Boks, Tri-Nations and WC

U were by the bulls vs shark game? My point of view is a lil different though. The bulls lacked that extra punch and creativity. Did the same things over and over even though they saw it wasn't working. The sharks loose trio ran riot and the bulls lost the forward battle.

That damn halfback had me with hands in my hair. He wil be better as a traffic cop directing traffic and he really caused the bulls to have slow ball giving the sharks ample time to set their defensive lines.

A lot of hard work lies ahead...

But I must say I was impressed by the sharks! The really deserved the win! Damn they got such quick ball and keegan daniel and co had a field day. Great supportive play and great ball handling when they offloaded to the support.

Well done sharks!

....And in other news.....Border lost to Boland 64-15. Lmao

WOW WHAT A GAME!!!

Samoa 32 - 23 Aus!

sharks completely owned the bulls! nice!

samoa beating the aussies nice!

all i need nows is 5 vials of pgw primo to pop into my hands.

U never know mate....lol

So what are ur views on the team selection for saturdays match against aus? I think it is an exciting and interesting starting line up.

Its difficult or near impossible to make any predictions as although aus lost to samoa last wkend they will def be coming back with a bang and a lot to prove. On the other hand we don't know what to expect from the boks either....

MCJ wrote: WOW WHAT A GAME!!!

Samoa 32 - 23 Aus!

And there you have SA's hurdle in the WC.
We all know whales will beat us as well since they ALWAYS show up at the WC prepared.

That happens and we dont see the 1/4's!

jackrabbit1 wrote:

MCJ wrote: WOW WHAT A GAME!!!

Samoa 32 - 23 Aus!

And there you have SA's hurdle in the WC.
We all know whales will beat us as well since they ALWAYS show up at the WC prepared.

That happens and we dont see the 1/4's!

Don't jinx us now JR! But what a disgrace that would be to make the 1/4's

Player
Province

Backs


Gio Aplon - What a legend, good quality
DHL Western Province

Bjorn Basson - Awesome under the high ball
Vodacom Blue Bulls

Juan de Jongh - Very talented, great defender
DHL Western Province

Adrian Jacobs - Quality coming off the bench
The Sharks

Elton Jantjies - Still has a lot to prove
MTN Lions

Patrick Lambie - Quality for his age, has a bright future
The Sharks

Charl McLeod - Good but still debatable
The Sharks

Lwazi Mvovo - Man this dude is awesome, leg power of note. Love it when he drives those legs
The Sharks

Odwa Ndungane - too injury prone
The Sharks

Wynand Olivier - also class on defence
Vodacom Blue Bulls

Ruan Pienaar - has his moments, but still don't rate
Ulster

Morne Steyn - excellent on defence but you know he is going to kick on opponents and for territory, can be easily read
Vodacom Blue Bulls

Forwards


Heinrich Brüssow - Quality, he just needs to keep sticking out, like before his injury
Toyota Free State Cheetahs

Jean Deysel - The human wrecking ball, everything you need in a loosy
The Sharks

Dean Greyling - Don't know much about him, but what I've seen good
Vodacom Blue Bulls

Alistair Hargreaves - Did well in Super Rugby but still waiting to see what he can do at international level
The Sharks

Ryan Kankowski - Loves to run with the ball but needs to offload
The Sharks

Werner Kruger
Vodacom Blue Bulls

Ashley Johnson - Man this guy is solid looking forward to seeing how he performs
Toyota Free State Cheetahs

Johann Muller - Wonder if he still has it
Ulster

Coenie Oosthuizen
Toyota Free State Cheetahs

Chiliboy Ralepelle - Has played well during Super Rugby, hope he plays with the same passion
Vodacom Blue Bulls

Danie Rossouw - Always a tough oke
Vodacom Blue Bulls

John Smit - Think he has seen better days, fitness not fantastic but still think he's a good leader
The Sharks

Deon Stegmann - This guy also had an awesome Super Rugby Season, looking forward to the action
Vodacom Blue Bulls

Adriaan Strauss
Toyota Free State Cheetahs

Flip van der Merwe
Vodacom Blue Bulls

All in all looking forward to seeing what the new talent can bring to the team in the Tri Nations and definitly behind our boys for the WC, GOOOOOOOO Bokke

Saturday’s match will be the 72nd test between Australia and South Africa since the first meeting in 1933. The Springboks have won 41 tests, lost 29 and drawn one test in 2001.

South Africa’s record against Australia – Played 71; Won 41; Lost 29; Drawn 1; Points for 1 347; Points against 1 239; Tries for 164; Tries against 128; Average score 19-17.

South Africa’s Castle Tri-Nations record against Australia – Played 34; Won 17; Lost 16; Drawn 1; Points for 748; Points against 786; Tries for 70; Tries against 78. Average score 22-23

South Africa’s away record in the Tri-Nations against Australia – Played 17; Won 3; Lost 13; Drawn 1; Points for 255; Points against 440; Tries for 25; Tries against 46. Average score 15-26

South Africa’s record against Australia at this venue: Played 4; Lost 4; Points for 53; Points against 101; Tries for 4; Tries against 12; Average score 13-25.



Just some info for all, doesn't look great for us but we can still do it, the boys just need to believe it!!!

To be honest, history means nothing, because just like WP were the rugby force in the country, and before that the Lions, then the Bulls, Sharks looking strong too..

History means nothing and the reds proved it in the final.. End of the day we playing uncapped guys and we playing a very different team, just due to that it could be interesting, then again .AU got destroyed last weekend by a side most people never take serious.

Lets wait for the results, but i'm eager to see this side in action.

This won't end well for the Bokke, Wallabies have a point to prove and we've provided the perfect cannon fodder for them. I mean if they lose to this team after the whole Samoa debacle, why bother going to the world cup? They don't have much of a choice but to hand us our asses

On the bright side this gives the likes of Flip, Wynand and AD a chance to play themselves out of a world cup berth

00pump wrote: ....AU got destroyed last weekend by a side most people never take serious.

Lets wait for the results, but i'm eager to see this side in action.

I was leading SuperBru in the last WC at one stage because i had Argentina as my Dark Horse.
The WC is in Samoa's back yard and they are eager boys.

jackrabbit1 wrote:

00pump wrote: ....AU got destroyed last weekend by a side most people never take serious.

Lets wait for the results, but i'm eager to see this side in action.

I was leading SuperBru in the last WC at one stage because i had Argentina as my Dark Horse.
The WC is in Samoa's back yard and they are eager boys.

Is there any corner where your wisdom does not reach JR? I'd love to also do the superbru thing but don't really understand the process like how to register etc and wil a blackberry be sufficient?

Johan Muller out of starting line up due to hamstring. Hargreaves takes his place and Kankowski replaces hargreaves on the bench.

MCJ wrote: .....I'd love to also do the superbru thing but don't really understand the process like how to register etc and wil a blackberry be sufficient?

Just go to SuperBru.com - register and depending on the team you support you automatically get entered into that pool. You can then decide to start your own and invite all your buddies etc. Will be cool to have one for the forum!?!?
The instructions are hellova basic - pick the winning team and winning margin. You get points as listed.

BB - not full functionality but you can make picks and see results on the go.

Very cool site.

WTF did I just watch? So much for SA rugby having depth. We had better fucking win the WC

00pump wrote: I like the team in the last 30 minutes, when Lambie came on the whole backline started to come on fire, Deysel also brought something exciting to the game and Adi Jacobs.. Wish that was the starting team, we looked a whole different team..

Our defence was shocking, lets see what happens next week.. I'm not to worried about these Trinations as it it a time to play with numbers, and I think we saw the last 30 min we can control the game with the right key players in the right spots..

A bit dissapointed

Come on now 00pump. The Wallabies were 39-6 up and had thoroughly avenged last week's humiliation, they were done playing at the 55 minute mark. Even Chris Pollock decided to give us some calls so we wouldn't leave empty-handed. Biggest disappointment was Ashley Johnson, this was his chance but he showed he's just a poor man's Willem Alberts

The Wallabies weren't even that great upfront, we were just woeful. With the news that Bekker's out of the WC I fear for our lineouts if anything were to happen to Matfield. Just glad that Olivier has played his last game in a Bok jersey. I won't even mention John Smit...

Morne Steyn's back to his predictable best. I don't think he once ran the ball up to the line, just an array of telegraphed inside balls and pointless kicks down field. And don't get me started on his defence, powderpuff at best.

Anyone else had to google whether or not Stegmann was in fact playing today?

Get rid of PDV and his horses-Ass team. Players arent just put on the field and told "have fun"?!?! They are instructed to play a certain way.
Do you honestly think Morne cant play any other way? I've seen him play a great running game.
I hope we see our arses at the WC. The sooner people start opening their eyes the better.
Now tell me again - why was PDV selected and not Heyneke Meyer?
Down the same hole as soccer we go!

I'm a huge morne steyn fan, but hell he played kak. I also don't rate ruan pienaar at all. Our lineouts are dismall without the likes of matfield and botha. Wynand olivier is so predictable. We really didn't knw what to do with the ball and had no structure.

But besides all that I feel we didn't do too bad considering its a "spoeg en plak" team. Especially the last 15min or so. After lambie and co came on there seemed to be more urgency amoungst the players. Pity mcleod didn't get a run as like I said pienaar is pathetic.

I was impressed with chilliboy and especially mvovo. To me he is the man of the match from a springbok point of view.

I'd like to see lambie and mcleod start next week with jacobs also replacing olivier.

It sounds like I'm a shark supporter but I'm a bull all the way. I don't expect a win next week, in fairness a hiding is more likely. Bigger than this one.

Lastly...the coaching staff.... Dick muir isn't called "dick" for nothing. Gary gold is more like foolsgold. And div is just div. I need not say more. Its no wonder the backline seem clueless as the coaching staff look more nacked than the players.

I'm optimistic when we have a full strength team. I have faith in those players but that's where it ends, at the players.

Hey MCJ you right about Ruaan Pienaar, he has had his time but I find it seriously unethical to put him in the team playing away, team paring works very well, and that means morne and fourie or hougaard, lambie and mc cloud, etc.. chillieboi played some good rugby but his throwing wasn't the best, as much as john never played a great game he did ok in the line outs.. I find our defense was just shocking, pity because I really was hoping this team would suprise me.. bason also didn't play a bad game, just not really given a chance to get that pace we know he has... deysel played some good rugby and happy for him, least we have a good reserve when our big guns play in the wc.. end of the day this is bok rugby and every player in our team has a unique strength but what I saw today was a boring one dimensional mindset from our players... let's hope next week we dominate, I'm sure we will...

Yeah 00pump I agree. We can only get better from here on. I'm sure the new guys have learnt a lot from this experience. Things like this need to be done in order to test new combinations. After this world cup we will be losing many of the current "A" team guys and the newbies that are getting exposure today are the guys that will take the reigns tomorrow.

A lot of emotion is involved due to this being a world cup year. But like I have said numerous times before, the tri-nations is a minor this year. That's how I feel. I would suggest using the "A" players in the home leg of the competition for some game time and to "gel" a little. Just for some continuity before the world cup. By "A" side I mean the top guys.

I would prefer the AB's to win the tri-nations overwhelmingly easily. Just to boost their ego a little running into the WC. As we all know the AB's always stumble against the likes of France etc on this big stage and over confidence would be playing right into the hands of their opposition. On the flip side a confident AB side with home ground advantage could be pretty dangerous, but I think the pressure wil just be too much!

Oh my hat, that must have been the worst game of rugby I've seen. Ashley Johnson did nothing for us, everytime he got the ball he passed it. Ruaan Pienaar is a kakhuise, what was he trying to do. I hate to say this but I would have rather played Ricky Janurie LOL. Morne Steyn, like I said gonna be way to predictable. Jean Deysel at least made an impact, when he came on. Pat Lambie, what a beauty, the game completely turned around when he came on. Mvovo I thought had a pretty good game. Basson, he's a great attacker but where was he on defence. Wynand Olivier also very predictable, did he even pass the ball? Danie Rusouw is such a big strong oke but when he gets tackled with the ball, 90% of the time he looses it forward. We were just undercommiting to the rucks and in my opinion that's where any game is won or lost!!

Hey JR..... I registered on Superbru. What pools are u in? I registered for currie cup, winter internationals, world cup and NPC.

Anyone game to create a fantasy league for the WC or a superbru league?

Ill def be keen to join