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j1pvt wrote: In the case of cjc + ipam + huperzine A.
(100mcg + 100mcg + 50ug 3 times daily.)

Is a 5 day on 2 day off protocol a sensible/common approach.?

No need to take time off GHRP/GHRH. There is no evidence of a negative feedback system, or GH receptor downregulation or increase in binding proteins when using ipam or cjc. Different story if you're using IGF1 or HGH.

j1pvt wrote: What say MA and PoisonedPulse...???

I've never used Huperzine A. Not sure hey. Price needs to come down quite a bit.

Muscleaddict wrote:

j1pvt wrote: What say MA and PoisonedPulse...???

I've never used Huperzine A. Not sure hey. Price needs to come down quite a bit.

Price def a problem. But when trying something new one tries to maximize the process. Quite a few write ups on hupA benefiting the cjc / Ipam combo.

Muscleaddict wrote:

j1pvt wrote: In the case of cjc + ipam + huperzine A.
(100mcg + 100mcg + 50ug 3 times daily.)

Is a 5 day on 2 day off protocol a sensible/common approach.?

No need to take time off GHRP/GHRH. There is no evidence of a negative feedback system, or GH receptor downregulation or increase in binding proteins when using ipam or cjc. Different story if you're using IGF1 or HGH.

I must agree on experience, I never had had any loss in potency or results as time progressed while using this combo, always felt great, fat loss and recovery were constant right through out my peptide cycle...

Iv actually just started ipam/cjc combo again

j1pvt wrote:

Muscleaddict wrote:

j1pvt wrote: What say MA and PoisonedPulse...???

I've never used Huperzine A. Not sure hey. Price needs to come down quite a bit.

Price def a problem. But when trying something new one tries to maximize the process. Quite a few write ups on hupA benefiting the cjc / Ipam combo.

Yes, it is definitely beneficial and it's a bonus that its legal over the counter but the guys in the USA and Europe are getting it so cheap that it is worthwhile. With the prices here I reckon you'd benefit more from using the cash for 4x a day ghrp/ghrh shots instead of 3x a day. Huperzine A has been around for a while now, and what I gathered is that if it was so great there would be more positive feedback by now from bodybuilders. But I haven't researched it much. Just my 2c.

PoisonedPulse wrote:

Muscleaddict wrote:

j1pvt wrote: In the case of cjc + ipam + huperzine A.
(100mcg + 100mcg + 50ug 3 times daily.)

Is a 5 day on 2 day off protocol a sensible/common approach.?

No need to take time off GHRP/GHRH. There is no evidence of a negative feedback system, or GH receptor downregulation or increase in binding proteins when using ipam or cjc. Different story if you're using IGF1 or HGH.

I must agree on experience, I never had had any loss in potency or results as time progressed while using this combo, always felt great, fat loss and recovery were constant right through out my peptide cycle...

Iv actually just started ipam/cjc combo again

Very glad to hear this from both of you, no more off days for me then.

Muscleaddict wrote:

j1pvt wrote:

Muscleaddict wrote:

j1pvt wrote: What say MA and PoisonedPulse...???

I've never used Huperzine A. Not sure hey. Price needs to come down quite a bit.

Price def a problem. But when trying something new one tries to maximize the process. Quite a few write ups on hupA benefiting the cjc / Ipam combo.

Yes, it is definitely beneficial and it's a bonus that its legal over the counter but the guys in the USA and Europe are getting it so cheap that it is worthwhile. With the prices here I reckon you'd benefit more from using the cash for 4x a day ghrp/ghrh shots instead of 3x a day. Huperzine A has been around for a while now, and what I gathered is that if it was so great there would be more positive feedback by now from bodybuilders. But I haven't researched it much. Just my 2c.

I hear you, going to see what the exact landed cost from us will be but going to drop it after solal is finished otherwise.

Muscleaddict wrote:

j1pvt wrote:

Muscleaddict wrote:

j1pvt wrote: What say MA and PoisonedPulse...???

I've never used Huperzine A. Not sure hey. Price needs to come down quite a bit.

Price def a problem. But when trying something new one tries to maximize the process. Quite a few write ups on hupA benefiting the cjc / Ipam combo.

Yes, it is definitely beneficial and it's a bonus that its legal over the counter but the guys in the USA and Europe are getting it so cheap that it is worthwhile. With the prices here I reckon you'd benefit more from using the cash for 4x a day ghrp/ghrh shots instead of 3x a day. Huperzine A has been around for a while now, and what I gathered is that if it was so great there would be more positive feedback by now from bodybuilders. But I haven't researched it much. Just my 2c.

And that brings up another interesting point MA, I see a large gap during the day where one could fit in another 1 or 2 shots/gh pulse... theres around 7 to 8 hours between waking and working out that could be utilized for a good pulse, depending on your meal routine. Its obviously going to be more expensive but would be interesting to try.

@j1pvt, keep me posted.

I just wanna get a feel for what the the guys are using to supress somatostatin. The majority of the acetylcholinesterase inhibitors are schedule 4 and above and that's a bit difficult to get hold of without a script.

Any comments welcome.

Regards.

Just received my Ipan/Cjc combo today ( 3 times a day usage). Also got my IGf1 Lr3 10 vials .after reading through this thread , learned timing is everything . So need to know if taking Lr3 post w.o . As recommended how should I also time my ipan/cjc pins also post w.o as recomended . Sounds to me that this will cancel each other out .

Will b running super test / Deca for 10 weeks while on ipan/cjc & lr3 .
Or should I just save the lr3 for my bridge ?

Very good topic to read... thx gents.

Question...

Would i be correct in saying that a female +- 45 can use 100mcg ipam once a day to "assist" with anti aging ?

Oupa wrote: Very good topic to read... thx gents.

Question...

Would i be correct in saying that a female +- 45 can use 100mcg ipam once a day to "assist" with anti aging ?

Yes, go with 1mg/Kg of bodyweight along with the same amount of CJC1295 w/o DAC. It is WAY more effective than using ipamorelin on it's own. 50mg ipam + 50mg CJC is probably 50% more effective than 100mg of just ipam.

Big G wrote: Just received my Ipan/Cjc combo today ( 3 times a day usage). Also got my IGf1 Lr3 10 vials .after reading through this thread , learned timing is everything . So need to know if taking Lr3 post w.o . As recommended how should I also time my ipan/cjc pins also post w.o as recomended . Sounds to me that this will cancel each other out .

Will b running super test / Deca for 10 weeks while on ipan/cjc & lr3 .
Or should I just save the lr3 for my bridge ?

Have you only got enough ipam/cjc to run until your bridge?

Oupa wrote: Very good topic to read... thx gents.

Question...

Would i be correct in saying that a female +- 45 can use 100mcg ipam once a day to "assist" with anti aging ?

Personally I feel your going to have a very long and frustrating wait to see any significant difference on Ipam once a day, Im 45 myself and the body doesnt respond like a 20 something year olds anymore, I would def say cjc + Ipam @ 3 times a day.
And you will see benefit, but its slow and steady.

At M.A .
Yes I do have enough ipam/cjc to last me 5months .
Are u against taking both the ipam/cjc & lr3 ?
I figure it can work , just the timing has to be spot on to get the maximum results .

Hi all,
I'm on week 5 at the mo and Ive noticed a Slow progressive tapering off of libido, and some unbearably sleepy times during the day...
Libido is now really flat lining... All other results from cjc/ipam good tho.
I'm not taking anything else at the mo that could be interfering , so Im stumped for an answer..
One thing that occurred to me is the fact that any gh release will probably have an effect on your GABA neurotransmitters..and this might in turn effect/ lower your dopamine neurotransmitters, and that could cause a libido drop.
Can't prove this as I haven't done test bloods but its a theory.
Anyone have any further insights/ experiences..??

No, you mixing up neurotransmitters and hormones... Read this.. This is the easiest way to explain the difference. Also I think confusing the effect of GABA on hGH levels and not the other way around. Also hGH does have an effect on dopamine levels, but only the excessive release of it. You last thing you want to do is be walking around with increased dopamine levels for long periods of time and land up with parkinson's / being on high alert constantly can lead to anxiety and the list really does go on . However there is a big relation towards dopamine and prolactin levels, so I would research the effects of bromocriptine and dopamine levels. However, again this isn't something anyone here is qualified to answer bar the Doc, and never on hear say, only with proper tests being done..

One thing I can tell you, which I have not furthered researched is a comment my cardiologist made to me, and that when using hGH you are going to need to constantly use hGH (this is for it's youthful effects, not talking about muscle building here), and he claimed that you will get a rapid increase in aging when stopped.

www.vpxsports.com/article-detail/drugs/g...-to-death-in-athlete

Makes you think I guess.

I had an argument last night about dose and shit with friends. 100cmg Imp and 100mcg cjc wo DAC. Whats the UI with 1ml syringe for cjc and ui. 20units, 0.2ml v 100mcg per peptide ?

Yes, it will be 20IU when you have 100mcg of each peptide in the syringe.

Could you do 100mcg of ipamorelin and cjc 3 times a day & somatropin at a low dose of say 3-4iu a day. Somatropin is to pricey to do 8iu a day.

6+6+6 wrote: Could you do 100mcg of ipamorelin and cjc 3 times a day & somatropin at a low dose of say 3-4iu a day. Somatropin is to pricey to do 8iu a day.

Yes you can use both but the timing of injections is important. The ipam/cjc won't be able to create a decent GH pulse if the exogenous HGH is still present.

If you want to do the HGH once a day split the other peptides 3x a day (morning, post workout, before bed) and then do the 3 or 4IU HGH 15 minutes after your bedtime CJC/ipam shot. Do the HGH intramuscular so that it can clear within about 8 hours. SubQ take too long to clear and will interfere with your morning ipam/cjc shot.

If you want to split the HGH to 2IU twice a day. Do the one shot as above before bed, and the other 2IU in the morning 15 minutes after your ipam/cjc. But wait at least 8 hours before doing your next ipam/cjc shot.

Muscleaddict wrote:

6+6+6 wrote: Could you do 100mcg of ipamorelin and cjc 3 times a day & somatropin at a low dose of say 3-4iu a day. Somatropin is to pricey to do 8iu a day.

Yes you can use both but the timing of injections is important. The ipam/cjc won't be able to create a decent GH pulse if the exogenous HGH is still present.

If you want to do the HGH once a day split the other peptides 3x a day (morning, post workout, before bed) and then do the 3 or 4IU HGH 15 minutes after your bedtime CJC/ipam shot. Do the HGH intramuscular so that it can clear within about 8 hours. SubQ take too long to clear and will interfere with your morning ipam/cjc shot.

If you want to split the HGH to 2IU twice a day. Do the one shot as above before bed, and the other 2IU in the morning 15 minutes after your ipam/cjc. But wait at least 8 hours before doing your next ipam/cjc shot.

Thanks MA, your a legend!

Out of interest, How long does it take it take to clear if done sub q compared to intramuscular. I remember reading it somewhere, but I can't find it now.

It takes a few hours longer. Subq HGH levels peak about an hour after IM shots. Hard to say exactly as the dose you're using also makes a difference to how long it takes for HGH levels to return to baseline.