Boks, Tri-Nations and WC

MCJ
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11 Jul 2011 13:27 #70443 by MCJ

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Ok...so the Super Rugby season has come to an end with the Reds being crowned champions for 2011.

So let's now focus on the Boks, the staff, selection and their upcoming fixtures with the climax being the WC!

Currie cup posts are also welcome.

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Deadgoat
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11 Jul 2011 13:43 #70447 by Deadgoat

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With this new s15 format am I the only who wouldn't mind not having a curie cup this year? Glad they are shortening it next year

Sorry guys Apparently it is true, cause its happened to certain people already, so I’m not taking any chances !!
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11 Jul 2011 14:25 #70457 by 00pump

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Well the currie cup will be exciting because its mainly our B team (sharks) so nice way to get new blood in the group... Gives JLP a chance to open again and hopefully play better rugby..

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11 Jul 2011 14:46 #70462 by MCJ

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Yeah there has to be a currie cup. Its the worlds oldest provincial tournament and is very well know and admired. This is where we wil see new talent coming into their own. It is also a great format for deserving but unlucky players who didn't make the bok squad to prove the selectors etc wrong.

It would also be very unfair to the smaller unions who are not fully represented at super rugby level. Besides all this the unions will suffer major financial losses due to sponsors and ticket sales and television rights.

Currie cup is as south african as u can get. And must never be allowed to die a silent death.

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11 Jul 2011 15:07 #70466 by 00pump

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MCJ you right, it wouldn't be fair on the other teams, like the Griquas who actually play a mean game of rugby.. best way to get exposure..

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Deadgoat
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11 Jul 2011 15:36 #70473 by Deadgoat

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00pump wrote: Well the currie cup will be exciting because its mainly our B team (sharks) so nice way to get new blood in the group... Gives JLP a chance to open again and hopefully play better rugby..

Ah JLP, the journeyman of SA rugby. Thought he'd be playing for the EP Kings by now

@MCJ definitely agree with you on that. Its just that this new s15 has taken the novelty away from local derbies, I mean does the paying public really want to see WP/Stormers beat the Sharks again this year?

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11 Jul 2011 15:40 #70475 by 00pump

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Well we would love to see WP try beat us

Then again 11 years without a cup, it could be tough..

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11 Jul 2011 19:35 #70495 by Zimbulk88

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i have been following the rugga from this side and i had to laugh at pDV .. i think he should play some of the so called injured players as the tri nations is going to mentally boost the winning team .. SA with the team they are fielding arent going to do well as they wrap the other players in cotton wool ... a consistent team that gels is the team to win the RWC in my opinion and south need to play a regular team and get the wins to boost the mental aspect as well as players and media ..

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Deadgoat
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12 Jul 2011 09:27 - 12 Jul 2011 09:41 #70533 by Deadgoat

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00pump wrote: Well we would love to see WP try beat us Then again 11 years without a cup, it could be tough..

Lol its a pity we can't play your lot every weekend, otherwise we'd win the thing every year

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Hennie
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12 Jul 2011 09:34 #70536 by Hennie

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Lets be real guys, as much as i hope and pray we can pull off a win in October, do you realistically think its possible with the current management and coach? Make no mistake i believe 150% we have the players and talent to do it but sumhow cant see us going all the way. Hell, I hope im wrong !!

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MCJ
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12 Jul 2011 10:38 #70539 by MCJ

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@ hennie

I am generally more of a pessimist than an optimist. But I really do feel that we are great contenders for the title. We can beat any team home or away at any given time. If the players have the hunger and commitment then 90% of the coaching job is done.

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Hennie
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12 Jul 2011 16:57 #70561 by Hennie

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Very true and i also believe that we CAN be contenders but the management and coaching staff still have to make the combinations, gameplan and create the belief in the players that they CAN do it so the players can just execute the plan to outsmart and outplay the rest but my "gut" tells me that PDV and kie dont have the abbility to do that but as i said " hell, i hope im wrong" !!

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14 Jul 2011 08:43 #70657 by MCJ

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Ok seeing as the tri-nations only kicks off next weekend, which currie cup games would u rate as a must see for this weekend?

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14 Jul 2011 08:55 #70659 by 00pump

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Deadgoat wrote:
00pump wrote: Well we would love to see WP try beat us Then again 11 years without a cup, it could be tough..

Lol its a pity we can't play your lot every weekend, otherwise we'd win the thing every year

Ja look if you look how you have been any team when you coming to us near the finals you crack.. Hence the reason we smashed you out the CC

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SNOK1986
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14 Jul 2011 13:29 #70675 by SNOK1986

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Sharks for the currie cup and boks for the WC, brave statement i know haha

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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14 Jul 2011 14:23 #70677 by 00pump

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SNOK brave but true... no doubt..

LoL... Strongest team I recon at the moment is probably the Cheetahs as they have the least few players part of bok squad, if you look at the amount of players Bulls and Sharks have lost to WC and WP too.. It would show the Cheetahs as being a major force in this years CC, and i'm hoping the Lions too ...

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MCJ
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14 Jul 2011 14:37 #70682 by MCJ

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I'm really excited to see this new young Bulls team. Its obvious who I support. Lol

But I'm quietly optimistic about the lions this year and reckon they might just start finding form as all their players have been playing super rugby earlier this year. As long as they don't carry their potential ability to upset across the jukskei rivier....

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14 Jul 2011 15:13 #70688 by 00pump

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MCJ, you guys still have big guns in that team, that have played and won super titles. I know 6 of your current lined up guys pretty well..

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14 Jul 2011 15:34 #70689 by MCJ

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00pump wrote: MCJ, you guys still have big guns in that team, that have played and won super titles. I know 6 of your current lined up guys pretty well..

NOT fair!!

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14 Jul 2011 15:45 #70691 by 00pump

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Ja its not fair, you still have a strong team

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14 Jul 2011 15:50 #70692 by MCJ

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No no no. THAT is perfectly fair!

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16 Jul 2011 16:23 #70791 by MCJ

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Well after last nights game my hope for a lions resurgence seems very slim!! The big one is on soon!! GO BULLE!!

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john777
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16 Jul 2011 16:44 #70793 by john777

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I am worried about the management. Lets start with Gary Gold, when he was with the Stormers the Stormers had the worst forwards in the super 14, why is the the forwards coach of the Boks?

Dick Muir had mixed results with Natal, mostly good but not great, he made a mock of his time with the Lions, he has had little or no success SOLY as a backline coach.

Pieter de Villiers. Although Jake White came to the Senior side from coaching the under 21's, there was no super 14 winning coach and a world cup winning coach, when he was selected. The obvious choice should have been as follows.

Heineke Meyer - Head coach.
Allistar Coetzee - Backline Coach
Rassie Ersasmus - Tactical advisor
Gert Smal - Forwards Coach
Nienaber - Defensive Coach

But we have what we have and support them we must.

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MCJ
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16 Jul 2011 21:39 #70808 by MCJ

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Sigh.....ok, no bulls joke plz. Lol what a terrible game

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16 Jul 2011 22:06 #70809 by 00pump

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Bad luck bro, was at the game, some good rugby by the bulls, not to many mistakes, you controlled most of the first 20 of second half.. I think your team is going to evolve nicely through the Carrie cup

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