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19 Sep 2013 14:20 #151634 by Fakey_AK
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Thanx for all the input and advice so far MA.

Another thing, what companies make PegMGF. So far only UGL i can find is Keifei and there rep is a bit questionable.

Side note: Not asking for a source or fishing, simple want to know what ugl has it in there range of products.

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19 Sep 2013 14:34 #151639 by Muscleaddict
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Can you get Synthesis brand peptides? They seem to be quite widely available in SA. I can't really say anything else without breaking the rules.
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19 Sep 2013 14:45 #151641 by MCJ
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What fat loss if any can I expect on the peg MRF?

I'll be trying P4mance Peptides. Apparently swiss based....

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19 Sep 2013 15:27 #151655 by MCJ
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Also came across this:

"DAT recommends 2mg twice a week for peg mgf. He said results won't be seen in the first month but will then come on and continue long after cessation....3 month minimum run for results. The best time to take it is atleast 5 hour pwo in the muscle group trained, or the next morning"

2mg x 2 a week???

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19 Sep 2013 15:59 #151663 by Muscleaddict
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Yes I know he says that lol. He doesn't pay a cent for his peptides. Just look at what that would cost. It's not necessary to do that for results. Dat's a super smart oke but he's been shown to be wrong before. Try the lower dose bro. It's worked for loads of other guys. You can always try crazy shit later.

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19 Sep 2013 16:08 #151664 by MCJ
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Muscleaddict wrote: Yes I know he says that lol. He doesn't pay a cent for his peptides. Just look at what that would cost. It's not necessary to do that for results. Dat's a super smart oke but he's been shown to be wrong before. Try the lower dose bro. It's worked for loads of other guys. You can always try crazy shit later.


Yup that's the plan MA. Thanx a lot for the help. I will pester u again on the topic as I need more info. Thanx dude

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19 Sep 2013 16:14 #151665 by MCJ
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SABAX sterile water sufficient?

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19 Sep 2013 19:08 #151690 by MCJ
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If I was to pin a few times daily it would prob be ghrp6. Would this work in synergy with peg-mgf? Would obviously drive the cost up a bit though

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20 Sep 2013 09:21 #151712 by MCJ
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Ok, I've ordered 3 x Peg-MGF and 2 x bacterostatic water. Will prob get here next week after public holiday

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20 Sep 2013 09:31 - 20 Sep 2013 09:31 #151714 by Fakey_AK
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Baaaah! Don't like you very much at the moment MCJ. :P

I'm still struggling, hope to have some before month end so i can run a 4 week cycle in October before i start a cycle.

Also, does meal timing play a role with MGF as well. Like not consuming any carbs or fats before or after injection?

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20 Sep 2013 09:44 #151715 by MCJ
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Fakey_AK wrote: Baaaah! Don't like you very much at the moment MCJ. :P

I'm still struggling, hope to have some before month end so i can run a 4 week cycle in October before i start a cycle.

Also, does meal timing play a role with MGF as well. Like not consuming any carbs or fats before or after injection?


Mine will last about 15 weeks. Enough time to see any results and enough incentive to stay off AAS for long enough lol.

As far I know meal timing doesn't matter so mych with the Peg version. But I may be wrong.

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20 Sep 2013 19:45 #151805 by MCJ
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Hahaha only read ur post PROPERLY now Fakey! Shit sorry man, would help u out if I could mate :lol:

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20 Sep 2013 22:27 #151815 by MCJ
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Lol seems I'm spamming this thread. My apologies.

When I used the LP igf1-lr3 I experienced lovely deep sleep and severe carpel tunnel syndrome. Wondering if I could expect the same with Peg-MGF? Would I be able to have my high simple carb drink directly post workout if I also pin directly after workout? Bit of conflicting info on the net and other forums

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22 Sep 2013 18:35 #151869 by MCJ
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MCJ wrote: Lol seems I'm spamming this thread. My apologies.

When I used the LP igf1-lr3 I experienced lovely deep sleep and severe carpel tunnel syndrome. Wondering if I could expect the same with Peg-MGF? Would I be able to have my high simple carb drink directly post workout if I also pin directly after workout? Bit of conflicting info on the net and other forums


Just "bumping" the thread seeing as its Monday tomorrow :P

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22 Sep 2013 19:09 #151873 by Rhino
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Hey MCJ

Did you use IGF on or off cycle? How were your results? And did you inject IM pre or pos workout?
I want to run some from when I start pct to try and hang onto my gains what are your thoughts

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25 Sep 2013 08:15 #152000 by Fakey_AK
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I finally got a hold of Synthesis but there pegMGF also comes in 10 unit boxes and I only want 2-3 vials. Don't want to buy a full box and then I'm not happy with it and I sit with a full box. :(

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25 Sep 2013 08:45 #152002 by MCJ
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@ Rhino. Was on cycle bud. I'm bilatterally post workout. Didn't really use it long enough to say I had great gains. Only used one box. But I did have quite bad carple tunnel from it

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25 Sep 2013 08:48 #152003 by MCJ
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@Fakey...wish I could get hold of Synthesis...Luckily I only have 3 vials so if its shit its not a huge loss

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01 Oct 2013 19:07 #152671 by MCJ
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Ok, so cjc 1295 needs to be run with ghrp6 to maximise the full potential of the two as they work in synchrony (mind the spelling). But that seems to be limited to cjc 1295 w/o DAC as it only stimulates short pulses of gh release hence needing the ghrp6 to enhance this. Both rely on short bursts. It seems this is not neccessary with cjc 1295 WITH DAC as its active for so long (days) and constantly stimulating gh release (gh bleed) over a period of time?? Or do I have this totally wrong?

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01 Oct 2013 19:30 #152674 by Muscleaddict
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You need BOTH. A GHRH and a GHRP. Either of the CJCs on its own is only 1/4 as effective as when it's used with GHRP6/ipam at 1mcg/KG.

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01 Oct 2013 20:52 #152687 by MCJ
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Muscleaddict wrote: You need BOTH. A GHRH and a GHRP. Either of the CJCs on its own is only 1/4 as effective as when it's used with GHRP6/ipam at 1mcg/KG.

Dammit. Would it have been so bad to say "yes u right MCJ"? Hurt my feelings. Estrogen is high and doing pct. Sniff sniff. Still love u MA none the less :lol:

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02 Oct 2013 05:59 #152705 by Fakey_AK
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While i wait to see how MCJ's pegMGF log goes I decided to give the cjc and ghrp combo a go. Now I have a few questions here.

1. What is the optimal cycle length to run this to really reap the benefits of the combo.
2. Planning on 100mcg of each 3x a day, is this a good dose or should I up it? Seen guys up it to 5x a day.
3. Does meal timing around injections play a role or blunt, negate the effect of the injections? (the whole waiting period between shots and so on)

Thanx in advance.

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02 Oct 2013 09:51 #152726 by MCJ
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Fakey_AK wrote: While i wait to see how MCJ's pegMGF log goes I decided to give the cjc and ghrp combo a go. Now I have a few questions here.

1. What is the optimal cycle length to run this to really reap the benefits of the combo.
2. Planning on 100mcg of each 3x a day, is this a good dose or should I up it? Seen guys up it to 5x a day.
3. Does meal timing around injections play a role or blunt, negate the effect of the injections? (the whole waiting period between shots and so on)

Thanx in advance.


1. I would say 3 months MINIMUM
2. Sounds good
3. So far I can tell yes carbs will raise insulin which would have a negative effect on the GH release

I may be wrong. Still learning like u bud ;)

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02 Oct 2013 11:19 #152752 by Oupa
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Fakey_AK wrote: While i wait to see how MCJ's pegMGF log goes I decided to give the cjc and ghrp combo a go. Now I have a few questions here.

1. What is the optimal cycle length to run this to really reap the benefits of the combo.
I am currently 18 weeks in cjc+ipam and the results are impressive.
2. Planning on 100mcg of each 3x a day, is this a good dose or should I up it? Seen guys up it to 5x a day.
I used 1mcg per 1kg for about 14 weeks x 3 daily, currently only pinning once before bed. I will up the dose back to x 3 when my bridge starts in a few weeks
3. Does meal timing around injections play a role or blunt, negate the effect of the injections? (the whole waiting period between shots and so on)
No it doesnt need to be timed, first thing when you wake up, 30min before workout and 10min before bed.

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02 Oct 2013 11:26 - 02 Oct 2013 11:32 #152755 by Oupa
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That depends on your training time. If your training time is early morning, then make sure to pin the afternoon about 8 hours before your last bedtime shot.

Pumps are very good when you pin +-30min before workout, prevent this protocol on intense cardio days and rather pin after workout.

CJC+IPAM schedule i found successful

Morning workouts

Pin 1 - when you wake 30min before workout
Pin 2 - Afternoon +- 8 - 10 hours before your last pin
Pin 3 - Bed time.

Afternoon workouts

Pin 1 - when you wake
Pin 2 - 30min before workout
Pin 3 - Bedtime

Evening workouts

Pin 1 - when you wake
Pin 2 - +- 3-5 hours before your evening workout
Pin 3 - bedtime

Twice a day training

Pin 1 - when you wake 30min before workout (morning)
Pin 2 - 30 min before workout (afternoon)
Pin 3 - 10 min before bed (hopefully evenings) lol
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