How to prevent injection pain

it'll give you some practice drawing from the vial too. although test is a lot thicker. i was practicing with b12 for a few months, by the time i got to my 1st pin i felt like a pro :lol:

rvp01 wrote: it'll give you some practice drawing from the vial too. although test is a lot thicker. i was practicing with b12 for a few months, by the time i got to my 1st pin i felt like a pro :lol:

haha sounds awesome, how much should i dose the b12 ?

1 ml once or twice a week. dont get b12 complex though. burns like hell, that shit will scare you away from pinning ha ha, go for regular b12. its like R25 for a 10ml vial

rvp01 wrote: 1 ml once or twice a week. dont get b12 complex though. burns like hell, that shit will scare you away from pinning ha ha, go for regular b12. its like R25 for a 10ml vial

good stuff, i'll start on it and let u know

i've seen guys that don't have pain when inject for exemple durateston
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so i did my first b12 injection yesterday, my hands were shacking i don't really know why

i was using a 1.25" 23G needle in the outer upper quad but i didn't put it all in just half of it and it felt like im injecting in a rubber ball, i did hit the muscle right? there is no pain,no redness,no swelling
only i've an annoying half headache right now but has this anything to do with the shot ?

it was weird feeling but i felt good after injecting myself don't know why :D

Opinions...?
I have used Axio's Testaplex E250 and it really buggered up my glut from the pain. Could not sit or sleep on it for about a week, this after drinking multiple cataflam tabs.
I have not experienced any pain like this from any other injections.
Could this be a dodgy vial or is it common test enanthate to do this?
Thinking about switching to PGW's Testen 300.

Id switch bud, its one of the main reasons why i left axio gear for pgw. It works well, but just way to much solvents used the discomfort actually impacted really negatively on my workouts so i tossed it and never looked back

Yeah aspoester, think I should rather go with PGW. The Axio is just too much of a pyn in die gat. lol

Great thread - pinning for the first time today (testc - quad) and to be honest am quite nervous. Only have 21 gauge but think I'll get some 23's and rather use the 21's to load. I also hope I don't forget to aspirate

Used testoviron instead of Axio's testaplex E250 - was like a kiss on the ass.

FatBoy wrote: Great thread - pinning for the first time today (testc - quad) and to be honest am quite nervous. Only have 21 gauge but think I'll get some 23's and rather use the 21's to load. I also hope I don't forget to aspirate

My donner, went with the 23 and the pin was painless, but a day later my quad feels like Pat Lambie used it as a kicking bag. No chance of doing legs after a pin for now. Not looking forward to the next one but will try and go a lot slower and take my time.

i've found a trick that also seems to work with injection pain, draw your oil into the syringe, draw some air, boil the kettle, and put the syringe in the steam coming out of the kettle,do this twice,i have done this with injection pain from injecting tren,mast and prop, all mixed and seemed to kill it....

Hi all

I need some advice please. I’m currently on a cycle where i am running PFP2FIFTY blend.

100mg/ml Testosterone Propionate
75mg/ml Drostanolone Propionate
75mg/ml Trenbolone Acetate

This stuff is incredible, has the worst pip ever. I am using 1ml EOD , but the lump and the pain it leaves behind last a week or more. I have even introduced some Deca 100 to try diluting the blend, so now I’m using 1ml pfp with 1 ml Deca 100 Eod. Still doesn’t help with the swelling/ lump. I am only 2 weeks into a planned 8 week cycle, but not sure how I am going to continue.

Any advice please.

Try heating your gear up. Warm water in a cup, drop the vial in for a couple a seconds.

Thanks to all, very informative thread.

I did my first pin Monday night with PGW testen 300mg/ml. Did 1 ml. Injection itself was painless.
Woke up next day, and was seriously looking for the oke that moered my quad with a baseball bat. Felt like massive "lammie" and limped. Wednesday it was better. Thursday is now okay, but must pin again tonight other quad.

Using 21G needles to draw up and 23 G to inject.

I have a couple of questions:
I know this is virgin muscles, but jeez it is poes sore. What is the correct way to heat it up and for how long? Dont want to destroy the hormone by putting it over steam or hot water.

Would it help if I take 1ml grape seed oil from dischem with the 1ml testen, will that lessen the pain?

I have tried the Z-track injection and it works beautifully, just that my leg was moertoe the next 2 days...
Any advice welcomme

Why dont you inject glutes? I find post injection pain is worse in quads than glutes.

Ps never do super test:p last week left me so sore that i couldn't put weight on my leg for about a week.

SV wrote:
I have a couple of questions:
I know this is virgin muscles, but jeez it is poes sore.

:lol: :lol:

Atleast you know you doing it correct ! Virgin muscle will settle after a while, first few times around was kak sore for about 4 days on each quad.

I rotate Delts and Glutes, i hold the syringe in the palm of my hand for a few seconds just to warm up a little..... give it a go, worked for me.

OR

Get your wife/girlfriend to inject, then blame her if it hurts :lol: <

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SV wrote: Thanks to all, very informative thread.

I did my first pin Monday night with PGW testen 300mg/ml. Did 1 ml. Injection itself was painless.
Woke up next day, and was seriously looking for the oke that moered my quad with a baseball bat. Felt like massive "lammie" and limped. Wednesday it was better. Thursday is now okay, but must pin again tonight other quad.

Using 21G needles to draw up and 23 G to inject.

I have a couple of questions:
I know this is virgin muscles, but jeez it is poes sore. What is the correct way to heat it up and for how long? Dont want to destroy the hormone by putting it over steam or hot water.

Would it help if I take 1ml grape seed oil from dischem with the 1ml testen, will that lessen the pain?

I have tried the Z-track injection and it works beautifully, just that my leg was moertoe the next 2 days...
Any advice welcomme

I would much rather inject in the glutes. Softer flesh, and if it hurts the next day you can still train. Use some cataflam next time it hurts like that.

I may get shot down for this, but let me say that this was my VERY last resort...

For some weird reason I was having a very adverse reaction to PGW tested 300 a while back. I did alot of research as to why, had a theory, made an ass of myself and spent a shit load at my doctor.

Every time I pinned a ml (vastus lateralis) my quad would swell tremendously and it was very warm to the touch.
Now I know it wasn't due to my technique so I automatically blamed the gear (bearing in mind that at the time this was my first experience using PGW).

Let me say that after weeks of perseverance and pain I went off it and put it in the cupboard. I switched to testoviron and pinning when back to normal with no pain. I continued researching as I really wanted to continue using PGW's testen because it was far more convenient for me having a higher concentrated compound at my disposal.

So my last resort....???

I grabbed a 23g pin; cut the plastic end off; sterilised the rest of the needle and stuck it in the vial; preheated the oven to 170ºC; placed my vial on a baking tray and put it in the oven for 7-10 min.

Now say what you want but I can confidently say that thereafter I had no pain whatsoever... and I continued through the rest of my vial with ease and experienced great gains. So I believe that I didn't alter the hormone in any way, I just got rid of some excess benzol alcohol which was giving me the pain imo.

SV imo, PGW's Testen is good shit. It's strong and highly concentrated and that's why it hits you hard. For some they have no trouble, but for others like you and I, well, we're just a little different I suppose....

Hope this helps somewhat.

Thanks for the tips guys.

I will try glutes etc, if all fails, i will put it in the oven as Moose suggested.

Lol oupa, goed om te weet ek doen dit reg!

okay, did a pin in left vastus lateralis muscle in Thursday and again huge swelling.

So this morning I drew up my mL, held it for a while over a boiling kettle so that the BA can evoporate.

Injected in right glurteas maximus. as always, no pain while injecting. No burning pain also after. Went to gym 30mins after pin and all was okay (did legs).

so far no stiffness or anything, so I think I will keep to making it a bit warm, inject and then gym thereafter so that the testen is spread more evenly throughout

Update.
Voel soos 'n moerse knop op my gat en hy is effens gevoelig. Nie so lam soos my quads was nie. Dink die gym het definitief gehelp. Sal kyk hoe dit aangaan met nog so paar pins...

Sal maar maak soos Moose gedoen het en die BA in die stoof laat verdamp