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10 Aug 2012 00:25 #117139 by PoisonedPulse
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ABC01 wrote: So i started my Ipamorelin journey last night at 100mcg pre bed. I have read that you experience the deep sleep benefit from 1st injection and i must say for me that was true. Slept like a dead man for almost 9hrs without interuption. Last time i did that was during varsity when the lunch bell use to wake me in the res.

One other thing i noticed was the constant intense dreaming. Very realistic and kinda freaky to be honest. Lets see if tonight is the same


im very interested to see your progress bro, iv got ipamorelin and cjc in mind.. but im looking at it for more the healing purposes for my shoulder as over time could def help aswell as the benefit of fat lose and lean gains will be a bonus, are you only running a pre bed saturation dose? or you going to taper up to pre/pwo and mornings? and how long are you going to cycle it?

im thinking of saving up while i research, give myself a few months to get cash for atleast a 4-6 month cycle, in that time i can research some more,

i see you registeded on datbtrue aswelll, crazy amounts of information on there! :pinch:

good luck with the cycle and please keep me updated

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10 Aug 2012 00:39 - 10 Aug 2012 00:40 #117142 by Muscleaddict
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I thought this was quite interesting, for the guys thinking of doing ipamorelin/mod grf 1-29, a guy on another forum (primordial performance) who was diagnosed by an endocrinologist with low HGH/IGF1 had some bloodwork done before and 5 days after finishing just one 2mg vial of ipam & mod grf 1-29 which he used for only 10 days, 2x 100mcg shots a day of each peptide. Note that the test was 5 days after he'd stopped taking the peptides.

Before: IGF1 levels- 72 ng/ml
5 days after: IGF1 levels- 338ng/ml
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10 Aug 2012 10:45 - 10 Aug 2012 10:48 #117190 by ABC01
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ABC01 wrote: So i started my Ipamorelin journey last night at 100mcg pre bed. I have read that you experience the deep sleep benefit from 1st injection and i must say for me that was true. Slept like a dead man for almost 9hrs without interuption. Last time i did that was during varsity when the lunch bell use to wake me in the res.

One other thing i noticed was the constant intense dreaming. Very realistic and kinda freaky to be honest. Lets see if tonight is the same


im very interested to see your progress bro, iv got ipamorelin and cjc in mind.. but im looking at it for more the healing purposes for my shoulder as over time could def help aswell as the benefit of fat lose and lean gains will be a bonus, are you only running a pre bed saturation dose? or you going to taper up to pre/pwo and mornings? and how long are you going to cycle it?

im thinking of saving up while i research, give myself a few months to get cash for atleast a 4-6 month cycle, in that time i can research some more,

i see you registeded on datbtrue aswelll, crazy amounts of information on there! :pinch:

good luck with the cycle and please keep me updated


Hey Bud! I am also using the Ipa for recovery purposes. My knees are killing me and i hope that will help. Left shoulder is also slightly lagging because of old injury. I will be running Ipa only pre bed for a week or 2 and then move to pre workout dosing as well. My workout is early in the morning and fasted so i guess the pre workout dosing would help allot with oxidation of fatty acids.

After 2 months i will maybe add CJC 1295 without DAC. But if by that time i start to get a significant effect with just the Ipa i will continue with only that. Current plan is running this for 6 months and then make a call.

Last night i slept amazingly well again. So deep that you get that "deur die kak" look and feeling when you get up. What i noticed yesterday, during the day, was that i was calmer than usual. Don't know if it was lazyness or calmness but i like ;)
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10 Aug 2012 10:53 #117191 by Essie
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Wow! See, now I can't wait for my source to get stock of the peptides again! I broke my back 4wks ago in a m/cycle accident and was looking at peptides to assist with the healing process. Initially looked at tb-500 ... Very expensive. So I started searching around and found that Ipam works well, but even better when combined with mod-grf ... So,I NEED to get me some!!!!!

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10 Aug 2012 11:12 #117198 by ABC01
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Essie wrote: Wow! See, now I can't wait for my source to get stock of the peptides again! I broke my back 4wks ago in a m/cycle accident and was looking at peptides to assist with the healing process. Initially looked at tb-500 ... Very expensive. So I started searching around and found that Ipam works well, but even better when combined with mod-grf ... So,I NEED to get me some!!!!!


Jeez! That is a serious injury! You can only benefit from running these peptides. You need to keep a log when you start. You will be a great candidate to see how peptides assist in rehabilitation of a serious injury. All the best!

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10 Aug 2012 11:44 #117210 by Essie
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ABC01 wrote:

Essie wrote: Wow! See, now I can't wait for my source to get stock of the peptides again! I broke my back 4wks ago in a m/cycle accident and was looking at peptides to assist with the healing process. Initially looked at tb-500 ... Very expensive. So I started searching around and found that Ipam works well, but even better when combined with mod-grf ... So,I NEED to get me some!!!!!


Jeez! That is a serious injury! You can only benefit from running these peptides. You need to keep a log when you start. You will be a great candidate to see how peptides assist in rehabilitation of a serious injury. All the best!

Ja Bud ... I was almost 'in my moer in' ... Dr reckons that the size, strength and density of my back muscles is what I have to thank for not being in a wheelchair, or in a grave. So training has more benefits than what the average reckons.

Ag Boet ... If I can just get confirmation of stock arrival then I am going to junp right on the bandwagon and I'll start a log as soon as I start my first pin.

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11 Aug 2012 14:27 #117456 by Michael
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how much Ipamorelin and CJC-1295 2mg vials would you basically need to run a 3month course?

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11 Aug 2012 15:35 #117465 by PoisonedPulse
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If I worked out correctly, in my head quick, its about 15 of each, using a rough figure of 30 days in a month, one would last u 6.1 days, and +- 5 vials a month, then over 3 months would be your 15, :) I worked on a figure for 30 of each for my 6 month cycle I wanna do in a few months, and its a pretty penny to do:( haha
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20 Aug 2012 09:49 #118832 by PoisonedPulse
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ABC01 wrote: So i started my Ipamorelin journey last night at 100mcg pre bed. I have read that you experience the deep sleep benefit from 1st injection and i must say for me that was true. Slept like a dead man for almost 9hrs without interuption. Last time i did that was during varsity when the lunch bell use to wake me in the res.

One other thing i noticed was the constant intense dreaming. Very realistic and kinda freaky to be honest. Lets see if tonight is the same


howzit bud! hows the ipam going to far??

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21 Aug 2012 15:37 #119057 by Muscleaddict
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PoisonedPulse wrote:

ABC01 wrote: So i started my Ipamorelin journey last night at 100mcg pre bed. I have read that you experience the deep sleep benefit from 1st injection and i must say for me that was true. Slept like a dead man for almost 9hrs without interuption. Last time i did that was during varsity when the lunch bell use to wake me in the res.

One other thing i noticed was the constant intense dreaming. Very realistic and kinda freaky to be honest. Lets see if tonight is the same


howzit bud! hows the ipam going to far??


Bump!

ABC01 Any feedback on the ipamorelin 14 days in? I'm also mainly looking to use it for recovery purposes. My old injuries always seem to get in the way.

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21 Aug 2012 17:10 - 21 Aug 2012 21:45 #119070 by PoisonedPulse
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likewise MA, none the less iv started saving haha, looking at a 6month cycle, 300mcg of each daily, i was bored so i did some math, 547.5 pins in total for those 6 months haha :whistle:

like i mentioned in another thread, i wanna fit two short cycles in that 6 month period, you said you wanted a similar idea, what were your options for the cycles bud??
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21 Aug 2012 17:12 #119071 by gorilla
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Ive been on ghrp6, 500mcg daily for like two months now, appetite is through the roof and my shoulder click is gone! Been on test for 6 weeks, with superdrol from week 3 or 4, and weight is up by 7kgs!!

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25 Aug 2012 19:49 #119714 by ABC01
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Short feedback on my Ipamorelin use: today is day 18 so it is very early but i can give the following feedback for sure:

Main goal: Old shoulder injury recovery and helping with my knees that has gone to shit on recent cycle. Do not experience any shoulder pain while pushing weights but left shoulder is still weaker than right so injury has def not recovered yet. Knees are still a bitch during training but don't experience much pain afterwards.

Other effects: I sleep like a dead man. Even during short 30min powernaps i sometimes take in the afternoon i hit deep sleep. I have a better general sense of well-being and seem to be much calmer. I normally am aggitated person.

I still only pin 100mcg before bed. Even just for the quality sleep and sense of well being it is worth it for me at this stage
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25 Aug 2012 21:03 #119715 by AE
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So you are only on the ipamorelin? not the CJC etc.

I will get this just for sleep cause at the moment I struggle to sleep for longer than 3 hours!

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26 Aug 2012 10:32 #119723 by ABC01
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AE wrote: So you are only on the ipamorelin? not the CJC etc.

I will get this just for sleep cause at the moment I struggle to sleep for longer than 3 hours!


Just the Ipa! The Ipa and CJC give a higer spike but i do not see the need for me at this stage. Maybe later i will add. Don't know if Ipa will make you sleepy. I think it just promotes deep sleep when you do sleep. But i guess the calming effect that it has does help me fall asleep.

You can try and supplement with L glycine pre bed. There are studies showing great effect on patients that struggles with anxiety issues. This could help with the anxiety issues associated with sleeplessness or struggling to sleep. People also use it pre big meetings or job interviews where nerves might be a issue. Works like a charm it seems. I am looking to try some but can't find it in bulk raw form. I see Solal has a product called "natural sleep". It contains the clinically proven amount of L glycine (3g) that induces the calming effect. Taking it under the tongue has a quicker effect than drinking it

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26 Aug 2012 11:55 #119734 by AE
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Thanks ABC! I think it will work great for me. Don't have trouble falling asleep but no deep sleep. I wake up after 2-3 hours then can't sleep for about an hour or more so if this will help me fall into deep sleep and not wakeup when a bird shits outside my window I will buy 6months stock because I don't like taking sleeping pills and they do nt work for me.

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26 Aug 2012 12:51 #119739 by gorilla
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4ml GABA + 4ml Glycine pre bed with a melatonin cap or two! Solid sleep!!

At the moment I do 4ml GABA and 100mcg ghrp6 at about 21:30, then at 22:00 ill have a shake and a banana and go to bed....Sleep like a mofo!

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26 Aug 2012 13:18 #119742 by ABC01
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AE wrote: Thanks ABC! I think it will work great for me. Don't have trouble falling asleep but no deep sleep. I wake up after 2-3 hours then can't sleep for about an hour or more so if this will help me fall into deep sleep and not wakeup when a bird shits outside my window I will buy 6months stock because I don't like taking sleeping pills and they do nt work for me.


Cool! Don't stock up on 6 months just yet. Get enough for a month or 2 and see how your body reacts. I have come accross reviews where people actually have sleeping issues on GHRP 6 and 2 but not so much Ipamorelin. These case are few and far between though. I suggest you get the Solal natural sleep a go as well and see how that goes for 1 month. Since i started the Ipa i have not touched the Ivedal in my bedside drawer

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12 Sep 2012 14:52 #121890 by Muscleaddict
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ABC01, you must be around 5 weeks in on your ipamorelin? Any feedback worth mentioning?

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12 Sep 2012 17:08 #121949 by AE
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Yes I would also like to know.
Maybe he went into such a deep sleep and still not awake yet!

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15 Sep 2012 09:28 #122290 by ABC01
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Update on my Ipamorelin experience: I will be finishing my 2nd bottle tomorrow so that would be around 40 days on ipa. There is a def improvement in my old shoulder injury. My knees (the main reason for taking it) still kills me during workout although bit better than it use to be.

-In the last 2 weeks i noticed some strength increase in all muscle groups except chest.
-Still enjoy the sleep benefits
-Can't help but wonder if the possible gyno symptoms i had lately (post pct) has got something to do with the ipa
-I have gone up from 78kg to 79.5kg. I notice allot of water retention specially in mid ab section. Bodyfat still at 10% luckily. I did up my daily cal intake by 400 a month ago
-Currently only pin 100mcg before bed. Have pinned in morning before fasted cardio a couple of times but find that it makes me extremely sleepy/lazy the rest of the day
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15 Sep 2012 14:52 #122312 by Ontong
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@ABC01, please continue posting your findings. I personally have never used peptides before therefore I am keen in your findings and results.

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17 Sep 2012 13:44 #122461 by big jay
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Hey guys, iam using a few of these peptides, i want to know if i can mix them into one shot, like ghrp6,hexarelin,and malanatan2, maybe MA could help with this one. Thanks :-)

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17 Sep 2012 14:39 #122470 by Muscleaddict
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big jay wrote: Hey guys, iam using a few of these peptides, i want to know if i can mix them into one shot, like ghrp6,hexarelin,and malanatan2, maybe MA could help with this one. Thanks :-)


I'm very new to the GHRP/GHRH game as well bro. I start next week with ipamorelin and cjc1295 w/o dac 3x a day.

The consensus seems to be that it's ok to draw into the same syringe for your injection but not for storage.

What all are you using?

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17 Sep 2012 15:13 #122479 by big jay
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Ok thanks was just worried about the chains, hexarelin200mcg bed,with 100mcg ghrp6,and another 1 ghrp in morning, going to add cjc too, whats the difference between the hex and ipam? if you mix them with ghrp makes them so strong pulse. With you ipam u pinning morning,30min before train,bed? Thanks

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