Current cycle. Options

Yes true,
But well worth it, 0.5 adex (lp) from what people are saying seems to be as effective on cycle as 0.25 letro. Minus the side effects??
Weigh it up, iam still a letro fan but you say you tend to get the sides easily, anything below 1mg has no effect on me, but trying the adex in my next cycle due to all the good reports.
Peace

Yeah with letro the day after I start using letro my immune system goes for a ball of shit.

But in its defence I only started using it when my nipples started getting tender and I had to go up to about 1.75mg.

For this cycle I'm gonna switch my multi vit to Optimen just to be safe.

Take 4g+ Vit C while using Letro and you wont fall ill. Worked for me, but I got all the other sides.

I take 3/4g of vit c and I never get sick on Letro even up at 2.5mg a day, even though such a dose doesn't do any difference to 1mg i'm just giving an example.

My thread almost more resembles a blog dees days.

But anyway I've got a update. I've been chatting to one of our most senior members off forum and we mainly he came up with a great cycle.

I'll still be running a long cycle but its now being extended to 25 weeks. This will make it possible for me to do a bulk and fat loss diets in one cycle.

Now I need to get myself a diet: Some say his skin has the texture of a dolphin’s, and that wherever you are in the world if you tune your radio to 88.4 you can actually hear his thoughts...All we know is he's called The Squirrel


Looks as follows

W1-23: 320mg Supertest E2D
W1-4: 50mg d-bol ED
W1-6: 560mg Deca Per Week
W7-23: 410mg Equi Per Week
W18-23: 40mg Tren ace E2D
W18-23: 75mg Mast E2D
W18-23: T3
W18-23: Clen
W19-25: 25mg Proviron ED

Followed by strong PCT.

Mostly an EQ cycle at 1.5 - 2 grams of gear a week, with a six week harden up phase at the end right?
Just not sure on six weeks of bread and butter to start it. If you really wanted to maximise size I would've thought at least 10 weeks bread and butter then gone on to the EQ for the last 13 weeks with the dry up at the end.
With only 6 weeks of bread and butter I think you'll till get some wicked strength from the water retention etc, but don't feel you'll maximise on the growth. Nonetheless I like the overall picture.

Inja wrote:

Mostly an EQ cycle at 1.5 - 2 grams of gear a week, with a six week harden up phase at the end right?
Just not sure on six weeks of bread and butter to start it. If you really wanted to maximise size I would have thought at least 10 weeks bread and butter then gone on to the EQ for the last 13 weeks with the dry up at the end.
With only 6 weeks of bread and butter I think you'll till get some wicked strength from the water retention etc, but don't feel you'll maximise on the growth. Nonetheless I like the overall picture.

My main concern is that I wanted to drop the super test for the last 6 weeks for prop at maybe 150mg E2D but my help said its a bad idea because it will be a dramatic decrease in dose. He never gave reasons.

I want to do a 10 week bulk a then a 15 week contest prep type diet.

So then what I'm sayin is why not run the Deca (bread and butter) for the full 10 week bulk? Think you'll get more size off of it.

I think with the drop it's enough gear to keep you anabolic in the final moments of the diet phase, but I also don't see much difference between sticking with the Supertest all the way through as suggested (unless your actually competing). The final bf% drop will still be diet and maybe water (if you include an A.I. etc), so unless you actually want to compete why switch out to prop?

Okay, but do I then run the equi still as planned or start that week 11?

Yeah you'll want to start the EQ before the Deca is stopped, get the compounds levels up before the Deca clears...

You can either phase it in at lower doses from as early as week seven, for go for an EQ frontload approach at week 10, both will work fine. Both will also see a peak in drug levels in your cycle at week 11, but this point (week 11) is also the end of your bulk.

vega5 wrote:

W1-23: 320mg Supertest E2D
W1-4: 50mg d-bol ED
W1-6: 560mg Deca Per Week
W7-23: 410mg Equi Per Week
W18-23: 40mg Tren ace E2D
W18-23: 75mg Mast E2D
W18-23: T3
W18-23: Clen
W19-25: 25mg Proviron ED

Followed by strong PCT.

i would do this if i was you.

week 1-4
50mg dbol daily
week 1-15 shots taken monday,wednesday,friday,sunday
250mg cyprionate
175mg equipoise

week 16 - 21 shots taken monday,wednesday,friday,sunday
100mg test prop,40mg tren ace,75mg masteron 0.5mg a-dex

week 21-23
100mg test prop,40mg tren ace 0.5mg a-dex

then your last 6 weeks of your cycle use your t3 with clen + ketofin/beta sleep.
day 1-4 :25mcg t3 +60mcg clen
day 5-8 :50mcg t3 +80mcg clen
day 9-12 : 75mcg t3 +100mcg clen
day 13-30 : 100mcg t3(if u can handle this dose,if not stick at 75mcg) + 120mcg clen
day 31-36 50mcg +120mcg clen
day 37-42 25mcg +120mcg clen

make sure that u run the beta sleep(50mg) or ketofin (3mg before bed) so u dont get receptor down grade. i would take a break from all stimulants after this. if u can afford to i would run 0.25-0.5ml of reverzine the entire duration of the clen and t3 aswell.

from day 32 run 10 vital(brand) kelp tabs + 5 solal(brand) l-tyrosine tabs for 10days and then move on to solal thyroid repair for 1 month.

I have already procured the Super Test for the cycle up to week 17. I'll go onto prop the last six weeks then E2D.

I also have the deca and equi already.

I'm sure getting some Reverzine wouldn't be a problem. How much would I need for the six weeks?

Hi guys. I did something now that made sense when I done it but I'm just running it past you guys to confirm how right I was.

I had two Depotrone ams still left in my juice box and I have four weeks to go before my cycle starts. So I injected one tonight which is 200mg.

My plan is to take the second one in two week. The reason I've done it is because the next four weeks are a trainers hell. My son is currently in hospital and obviously its difficult to get to gym and eat properly and I'm going the US is two weeks for more the a week. So my main plan was to stay fairly anabolic during this time as I'm sure I'm probably already catabolic.

So what you guys think?

What the hell, why not.

vega5 wrote:

Hi guys. I did something now that made sense when I done it but I'm just running it past you guys to confirm how right I was.

I had two Depotrone ams still left in my juice box and I have four weeks to go before my cycle starts. So I injected one tonight which is 200mg.

My plan is to take the second one in two week. The reason I've done it is because the next four weeks are a trainers hell. My son is currently in hospital and obviously its difficult to get to gym and eat properly and I'm going the US is two weeks for more the a week. So my main plan was to stay fairly anabolic during this time as I'm sure I'm probably already catabolic.

So what you guys think?

sorry to hear about your son dude,hope he is alright

why does it have to be bread and butter why can't it be pap and sauce

Mr Moose wrote:

Yes true,
But well worth it, 0.5 adex (lp) from what people are saying seems to be as effective on cycle as 0.25 letro. Minus the side effects??
Weigh it up, iam still a letro fan but you say you tend to get the sides easily, anything below 1mg has no effect on me, but trying the adex in my next cycle due to all the good reports.
Peace

I've decided to go for Adex and I'll probably end up using the LP one as the proper pharma grade one is f-ing expensive.

I've read on some of the other threads that 0.5mg EOD will be sufficient, is this correct?

The nice thing is if this is the case then one 15ml bottle will last an entire cycle?

Vega:

No harm in trying that,
You pretty big on dosage of your gear though, so for the reasons i use adex that dose wouldn't be sufficient. But as you said saves you a bottle, maybe use the adex at that eod protocol and if sides come throw in some letro??

Peace

T minus three days from the first2.8ml pin and I'm super exited and very nervous at the same time as its these days before a cycle start where I start to question myself.

But I think my mind is right to take on a 25 week diet and 23 week baptism by needle. And if all is said and done I'm hoping to be at ±95kg with no more than 5%bf.

I'll update weekly on my progress and issues. I'll also take pictures but for now I'll hold onto them and post it at the end of the 25 weeks.

Any last suggestions before I delve into a life changing cycle?

Train hard, Keep it safe. DONT forget the safe guards. Keep your mind straight on the end goal.

Haha now i cant wait even to see the progress you will make.

Strongs bud keep us posted

Vat vas pappie :la-ola

vega5 wrote:

T minus three days from the first2.8ml pin and I'm super exited and very nervous at the same time as its these days before a cycle start where I start to question myself.
...

LOL! Same here - always. Then sides for 6/7 weeks before i start enjoying the cycle. Weird!

Hi Guys. I'll just cut to the chase. I started my cycle on my Monday and Tuesday my right nipple was sensitive to touch. I did start Monday with .5mg Anastrozole, so my question is do I carry on with the A-dex or do I need to switch over to Letro?

Sensitive how?? Itchy pain/bruise pain>

Ya with your high doses i rate the letro is the better choice! You taking that adex ED??

Peace

Hard to say, maybe switch to Nolva right away ? Letro isn't going to do anything for the free estrogen. Also I find it best to start these things 2 weeks prior to starting a cycle... I believe Nolva would be the best thing for immediate effect. Not sure how the fight would be between Nolva and Letro/Adex,we not trying to use this stack for a PCT so I don't think we need to worry about them canceling each other out, I have stacked them both in the past when had itchy nipples (and puffy / swollen). I would raise the ammount of Adex you taking now too. Is that eod or ED dose? if eod move to ed if ed bump it up or switch to letro but its going to take time before it does anything...

PS, I actually wouldn't switch to letro maybe add it to the mix but its going to take too long to find a stable level and the adex is allready started working...