00pump's Primo, Testocyp and Tbol Cycle..

It looks like you drink a lot of Redbull.

Ai, still giving Ron shit about his proud mane...


9.5% could be accurate I think. Looking good Ron. Aesthetic wooden floors.

Looking good Ron. Shave, Tan and you will look almost stage ready.

Furk wrote: Ai, still giving Ron shit about his proud mane...

Haha.. Furk, always have my back regarding my mane! thanks bru!

Thanks Oaks! and the mane stays! i'm NOT freaking shaving! lol, :lol: :lol: bad enough that some will go for the hernia op!

@ Oupa, thanks old man! highly doubt i'd be stage ready... :whistle: I think your glasses were missing when you looked at that pic! :lol: :lol:

Good morning oaks... as promised the reply from my surgeon regarding the op... i'm happy, i can now finish this cycle, have a successful PCT and then look to do it when it's not as risky and my blood and hormones are back to normal levels.

Smart doctor, what i'm more impressed about is that he consulted others too before making a call.

00pump wrote: Smart doctor, what i'm more impressed about is that he consulted others too before making a call.

Dude, love the way he says "on such a programme" and "After you are off all this stuff" :lol:

He's a legit guy! the type that just cares about saving a life and making sure there are zero risks. I totally trust the oak with my life!

Pump, bru, i'm thinking to pin prop100 at 200mg every 2nd day from this coming weekend [my last pin of primo and test cyp was this past Sunday] what you recon? overkill? and then I was thinking to stop the prop a week before PCT commences. would that be enough time? so like on the 22nd of Feb? so that's like 8 days.. PCT start date is the 2nd March. is that enough time?

My sex drive | libido has also changed a little in the last week. [not like it should be, its been consistent the entire cycle and its dropped now.. ] I have still been using HCG at 250iu's E2D.. check my balls and they are the perfect size and feel normal. started on 100mg of provirion.. so not sure why it's a bit flat. could it be the Anavar?

Should I also have some blood work done before I start PCT?

For interest sakes... I ran DAA (D aspartic acid) for most of my cycle at quite high doses [like 3 - 5g / day] and it made a huge difference, cause i stopped it a few weeks ago and i can feel it for sure.

The prop is completely up to your discretion, it might do something amazing, it might not. (I may even push your Libido up) / however, I'm not sure what could be dropping it, hCG (maybe).

Stopping prop a week before PCT might be a little too soon, maybe closer to 10 days prior to PCT.

When did you start the Proviron, how many days ago, that should surely boost it unless your estrogen is up a tad and hence it's not working the way it should.

With regards to blood's prior to PCT, I don't really believe it's required, it's going to be so off in so many ways that I wouldn't say it's needed.

Interesting regarding the DAA, I wouldn't have seen how it could benefit during a cycle, post cycle it would make sense, but then again I don't use supplements at all bar protein shake, so I have not spent much time reading in depth on DAA.

The hCG guidelines provided are simple just that, if you don't have raises and the size is pretty much normal then it's doing what it should, could you be taking to much or over stimulation due to the period of time (possible), should you carry on the hCG ? I don't see why not unless the sex drive is becoming a problem, are you going to have changes in libido during PCT? More than likely, in a good way? Maybe not, it could suppress for some time, everyone responds differently when coming off a cycle, but if your head is strong it will make all the difference, not allowing yourself to be controlled by hormone changes but in essence controlling yourself regardless in the shift that you will be going through.

Thanks so much for the reply bru! okay, i'm gonna bang this prop at 2ml every 2nd day then stop 10 days before PCT.
i'm wondering now if my E2 is not a little on the high side..?? i've been feeling abnormally emotional the past few days and nothing has changed in my life, in a way to make me feel this way. also a lot more agro the last two / three days.. nothing i cant manage, but i feel it hey.. i have adex.. you recon it wont harm to take a few drops for a few days?

i didn't have enough test cyp for my last two pins so i mixed what i had left with PGW supertest 320 I had over from a previous cycle. could also be the cause ^^^^^^ :blink:

I have been running the provirion at 40mg for the entire cycle. I have started at 100mg from today > split dose throughout the day.

regarding the DAA, i kinda just thought it would keep my balls alive and producing test.. i'd test it and for like a week take 5g every day and suddenly i'd be horny as hell and feel so different then i'd stop for a few days and feel a sharp decline.

Totally on your page regarding the PCT and being head strong... never had a bad PCT. and it's all because I make it good! eat clean, squat heavy, eat lots of protein and lots of natural supps to increase the test.. also thing that works best for me, is when your libido is low is to force the deed and as much as possible! makes a huge difference! maybe all in the head.. [excuse the pun! :lol:] but it really works.

100% there is many articles explaining that ones desire to not have sex can and does change when engaging in the act of love making.

The change to the SuperTest could have thrown you slightly off balance, can't be 100% sure, but it would make some sense.

My guess is the estrogen is to blame, using a couple drops of an AI might help.. The increase in Proviron could very well be linked to the increase in androgens / aggression.

All in all you on the right track, try the AI out, the shot of prop might show some aid too within a week or so and boost your libido if it is not E2 related.

00pump wrote: 100% there is many articles explaining that ones desire to not have sex can and does change when engaging in the act of love making.

The change to the SuperTest could have thrown you slightly off balance, can't be 100% sure, but it would make some sense.

My guess is the estrogen is to blame, using a couple drops of an AI might help.. The increase in Proviron could very well be linked to the increase in androgens / aggression.

All in all you on the right track, try the AI out, the shot of prop might show some aid too within a week or so and boost your libido if it is not E2 related.

Thanks Pump! thanks for your time bru. i'm gonna take a few drops of adex and see how i go. will report back if i need to.

Good morning guys..

Hope you are all well and moving forward.

Just wanna clarify my PCT protocol for this cycle..

So Wed this week is day 10 since my last Test Prop pin. So I will start Clomid on Wed @ 100mg / day for 7 days. I wanna take it at night before bed, is that okay? won't really matter right? cant remember but I think Pyro you mentioned you don't need to split the dose?

Then I need to just make sure of the HCG.. so I ran it during the cycle.. do I still run it after the Clomid at 500iu's every 2nd day, together with the Nolva?

Just an update on where I am at since my last post..

last few weeks since my last post have been insane. loved the pumps and vascularity. been off the Anavar for 10 days already and pumps and Vascularity are exactly the same, so i'm really happy with that. lots of comments and stares at the gym.. so either I look like a retard or i'm doing something right.. haha! :lol:

Appetite increased a lot since I stopped the Test Prop and Var. no lag in libido at all.. YET!! in fact it's better. so I dunno what's with that.

Here are a few up dated pics from like a week ago...,

Thank you so much to everyone for all your help and support... it's appreciated in a HUGE way.

Looking freaky.. well done bro. You followed things to the T so everything has worked the way it had for me while using that cycle. PCT is as described in the cycle post.

Next time you should post pics without a shirt on.

Nice work Ron, Lol :lol: @Pyro

Thanks so much Pump! Thanks for your advice and encouragement bru! i'd buy you some whey protein, but.... well..... yaaa!

So what you running now bru? what you rate at the moment? I'm thinking of my next cycle... lol!

I'm thinking along the lines of Equi and Test Cyp or just a very simple 6 weeks of Var and Test Prop. Still very undecided though. loved the Primo, but the cost is huge! Eish! :woohoo:

Thanks Pyro! love you long time my bru!! :kiss: :kiss:

Haha, all jokes aside...

Thanks for always helping a brother out Pyro! you seriously rock my man! maybe one day you'll come train with this old a.f man! :lol: grrrrr!

Howzit oaks...good morning!

I finished my PCT about two and a half weeks ago >> and it was super smooth with no issues at all.

I did some blood work on the weekend to see where my levels are and how I recovered after this cycle. I think it's also nice info for these interested in this cycle stack and perhaps anyone also being around my age to see how you could expect to recover.. I understand we are all unique, but it is always nice to compare.. these are the results..

To Follow..

Muscle Addict, if you see this post, how was my recovery for this cycle?

I think my Free Test could be a bit higher? like at least 590 - 650? but given that I only finished the PCT two and half weeks ago, it's probably not all that bad, right? I also think my E2 is a little on the higher end of the scale? Would you suggest I run an AI to bring that down a bit?

I have kept literally all my gains. I lost slightly during the middle of my PCT but i started a cycle of Cratine and i'm right back up to where I was before. just not as vascular.

Thanks for the update Ron.
Was wondering why you were so quiet lately... But life happens hey?

Rooi Bul 86 wrote: Thanks for the update Ron.
Was wondering why you were so quiet lately... But life happens hey?

haha!! thanks bru! yeah, just been 'lurking' when I have a gap.

But i'm already thinking about my next cycle. lol! i'm liking the thought of Deca NPP.. but not so sure yet. I dunno about these 19nor compounds at my age, so i'll see.

Nice to know i'm missed though.. hope you are good bud!