Everything you need to know about Clenbuterol

If I do my cardio now after my workout , do I still take my clen fitst think in the morning or do I take my clen 30min before workout?

Take the clen when you wake each morning. If you dont wake, donate the rest to a charity..

If I don't wake, I had an overdose hahaha

Hi Oupa

With the oral liquid clen, it's 250mcg/ml in a 15ml if im not mistaken = 90 tabs of 40mcg. How would one take this? On a syringe then water? Or syringe straight to mouth? And at what dosage for starters?

I would say start with 40mcg a day, drop the Clen into water then drink. But others may advise better

Look at the beginning of this thread, Pyro lays out a 6 week clen cycle... Always drop the liquid clen into water (200ml), then drink. Remember the ketoifen.

Or you cab just use 2 caps betasleep every night

I use 5 drops in 100ml water. Then up by 20mcg every 3 days. Clen @ 120mcg is max. 80mcg is enough for me.

Very important not to drop the drops straight ibto your mouth as you could easily squeeze out too many drops by mistake and then, you're gonna have a bad time.

Hi Pyro..

Thanks for the useful info...This is an excellent thread.
Question I have is, would it be ok to change from one brand of clen to another mid cycle?
Also what happens if u change over from say Axio tabs to LP Liquid clen mid cycle?

No problem bud. You should see the difference in quality immediately.

Hey Pyro...

A buddy of mine was telling me that you can take clen subcutaneously with a slin pin?

Now in only ever seen oral tablets dosed at 40mcg and of course LP liquid clen at 5mcg per drop...
Are they shooting the LP liquid clen?
And is this practice some how superior to oral injestion? Increased bio availability perhaps?

Sorry if it's a dumb question, just the first time I've heard of this...

On a side note... And nothing to do with clen (directly at least)

I'm trying to get a better understanding of adrenergic receptors, the alphas and betas and how the fit into the entire picture...

Now I get that alpha blocks lypolysis (or I think at least) and beta acts as an agonist of lypolysis?

Am I on the right track here?
Do you have a resource that i can turn to to learn more about this?
Google spits out over complicated dothraki :pinch:

Be sure to read my article on Yohimbine where I explained a bit about what happens with the receptors. You can find tons of info on Pubmed and Wikipedia (yes really).

Yes you can inject Clen subQ but do not listen to any of that crap about it reducing the fat better where you inject and spot reduction absolute nonsense. You cannot just inject any liquid (you will die from infection) it must be created for injection purposes in a clean room. Bioavailability is the same. I don't see the logic behind injecting something if you can rather drink it so I always advise to drink the injectable Clen.

You know, now you say that the clen has to be specifically manufactured for injection, it seems embarrassingly obvious! :oops:

Will definitely go through the yohimbine article again...
Thanks Pyro, appreciate the guidance!

I help gladly man. Did you know you also get Clen in gel form? So some geniuses listen to their big friend from the gym and rub it over the spots they would like to see reduced. See anything wrong here? :lol: :lol: :lol: Hint: The skin does not absorb the Clen.

Where would we be without your hints?

Thanks Pyro!

Hey Pyro,

I've used clen with CrossFit about 2 years ago and seemed fine. Just did't really have as much gas in the tank when I trained. (I was also not all that well informed back then)

My question is, is it extremely dangerous to do High Intensity workouts on clen? Is it just not worth the risk?

As I said I've done it before but I was't quite at the level I am now in terms of intensity

Low dose clen will give you better performance with crossfit, but finishing your wod 10 seconds faster is not worth a the risk of heart failure. Very dangerous so dont fck around with it.

It's just not worth it. You can be fine doing the same thing at high intensity many times but then the one day you push a little too hard (or even the same) then the Clen is gonna kick your ass hard! For me it's not worth risking it as the one time it goes for a ball of shit it makes all the other times not worth it. You can try a low dose of Clen 20mcg on days you feel sluggish to give you a kick much like a pre-workout, but still be vigilant of your heart.

Thanks so much guys, I'll just skip it all together.

Thoughts on Ginetix clen?

I have found my brand and it's world class quality, so I don't really give a damn about the other brands. Maybe someone else can help you man..

A lot of people come and ask what brands to use, or thoughts on certain products.

The reality is that you have to find what you're happy with.

For most of us, we will rather pay a premium price and take comfort that we are putting quality substances into our bodies.

If you use the search function you will find two brands of clenbuterol are popular amongst forum users. Those being LP and Oraltec.

That's as much as I'm willing to comment on the topic as the forum is not for marketing products but instead gaining knowledge of safe use of these compounds.

HI Pyro/guys...

Awesome read......

So thanks to Caffeine I went through every Clen page I could find in the search function last night.

Now I have a few questions, mainly about the yohimbine and insulin.

My brother has recently moved in with me. He is now following my Carb Cycling diet. He is 23, and around 12% body fat, was on about 10 starting his December holiday. so he wants to do a clen, Yohimbine, beta sleep cycle to swop the bit of love handles he gained for his 6pack again.

We cannot gym early mornings, so fasted cardio is not a option then.
I work, he studies, so we have to train in the evenings, anywhere in the gap from 17-21:00 hours. So our last meal before the workout is at 16:00 hours, depending on the day with my carb allowance, but this is 99% no carb meal. So often I feel like PW as energy is low after a long day when I get home before gym. Now this is where the questions comes in.
I make my own PW from adding up to 10 ingredients together. This we would drink at 17:00 when driving to gym, and afterwards I make a shake. The shake contains carbs, from fruits, milk, yoghurt, vitargo/dextrose, ect. Now obviously this will spike my insulin as that's what I want POW.

Now because our last carb meal is about 4hours prior to staring the training, Im sure his insulin levels will be low for the yohimbine to work to its full potential. unless any of the following ingredients I add to PW will spike his insulin.

So my question 1) will any of the following I Add to our PW spike insulin levels and stop the yohmfrom working?

Raw unflavoured Bcaa's (10grams)
Extra L-leucine (3-5g)
Glutamine (5g)
Beta Alinine (3-4g)
Argenine AKG (3-5g)
Creatine (Cee, Mono) (5g)
Tuarine (10g)
Caffiene (400-600mg)(will be low dosages while on clen, 200mg??)
DMMA (50-100mg) will not add while on Clen!!
Sweeto for a flavour some days (but even though it show 0cals, I will not be adding it to his PW while on Clen/yohm)

So would it be advised to take the clen dose in the mornings, before our mega shake with oats and carbs ect, and the yohmbine with PW at around 17:00 with low insulin levels?
Post Workout protein shake has lots of carbs, and then the meal after gym also contains starchy carbs. would the insulin spike this causes stop the effectiveness of the yohimbine for the rest of the evening?

We also use multi vitamins, DAA First thing in the mornings, and Gaba before bed at night, and Cla 1000mg x3 per day.



My second question is about myself.
How bad is the above mentioned cycle of clen, yohm, and beta sleep, on muscle wasting? I have never used any of them, so have no idea.

My Bother is still a fair bit sensitive to harsh stimulants, already have shaky hands and is someone who naturally sweats a lot. So I'm thinking of doing the cycle with him for support. To help if sides become to much, or he needs some backup on reactions from the drugs.
But, I Don't want to loose weight, I could go with a 2% drop in body fat percentage, but not at the expense of my muscle.
I'm 27, 191cm, 88kg and had Bf done with a Dexa Scan and calliper few days ago, and I am on 7,3% (I don't compete and never will, so don't want to drop to low as maintenance is a bitch. I already have defined oblique's, v-line etc.)

3) If my Bf Drops lower (what is to low?, I know essential bf differs from man to women) would it be dangerous for me to follow on with my maintenance calorie carb cycling diet with already low BF, with your Cycle on page 1 Pyro. Or should I go and see what happens, learn what the clen/yohm combo is about and form my own opinion with real experience, and stop if I go from lean, to skinny. Or rather just monitor him and help in his effort?

Sorry for the over complicated and long post.

Thanks