Current cycle. Options

Define a blitz? 6 weeks? To short for the tren E to impact on the cycle. You will be better off keeping the tren for another cycle and just using the prop and winnie in your blitz. Can you do this at reasonable dosages with what you have?

Inja wrote:

Define a blitz? 6 weeks? To short for the tren E to impact on the cycle. You will be better off keeping the tren for another cycle and just using the prop and winnie in your blitz. Can you do this at reasonable dosages with what you have?

100mg Prop EOD for six weeks, +150 x 10mg Winny tabs. I'll look into the Tren Ace at probably 75mg EOD.

So 100mg prop EOD and 30-40mg winnie ED.
Yes I think the Ace will be a valuable addition.

I've been running the calculations and for the cost of Tren Ace I might as well run a 12 week Prop and Tren E cycle which is also not the cleverest thing to do.

What do you wish to achieve with the cycle? Depending on the goal perhaps add something else to the prop winnie mix, or run the prop winnie at those dosages and focus on fat loss.

My main reason is to test and see what results can be expected off a 6 week cycle as I've never done a short cycle only. The main reason for me wanting to include Tren is that it REALLY works well with my system.

Based on that I don't think it will be worth it unless you can get a little more gear. The tren Ace would really make the cycle bro.

So PCT is behind me and feeling pretty good and took two or so weeks off and it really helped.

Inja what do you think?

I think I figured out what I would like to do with my next cycle.

Start with 50mg d-bol a day for 4 weeks
150mg TrenE E4D x 80 days
100mg Prop EOD x 80 days
200mg Equi E7D x 80 days
Last 4 weeks run 50mg winnie a day

I know its not perfect but I've come from the days where I max dosed on everything 200mg test a day + 500mg Deca a week and still orals and dose days are behind me.


Ps. What do you guys think of each guy having his own thread like I'm trying to do here? (Admin) I think it'll save a lot of space on the board. My 2c.

The d-bols start with the cycle.

I'll also be cycling Clen and HEAT through the entire cycle.

Just a stupid question.

If you run clen and ECA on a two weeks alternating basis, would you run clen or ECA for the first two weeks?

I would suspect clen because your receptors would be nice and open still.

Vega, we just had that conversation in another thread as well.

ECA is a hammer tapping your receptors.
Clen is a sledge-hammer and smacks the receptors and everything else around it.

They both downregulate the receptors so you need Ketotifen anyway if youre gonna use them non-stop.
Either that or you will need time off.

See the Clen profile at Steroid.com - some nice graphs etc. explaining the whole deal.

This would be my last update and question session before I start to diet and juice on Thursday.

For the guys that didn't know I was suspected of having swine flu but it was never confirmed as the tests take 7 days and that's almost how long it takes to Tamiflu and all the other goodies start to work. I also had gastroscope done on Friday because about year back I started using Muscle Tech NaNO Vapour and that fucked up my system. According to the doctor that make my stomach produce more acid and I threw up every morning for the last year. So all in all I've lost 13kg so far this year and it wasn't bf it was muscle.

Started four days ago with .25mg (5IU) for it to stabelize in the blood. I also decided to go for absolute quality muscle, I'm gonna stop playing the size game. So I dropped the d-bols from my cycle.

I'm starting neither with ECA or clen but Tertroxin (T3). But after the first run I'll switch to clen. My question is what is the best PCT for your thyroid?

Sleeping on it and thinking about it again I'll just stick with Heat and clen.

Jeah Clen is a power!!!! not lost a single kg after my last cycle using clen in PCT, its been 3 weeks now since last jabb..

vega5 wrote:

This would be my last update and question session before I start to diet and juice on Thursday.

For the guys that didn't know I was suspected of having swine flu but it was never confirmed as the tests take 7 days and that's almost how long it takes to Tamiflu and all the other goodies start to work. I also had gastroscope done on Friday because about year back I started using Muscle Tech NaNO Vapour and that fucked up my system. According to the doctor that make my stomach produce more acid and I threw up every morning for the last year. So all in all I've lost 13kg so far this year and it wasn't bf it was muscle.

Started four days ago with .25mg (5IU) for it to stabelize in the blood. I also decided to go for absolute quality muscle, I'm gonna stop playing the size game. So I dropped the d-bols from my cycle.

I'm starting neither with ECA or clen but Tertroxin (T3). But after the first run I'll switch to clen. My question is what is the best PCT for your thyroid?

LOL, morning sickness??? Isn't that associated with pregnancy?

Jokes aside, nice to hear you sorted and another reason I stay away from the supplement Hype.

I have one last question before cycle start tomorrow.

Q: What's best practise? To drink clen upon waking or after your first meal which for me is about 10 mins apart? And I take a prescription drug as soon as I wake up (only time of day I can take this particular med).

In all honestly it shouldn't make any difference what so ever, unless it doing something with your sugar readings...

I take my drops as I open my eyes, then I head off down stairs and make some breakfast... I also take my perscription drug (BP medication) with all my other vits, etc before my breakfast...

I find i absorb it better if i take it when or just after i wake up. Feels like it works better for me on an empty stomach, even if i drink water first i feel as though it doesn't hit me right away

Probably time to give some feedback on my cycle. I'm currently halfway through PCT and I feel amazing just a bit tired but kept all my strength which is good.

One thing that I've learned from this cycle is if something worked for you brilliantly on one cycle it doesn't mean it would you on the next. All in all I gained about 3-4kg muscle mass and my BF stayed the same if not a tad less.

My next cycle will be a killer again and as always all opinions welcome!

Week1-5: 900mg Test E + 700mg Equi p/w, with a 2 or 3 week booster with d-bol. Then as an experiment I'm going to change one substance every 5 weeks to test my theory on changing substances. So for the first 5 weeks I'll hit Nandro-Prop twice a week.



Week 6-10:900mg Test E + 700mg Equi p/w, now for the test in this phase I want to use masteron but I'm not sure if twice a week shots would be sufficient?



Week 11-15:Test E 900mg + 700mg Equi p/w. Then as the experiment he I'll take Tren E twice a week and use injectable winny of the last three weeks.


My goal is to gain some serious mass as I've promised myself I'll compete in 2011 and the I want to kick ass!

But for the interrim I'll use clen to look after my muscle and it wouldn't hurt if I loose a bit of BF in the process.

Hey, I don't like changing other peoples cycles completely so I don't, but I don't like your tertiary compound ideas too much.

It seems like a silly theory on paper but more than enough people doit so give it a bash. Often when people look at switching compounds they also alternate their test esters as well. I think if you really want to play with swapping compounds run the cycle 16-20 weeks and go all out on the swap.

You can keep the EQ in their but I would think something like weeks 1-8 Test Cyp then weeks 9-16 Test E etc... Also I think 5 weeks is too soon to swap out the tertiary androgen. Also it would be better to do nandroprop more frequently than twice a week. Since I know you don't like being a pin cushion why not go for nandrolone decanoate twice a week in the first half of the cycle and then the planned tren E in the second half. This will give you a nice comparison of swapping compounds out.

If you didn't mind being a pin cushion for a hile you could go with prop and nandroprop on one half and testEtrenE on the other.

Thanks Inja, it makes a bit more sense this way!

In my last cycle I figured out the whole quad injection thing so I'm good to go EOD now. Actually I prefer the quad now.

I'm on the verge of starting to order some of my stock for my next cycle and now I'm sitting with a problem namely do I go for 900mg Testen a week or 960mg Super Test and instead of 700mg Equi do I go for 600 Tri-Anabol? All the products will obviously be PGW as always!

I'm very interested in these new products so I'm willing to give it a bash. But obviously if I go for Super test over Testen then I'll have to pin three times a week instead of the two that I was planning, I've been off juice now for more that six weeks and my ass is still blue (no joke).

You can't really switch out on compounds using tri-anabol and supertest, since they practically have everything in them already. SO pick a goal of experimentation. Swapping compounds or testing new products

Inja wrote:

You can't really switch out on compounds using tri-anabol and supertest, since they practically have everything in them already. SO pick a goal of experimentation. Swapping compounds or testing new products

I'm like a kid in a candy store. I don't know what to pick.

I know I won't be able to swap out as it won't make sense but what do I choose?

My question is, will the results be as good with super test and tri-anabol than with testen and equi?

The newer planned cycle would only have 40mg less anabolics (if you can consider methandriol an anabolic) per week, and more test which is good, so results shouldn't be very different between the two. Again, I think its just down to personal choice. Run the new compounds this cycle and the ester swap next cycle, or vice versa, depending which one sounds more exciting right now . I haven't used th tri-anabol, but I can tell you the supertest is a great product.