2-?
Nolvadex
Hcg 500iu 3x pw until 5000iu


Extras

28x 21guage needles
28x 3ml syringe with needle
20x insulin syringe
Multivitamin
Essentials
Milk thistle
Joint support
Creatine?

Anything I should change or add/remove?

If I run HCG during the cycle do I still need to run it in my pct again?

The training plan I have set up is high reps with 60-80% max weight

Monday- chest and core morning, cardio afternoon
Tuesday- arms and shoulders
Wednesday- legs,core and cardio,afternoon cardio
Thursday-back and shoulders
Friday-chest or arms
Saturday- legs and core with cardio
Sunday- cardio

Won't be trying to set any new PRs but focusing on quality,dense muscle

Does all this look right? Any helpful input will be super appreciated

Jono77 wrote: So this is my final plan of my cycle,any changes?


PCT

Week 1
100mg clomid ED

Week 2-?
Nolvadex
Hcg 500iu 3x pw until 5000iu


Multivitamin
Essentials
Milk thistle
Joint support
Creatine?

Anything I should change or add/remove?

If I run HCG during the cycle do I still need to run it in my pct again?

Nolvadex should be 20mg ED for 30days, not sure about HCG rather wait for a old pro to advise.
As far as I know you can drop the expensive multivit (cheap multivit at dischem that has everything you need and its bulk), essentials (unless your liver is really screwed and dischem multivit has got Codliver Oil in for O3), joint support? (not really needed unless you have joint problems like older males), creatine is your choice, but I would add or Flaxseed gells for extra O3,6,9 or take a shot of Olive oil each day.

You usually don't need to run HCG in PCT if you ran it during your cycle.

Jono77 wrote: The training plan I have set up is high reps with 60-80% max weight

Monday- chest and core morning, cardio afternoon
Tuesday- arms and shoulders
Wednesday- legs,core and cardio,afternoon cardio
Thursday-back and shoulders
Friday-chest or arms
Saturday- legs and core with cardio
Sunday- cardio

You can try 80% max weight but you need to ensure muscle size does not decrease as your body compensates for lower resistance, when I dropped my resistance weight muscles started to shrink. Training plan looks okay what I'll be worried about is sufficient kcals to burn so you need to make sure your diet is 100% on the spot, Saturday and Sunday I would do only 30min high intensity, be careful of overtraining as it can kill intermediate recovery ITR. I'm sure FURK can work a killer routine out for you to use.... nudge nudge

PraetorXII wrote:

Jono77 wrote: The training plan I have set up is high reps with 60-80% max weight

Monday- chest and core morning, cardio afternoon
Tuesday- arms and shoulders
Wednesday- legs,core and cardio,afternoon cardio
Thursday-back and shoulders
Friday-chest or arms
Saturday- legs and core with cardio
Sunday- cardio

You can try 80% max weight but you need to ensure muscle size does not decrease as your body compensates for lower resistance, when I dropped my resistance weight muscles started to shrink. Training plan looks okay what I'll be worried about is sufficient kcals to burn so you need to make sure your diet is 100% on the spot, Saturday and Sunday I would do only 30min high intensity, be careful of overtraining as it can kill intermediate recovery ITR. I'm sure FURK can work a killer routine out for you to use.... nudge nudge

I've found with my training that high reps give me the best results,I usually pyramid the weight starting with 4 reps of max weight and incrementally decreasing the weight and increasing by 2 reps each time,sometimes i end on 2kg for 50 reps but it gets heavy and get that pump and mind muscle connection. I'm following a rough outline of the German high intensity programme(I think that's what it's called,can't remember exactly). I usually break up the year into quarters;

First quarter: strength training (low rep,heavy weight)
Second quarter: mass training ( high rep,60-80%max weight)
Third quarter:strength training
Fourth quarter: mass training

jono when cutting do moderate weight highish reps 12-15 also known as hypertrophy training keep the intensity high this will keep muscle size as you pump the muscle full of blood and nutrients. You are going to be using Winny so Creatine not needed. With tren and snaps consider changing Adex with Aromasin 20mg Every 3 days... Adex and letro give rebound. Keep Caber dose as Oupa suggested

Sorry Anaps not Snaps

Rooi Bul 86 wrote: Sorry Anaps not Snaps

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Im battling to source cabaser and aromasin? I only know of 3 dealers and they all stock the same things

use the product enquiries link for possible help with cabaser

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Rooi Bul 86 wrote: Sorry Anaps not Snaps

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So I'm busy running my pct now I'm starting week 2 into the HCG and all seems to be going well,libido up,mood up,and just feeling better in general..

Anyway I was thinking if it's actually a good idea to cycle tren after 2 previous deca cycles?

Is it just too much or if my body allows (after bloods) will it be fine?

How long should I wait before cycling again?

So I've been doing some serious thinking and I'll run this cycle next year,give my body a break from the deca cycles..thanks for all the info you guys have given me!! I'll buy the gear so long but only cycle the tren next year February.sorry to mess you guys around but I'm not up to those 19nor type guys right now.

I'll cycle test prop and tbol for a short 6 week cycle

Week 1-6
300mg test
40mg tbol

Week 2-6
Cyt3
Arimadex/aromasin

Bridge with proviron only and use pct 2

Will be very strict clean diet, lots of cardio and maybe throw in some gw

Just want to lose some stubborn weight and harden up,currently at 16.5%bf weight at a steady 110kg
My goal is 13-14%bf but mostly just to get a bit harder.dont want to use winstrol,not a big fan of the joint pain and will only ever use it to dry out after a bulking cycle. What do you guys think?

6 week cycle is a waist of time. 4 weeks using Cyt3, how do you plan on tapering up and down your clen and t3 if its all in one tablet? Or will you do what they all do? hope for the best that your thyroid recovers?

Bridge with proviron only?

Your cycle makes no sense.

What do you suggest then oupa?

I've read through the sample cycles but they aren't exactly what I'm looking for.

8 week cycle

Week1-8
300mg test pw (might increase to 450mg pw)
50mg proviron Ed

Week 1-4
40mg tbol Ed

Bridge with tbol

AI as usual and swap out cyt3 for yohimbine and Clen. I've always wanted to try masteron but I think my bf is too high for it to actually be visually effective for me?any thoughts?

I have cyt3 and just wanted to try it out,I understand what you're saying oupa but would it be okay to take half and then a quarter tab to taper down or is this not possible?