So it begins ...

Hey 12 boxes is a good run,I think most have inflated expectations when it comes to gh,I view it as the cherry on top,nothing more nothing less.but you mentioned nothing really went your way ?

Lol why we scaring you ?

Gearedup wrote:

thank you, funny thing you mention that, i was lying in bed thinking of spike last night .............

Hahaha, oh were you now? I find I have that effect on people

But seriously, ya thats what was concerning me... Pain, numbness and other sensations in the extremities is always the first sign of diabetic neuropathy, and you dont want that. I think do as pump suggests and check your glucose regularily, as running high is what would cause nerve and blood vessel damage

Will start using again,I used to check before shot 20min later etc till it cleared then just got used to rthe sensations when it dropped etc.

Ok onto gh,today I can't close my hand at all its no longer just tight,once I get to 3/4 of the way its impossible and then my wrists aches like I have sprained them.so will be forced to lower dose,tight hands I can live with but on so much test can't live with hands that can't close.this I believe is very common and is the result of water applying pressure to the carpel tunnel thingy.

ok dj and other peeps, would it be possible to safely increase t3 to 50mcg a day while on slin. ?

i am up a few kilo's but i am worried about excess fat gain and hoping a slight boost in t3 will help keep it at bay ?

weight now 104kg

yea it will be fine dude..

Gearedup wrote:

ok dj and other peeps, would it be possible to safely increase t3 to 50mcg a day while on slin. ?

i am up a few kilo's but i am worried about excess fat gain and hoping a slight boost in t3 will help keep it at bay ?

weight now 104kg

what height are you?

5ft 11

You pretty heavy then...

00pump wrote:

You pretty heavy then...

not heavy enough

are we ever?

I went up from 67 to 120+ and it wasn't big enough, I dropped down to around 92 - 5% body fat 2 years ago after not training for a year / 2 years for health issues, now up at 110kgs and growing.. will finish my cycle at around 115/117...

its a disease i tell you, but very uncomfortable today, i really feel the few kilos i have gained, coupled with my now claw like hands , i am pretty sure its a decent amount of water lol but heaviest i have been in a while so when the tide subsides should be heavier.

00pump wrote:

I went up from 67 to 120+ and it wasn't big enough, I dropped down to around 92 - 5% body fat 2 years ago after not training for a year / 2 years for health issues, now up at 110kgs and growing.. will finish my cycle at around 115/117...

wow , not sure on your height but similar story and goals, started around 65kg, went to around 105kg at lowish bf, probably round 7-8percent being optimistic, stopped training but went the other way to 110kg fat probably round 26-27 percent bf. dieted down to 93kg 11-12 percent (optimistically again) now back up to 104kg , but i am sure now around 13-15 % bf (being optimistic lol) aiming for 110kg if i can keep my bf round the 15-16% mark will be happy, then diet back down to 100-102 leanish.

then start all over again and aim for 115 etc.

im 6'3

jaa, im going to end this cycle now and clean up for around a year or two, just continue to use growth... growth doesn't need 'juice' to make you big, it just speeds up the process. but new cells will grow with a proper diet and proper training scheme. Next time I go on gear will probabbly be HRT and EQ / Anavar / Masteron + HCG cycle. Only looking to do another cycle in a very long time, my body is screaming out to me for a long break.

Thing is to get the mind right to come off a cycle and train hard for a year without gear.. hmmm, will work with DJ and see what I can do natrually.

Gearedup wrote:

...Ok onto gh,today I can't close my hand at all its no longer just tight,once I get to 3/4 of the way its impossible and then my wrists aches like I have sprained them.so will be forced to lower dose,tight hands I can live with but on so much test can't live with hands that can't close.this I believe is very common and is the result of water applying pressure to the carpel tunnel thingy.

Exactly my scenario. Only way out is to drop the dose till it goes away and then slowly increase to find the upper limit. I googled this to death and nowhere could i find any other remedy.

Jackrabbit ,also been trying to find out because other than saving a few rand I am loath to drop dosage.was hoping I could just ride it out till body adjusts but that's looking slim now.its better during the day but late night and early morning its really uncomfortable.

I am similar to you pump,hate coming off.must admit my body is hammered after 15 weeks eq test and now 10 weeks odd tren ace ed and test,but I am not coming off per se,dropping to cruise mode of 300mg test a week for 6 to 8 weeks then back on heavy cycle.but will see how my body is holding up,in no rush,I am sure the gh slin hrt combo will be sufficient to keep me improving while "off" lol

How are you finding your gh experience so far ?

well not feeling as uncomfortable as yesterday, thought my body was going to burst again. hands the same, thankfully haven't got worse . gained 1" on arms which i am happy about, bi's one of my weak points so have been working hard on them.

diet is all over the place, i am hitting my macro's dj, but having insane cravings which usually results in me eating rubbish over and above my eating plan lol this seems to be way to often every second day or so. with moving my training to late morning / lunch time , i am relying alot on shakes the first 3/4 of the day, but trying to make up with solid food getting in at least 2-3 solid meals later in the day.

Strange hey, but I have never suffered one side of GH in my life.. Only ever had a positive outcome off it. Every other drug however I suffer the full wrath of it, if it says seldome you will experience XYZ, I experience it

lol your either very lucky or very pregnant :laugh:

hahaa... my body fat is quite low, maybe yours is circulation issue

Im so prone to gyno that I would know right away if I have taken HCG or HGH..

i am also gyno prone, messed up alot when i was younger , so saving up for surgery once and for all

ive had surgery before and its back, going again probabbly in 3 months... must finish the cycle and wait for levels to get 'stable' then go again.

00pump wrote:

ive had surgery before and its back, going again probabbly in 3 months... must finish the cycle and wait for levels to get 'stable' then go again.

it came back ? i was under the impression once removed they removed it completely so you wouldnt suffer from it again ?

what did they charge if i may ask and was it one side or both ?

both sides, quite bad... naaa, it's impossible it will allways come back... the surgeon told me the gland is the entire pec, you can't cut the 'gland' out... well you can cut the 'gland (gyno)' out but if you take to much test it will come back and back and back... the only way for it never to come back is to make sure you don't agrovate it.. right now I am on a cycle, eq, anavar, masteron, gh, and I was taking test, but the test was making the gyno to bad, I was using 900, dropped to 600 then to 300 then off.