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01 Nov 2010 13:39 #54518 by 00pump

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Im glad, finally somebody on the board is using the right stuff, as milk thistle is like nolva, you trying to use that to prevent estrogen, rather use an AI. Same with this, use SAMe

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01 Nov 2010 13:43 #54520 by vega5

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I listen when you talk brother.

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01 Nov 2010 13:44 #54521 by vega5

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I listen when you talk brother. So you reckon one 400mg tab per day is enough?

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01 Nov 2010 14:22 #54528 by 00pump

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I have been told you can run 1 tab with 1 tab of milk thistle if the best way to prevent any damage..

I will test this, next cycle I will use some harsh orals and see what my tests come back on the liver.

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01 Nov 2010 14:30 #54531 by vega5

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I'm not a big orals fan and my liver has always recovered 100% with two legalon a day but wit 50mg Winny per day for four weeks I'm not taking chances.

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09 Nov 2010 19:47 #55252 by vega5

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I had nothing to do so I decided to take a pic of my pet body part, my back.

I just need to work on the body fat a bit.

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13 Nov 2010 08:00 #55502 by vega5

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Hi guys,

So I've made a very hard decision. I'm going to go on PCT early because I'm big into listening to your body and its telling me that its had enough of muti for now. So yesterday was my last shot and I'll start HCG today at 500IU EOD until PCT is over.

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13 Nov 2010 10:16 #55505 by 00pump

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Well done for listening, I have done the same, it honestly feels like its not going to end, im feeling shocking... Need to get through the hcg my body doesn't like it..

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14 Nov 2010 08:01 #55525 by vega5

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So the last part of the plan is to run 50mg Winny + 40mg Proviron to the start of my PCT while reducing the Letrozole daily till start of PCT.

I know this is common practise but haven't done this myself so I'm just checking if the logic is okay?

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14 Nov 2010 11:19 #55528 by 00pump

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In all honesty you don't really need Proviron and Winny, they both can work with your free testosterone. You can get away with either or, except the Proviron is less harsh on your system.

I have replaced the Letro with Aromasin to prevent any estrogen rebound. I would also run the HCG a week into your PCT / after the Winstrol, to make sure you have a proper recovery. I am going to run the Proviron into the first week too as I find it really helps with libido so it will kick start my PCT off nicely, then I will extend the Nolva and extra week.

I am also going to do 100mg of Clomid for 5 days, off for 5 then on for 5.. Just so I make sure I have all the androgens out my body and have an extreme recovery.

How short did you cut your cycle?

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14 Nov 2010 11:53 #55532 by vega5

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Best guess about 2.5 weeks.

I'm stopping HCG when starting Clomid and strating again 13 days later when I start Kessar. This is a new way of going about the HCG usage.

I think I might just run both the Winnie and Proviron to reduce the water.

What's your feeling on the use of fat burners during PCT ie. Heat and/or Clen?

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14 Nov 2010 12:34 #55534 by 00pump

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For me personal it's a no no.. By the time I come to an end of a cycle my body is tired of _everything_. However others find it really great during the first 2/3 weeks of PCT before their testosterone levels kick in and their energy, etc is back.

Interesting PCT approach... Let me know how your PCT works out for you, I am starting Clomid in 10 days time.

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21 Nov 2010 05:49 #56155 by vega5

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Its just been a little over a week since my last shot and I feel fantastic. After discovery Jack3d my strength has actually increased while on PCT where it generally falls to pieces as soon as the test starts leaving my system.

My nuts are coming along nicely with the HCG and I'm not feeling the test crash as usual because I'm tapering slowly off Letro and increased the Proviron to 60mg ED and dropped the Winny. I honestly feel the best I've ever felt during this stage of a cycle.

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02 Dec 2010 20:33 #57167 by vega5

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Report back time.

I've been on Clomid for 7 days now @ 100mg ED and moving onto 50mg ED for the next 6 days then starting three weeks of Kessar and HCG for 20 days.

This has been up and till now the best recovery ever, I feel fantastic and I haven't had any acne or any other issues while on PCT. Weight is hovering around 100-102kg but I'm very flat.

Training is going good, started to workout now two days on, one day off. Next week I'm staring Boxing/MMA training so I'm quite excited too see how that will fit into my future AAS use.

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03 Dec 2010 05:39 #57168 by 00pump

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Nice one vega5. I am also starting MMA but in January, I have a mate who is shredded to the bone because of that training.

Glad your PCT is going well.. Schweet

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18 Feb 2011 19:21 #61384 by vega5

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Okay the last post for this thread.

Got my post PCT blood tests back today and every single thing was 100%!

Now its onto the next cycle in April, yummy!

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19 Feb 2011 12:29 #61411 by STUARTF

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Nice one Vega. You're living proof that a solid PCT yields healthy bloodwork. I'm sure you'll also have no problem maintaining your gains.

What cycle you planning for April?

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19 Feb 2011 12:43 #61412 by vega5

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STUARTF wrote: Nice one Vega. You're living proof that a solid PCT yields healthy bloodwork. I'm sure you'll also have no problem maintaining your gains.

What cycle you planning for April?

I've been on many many cycles before and have always recovered 100% but this last PCT was something special as I've out of all my previous experiences built the perfect PCT and I do believe that I've cracked it.

My next cycle is Test prop, NPP and Mast prop all PGW, 1ml of each EOD for 6 weeks maybe 9 if I feel like it.

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19 Feb 2011 16:08 #61427 by Pumped

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Just remember to keep the test dose the same or if not higher than the NPP.So maybee 1.5ml test prop,1ml mast prop,1ml NPP EOD.That will be a killer .Are you gonna be using any fatburners along with this?

You guys might think I'm crazy,but i know how to achieve greatness.

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19 Feb 2011 16:29 #61428 by vega5

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Heat will definitely be in the mix

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19 Feb 2011 16:29 #61429 by vega5

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Heat will definitely be in the mix

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19 Feb 2011 17:51 #61434 by jackrabbit1

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vega5 wrote:
STUARTF wrote: Nice one Vega. You're living proof that a solid PCT yields healthy bloodwork. I'm sure you'll also have no problem maintaining your gains.

What cycle you planning for April?
I've been on many many cycles before and have always recovered 100% but this last PCT was something special as I've out of all my previous experiences built the perfect PCT and I do believe that I've cracked it.

My next cycle is Test prop, NPP and Mast prop all PGW, 1ml of each EOD for 6 weeks maybe 9 if I feel like it.

Will be nice. I've been looking at that a while now. Maybe just 2ml TestProp. I'll put my money on the 9 weeker..

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