Everything you need to know about Clenbuterol

SuThy wrote: missed you all but kept on track reading all your interesting posts and watching your progress, congrats on the moderator status Pyro

Thanx bro!

I have a question about clen adn yohimbe
next month I'd like to take both, will be my 3rd time taking clen and first taking yohimbe
so now, my bodyfat right now is probably around 14-15% but I have shoulder,bicep,leg,calf and chest veins that are pretty visible. 2nd time on clen was middle of this year and I got headaches like mad and was tested for high blood pressure and it came out around 140/85 and 135/90 on the two different measurements.
so my questions are, do I need to monitor my blood pressure, Yesdoes it sound like it is high at the moment? It´s on the high side but not dangerous will yohimbe and clen make it higher? Yes also another question is what can I expect to experience on yohimbe? (eg. moderate energy / rush-like energy / increase/decrease in BP) Read the post on yohimbine, first page. oh and lastly, can one to fasted HIIT on clen? Absolutely not!

Hope that's not an overload of questions,
thanks guys and good to be back

Awesome. Thanks pyro.
I will monitor my BP next month before during and after the clen and yohimbe and hopefully it will not go too high
my cardio at the moment is 20 mins HIIT 3 mornings a week and then 30 mins post workout everyday, should I just change the HIIT to incline walking as well when I start the clen/yohimbe?

Just like that bro.

SuThy wrote: Awesome. Thanks pyro.
I will monitor my BP next month before during and after the clen and yohimbe and hopefully it will not go too high
my cardio at the moment is 20 mins HIIT 3 mornings a week and then 30 mins post workout everyday, should I just change the HIIT to incline walking as well when I start the clen/yohimbe?

20 min high intensity is a bit low in my opinion, push it up to 30min and drop post workout cardio to around 15-20 low intensity (I believe you do weight training). Furthermore cardio must always be low intensity while on clen/YHCL. Can't really do high intensity on a empty stomach (YHCL- insulin will hinder effects) Also take clen right after cardio if you want to be a bit safer, it will still be in your system from the previous day.

iMan wrote:

SuThy wrote: Awesome. Thanks pyro.
I will monitor my BP next month before during and after the clen and yohimbe and hopefully it will not go too high
my cardio at the moment is 20 mins HIIT 3 mornings a week and then 30 mins post workout everyday, should I just change the HIIT to incline walking as well when I start the clen/yohimbe?

20 min high intensity is a bit low in my opinion, push it up to 30min and drop post workout cardio to around 15-20 low intensity (I believe you do weight training). Furthermore cardio must always be low intensity while on clen/YHCL. Can't really do high intensity on a empty stomach (YHCL- insulin will hinder effects) Also take clen right after cardio if you want to be a bit safer, it will still be in your system from the previous day.

20 Mins of HIIT 3x a week burns twice the amount of fat in comparison to the person who jogs for an hour. I can only say this from my experience and some studies i have read on it. Not sure if it differs from person to person but imo and experience this is sufficient.

My que is..

would results be hindered if Clen is taken 1 day on and 1 off for cardio days? or is it using it daily without doing cardio more effective?

Ive used ECA 1 day off and 1 day on after about 2 weeks of continued use and it worked quite well, just wondering if the same can yield good results with clen?

Thanks

Liftmeister, You need to use clenbuterol continuously (no days off) for it to be effective. Also, you must use it to supplement your cardio, not to replace it.

Clen works with cardio bud. You will find you get very little results if you don´t do cardio.

Liftmeister wrote: My que is..

would results be hindered if Clen is taken 1 day on and 1 off for cardio days? or is it using it daily without doing cardio more effective?

Ive used ECA 1 day off and 1 day on after about 2 weeks of continued use and it worked quite well, just wondering if the same can yield good results with clen?

Thanks

Clen's lifespan is much longer than ECA, so you will still have it in your system the following morning. As Pyro said, cardio is good. At your previous statement, HIIT cardio might burn more calories, but this will target your glycogen more rather than fat. Also reason why I say is 20min is not enough, is because it's more about the "after burn" than the actual calorie burning.

Thanks for all the replies guys!!

So moderate cardio should be ok then seen that HIIT is too intense?

Im very "light on fuel" lol when it comes to stimulants hence all the ques!! as I said it took me 2 weeks on eca to taper up to 2 tabs a day unlike others I know, my heart beats like a mofo.. on eca the first time i took a whole tab i started jogging abit for about 5mins until i nearly fainted.. had to eat a chocolate to bring blood sugar levels to norm lol

Ill give this a shot with my anavar and proviron stack.. or shouldnt I?

Liftmeister wrote: Im very "light on fuel" lol when it comes to stimulants hence all the ques!! as I said it took me 2 weeks on eca to taper up to 2 tabs a day unlike others I know, my heart beats like a mofo.. on eca the first time i took a whole tab i started jogging abit for about 5mins until i nearly fainted.. had to eat a chocolate to bring blood sugar levels to norm lol

Ill give this a shot with my anavar and proviron stack.. or shouldnt I?

Yeah cool man. Don´t really understand what your sugar levels dropping has to do with ECA stack? lol

Pyroclasm wrote:

Liftmeister wrote: Im very "light on fuel" lol when it comes to stimulants hence all the ques!! as I said it took me 2 weeks on eca to taper up to 2 tabs a day unlike others I know, my heart beats like a mofo.. on eca the first time i took a whole tab i started jogging abit for about 5mins until i nearly fainted.. had to eat a chocolate to bring blood sugar levels to norm lol

Ill give this a shot with my anavar and proviron stack.. or shouldnt I?

Yeah cool man. Don´t really understand what your sugar levels dropping has to do with ECA stack? lol

You suma laugh at me lol

has abit of an impact because of the ephedrine yes.. see link -->> www.drugs.com/ephedrine.html

ECA Stack has no significant effect on blood glucose or insulin as seen in the study below.

Abstract

The safety and efficacy of a mixture of ephedrine (75-150mg), caffeine (150mg) and aspirin (330mg), in divided premeal doses, were investigated in 24 obese humans (mean BMI 37.0) in a randomized double blind placebo-controlled trial. Energy intake was not restricted. Overall weight loss over 8 weeks was 2.2kg for ECA vs. 0.7 kg for placebo (p < 0.05). 8 of 13 placebo subjects returned 5 months later and received ECA in an unblinded crossover. After 8 weeks, mean weight loss with ECA was 3.2 kg vs 1.3 kg for placebo (p = 0.036). 6 subjects continued on ECA for 7 to 26 months. After 5 months on ECA, average weight loss in 5 of these was 5.2 kg compared to 0.03 kg gained during 5 months between studies with no intervention (p = 0.03). The sixth subject lost 66 kg over 13 months by self-imposed caloric restriction. In all studies, no significant changes in heart rate, blood pressure, blood glucose, insulin, and cholesterol levels, and no differences in the frequency of side effects were found. ECA in these doses is thus well tolerated in otherwise healthy obese subjects, and supports modest, sustained weight loss even without prescribed caloric restriction, and may be more effective in conjunction with restriction of energy intake.

Study found here.

Pyroclasm wrote: ECA Stack has no significant effect on blood glucose or insulin as seen in the study below.

Abstract

The safety and efficacy of a mixture of ephedrine (75-150mg), caffeine (150mg) and aspirin (330mg), in divided premeal doses, were investigated in 24 obese humans (mean BMI 37.0) in a randomized double blind placebo-controlled trial. Energy intake was not restricted. Overall weight loss over 8 weeks was 2.2kg for ECA vs. 0.7 kg for placebo (p < 0.05). 8 of 13 placebo subjects returned 5 months later and received ECA in an unblinded crossover. After 8 weeks, mean weight loss with ECA was 3.2 kg vs 1.3 kg for placebo (p = 0.036). 6 subjects continued on ECA for 7 to 26 months. After 5 months on ECA, average weight loss in 5 of these was 5.2 kg compared to 0.03 kg gained during 5 months between studies with no intervention (p = 0.03). The sixth subject lost 66 kg over 13 months by self-imposed caloric restriction. In all studies, no significant changes in heart rate, blood pressure, blood glucose, insulin, and cholesterol levels, and no differences in the frequency of side effects were found. ECA in these doses is thus well tolerated in otherwise healthy obese subjects, and supports modest, sustained weight loss even without prescribed caloric restriction, and may be more effective in conjunction with restriction of energy intake.

Study found here.

Thanks Pyro

I've read this before yes.. Also read some other studies that suggested it does have an impact on BS
All I know is that the Choc worked, or maybe I was just craving sugar haha

I've received the Clen today from Oraltec @ 40mcg's per tab.. I'm assuming its good as per previous statements in this thread?

Also because I'm sensitive to stims as proven with the ECA few months ago let's say 60mcg's is the most I can go.. Will this be enough for the proper effect with Clen? Other than diet and training now.. Just mean dosage wise?

Thanks

Pleasure brother. Remember it is just one study and it is possible that you might have indeed had a blood sugar crash, but it is likely from another source and not the ECA stack.

Regarding stimulants, something I have noticed is that a person is sensitive to certain stimulants but not all. For example me, if you were to judge how sensitive I am to stimulants based on my reaction to caffeine, you would say I am super sensitive. But then I handle Clen and Yohimbine like a baws. So what I am saying is to try out the Clen and/or Yohimbine without any prejudices and see how you as an individual react to them. If you can handle the 60mcg like a baws then go up to 80mcg and don´t stress about it. With Clen you will not wonder if you can increase your dosage. Also know that the first couple of days on the low dosages you experience the most sides, especially shady fingers.

Oraltec Clen is power! Happy hunting.