Pre-workout supps and PUMP!!!

I would like to know which pre-workout supp has given you the best pump while working out? I have used almost all the supps except for muscle marinade and want to know if it is worth it?

and has anyone used ultimate health chemical-x? been hearing a lot of good things about it

Hi Machine

I bought Evox 3DT and tried it for the first time on Sunday. It gave an awesome pump, muscles felt hard and full. I don't normally take a pre workout, that was the first time ever but results pretty good. They compare it to Jak3d but definitly can't take it in the evening makes you wired :woohoo:

Best pump ever a combo of Andro-ST and Contact

N.O Explode and Shotgun are the most effective from my experience. And arn't pricey at all.

Not pricey? Those two are probably the most expensive on the market apart from animal products haha. I have used both and I'm sorry but I get better results of jack3d and ganic-f haha.. Shotgun was nearly R600 and all it did was make me feel like I was on drugs, and made me shit every workout. Pre workouts are very individual based, as you said. Ganic for pump was insane. My skin would be uncomfortably tight to the point where if I needed to scratch my neck or something I'd have to ask my partner tastes like ass though.

I have only used Jack3D and now Im on NO explode. I have to admit, the Jack3D worked better for me. The NO Explode makes my stomach work everytime right before workout. My next pre-workout will be Muscle Marinade. Heard it works well but tastes kak.

roger wrote: I have only used Jack3D and now Im on NO explode. I have to admit, the Jack3D worked better for me. The NO Explode makes my stomach work everytime right before workout. My next pre-workout will be Muscle Marinade. Heard it works well but tastes kak.

Some guys hate the taste of MM, I personally don't mind it. I find the taste (grape MM) is very similar to the Jack3D grape flavour. The Jack3D passion punch is my favourite flavour but MM definately gives me more energy.

Jack3d and Shotgun did absolutely nothing for me. SSN CreaPump gives a good pump, but not much focus and intensity. Tried Evox 3DT yesterday and it was great, good pump but the focus was great. The best part of it was I won like a month's supply

what is the best brand of pure beta-alanine?

hahaha, yea actually kinda pricey. X plode isnt that pricey tho and it works like a charm. Different strokes for different folks tho. Warning : tastes like ass . lol

Oats and Raisins.

Yes it doesn't give me the focus but it gave me a great pump.

I have used Jack3d MM, SSN Creapump, and SPS No .
They all gave me the energy to complete great workouts.
But none of them gave me the same pump as the oats and raisins.
And there is no crash afterwards.
MM makes me works so hard that I feel so run down afterwards and for some reason it suppresses my apatite.

Hi DesertFox,

Do you mean just normal Oats and Raisins?
How do they increase your pump so much?

Desertfoxza wrote: Oats and Raisins.

Yes it doesn't give me the focus but it gave me a great pump.

I have used Jack3d MM, SSN Creapump, and SPS No .
They all gave me the energy to complete great workouts.
But none of them gave me the same pump as the oats and raisins.
And there is no crash afterwards.
MM makes me works so hard that I feel so run down afterwards and for some reason it suppresses my apatite.

You can always do what Koe007 does and make a blend of Niacin, Beta Alanine, raisins and oats as a pre-workout apparently it works quite insanely, haven't got round to trying it myself tho.

Yes just plain old Oats and Raisins
I read a post on the forum called Att: Koe007
And on that same day I read on BB.com what your body needs for a good pump, because I just did not get any notable pumps since Feb, About the Time I started to drop carbs after 13:00.
Now I eat my oats at 16:00 raisins @ 16:30 and hit the gym @ 17:00 great pump ever since.

www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson161.htm
"[ Q ] What are some of the ways a person can achieve a good pump?

One word: carbohydrates! Complex to be specific - baked, frozen French fries, baked potatoes, yams, brown rice, pasta, and whole grain bread work best. This is because carbohydrates are the body's number one fuel source, so when the body is almost swimming in carbohydrates, the pump comes........ "



www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/9-supplements/75907-att-koe007

Any thing prework out with stimulants isn't going to give u a great pump as stimulants are vaso constrictors and what u want is vaso dialotors. There is product soon to be launched by ANS supplements called nutrabolic,yes the same one guy shaffer endorces from the muscle evolution,its gonna be the perfect pre work out drink to have with a carbohydrate based meal pre work out.

DJ but dont most pre-workouts contain NO which is a vaso-dialotor right?

Deadgoat wrote: DJ but dont most pre-workouts contain NO which is a vaso-dialotor right?

DG it is a vasodialator however because of all the stimulants they act as an antagonist, which dampens the response of the NO from its full efficacy.

Didn't know that, seems like Muscle Marinade so far have got the balance right between the stims and NO. Its either that or they've droppped the stims and instead opted for meth :lol:

The NOxide added to the products is not enought to cancel out the stimulants...its like taking drugs with a sleeping tablet then going out,nothing like being high when u are asleep if u get my analogy.

DJ wrote: The NOxide added to the products is not enought to cancel out the stimulants...its like taking drugs with a sleeping tablet then going out,nothing like being high when u are asleep if u get my analogy.

:silly: wahahahaha

Most pre workout stimulants are exactly what they say – stimulants, which mostly causes an increase in BP and are vaso constrictors. Most pre-workout stimulants use DMAA (similar to ephedrine) with addition of caffeine and other herbal extracts to increase the effect of the DMAA.

Supplements cannot contain NO, only ingredients which boost NO via synthase. Arginine is a good vaso dialator and assists with the increase of NO (Pump) Forms of L-Arginine, in degree of efficacy for NO increase is base, then HCL, then APG and most effective is L-Arginine Pyroglutatmate.

I know they do not contain nitrix oxide bud,it was easier to put it out like that than list all the substances used.

DJ wrote: I know they do not contain nitrix oxide bud,it was easier to put it out like that than list all the substances used.

It's a gas... LOL, no NO. You are right.


Nitric Oxide is a gas formed in the body by the breakdown of L-Arginine to L-Citrulline through an enzyme group called Nitric Oxide Synthase (NOS). Although NO2 is used for many purposes, it's ability to increase blood flow will be discussed in this article.

In general supplement companies claim that NO2 supplements can:

Increase recovery post workout
Increase resistance to muscular fatigue
Increase muscular work output



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Lol..damn spelling.