Everything you need to know about Clenbuterol

I hate working with fractions/dilution/ratios or whatever you want to call them... I don't even bother mixing 2 stroke for the mower, as I know I screw it up every time... Thanks, just wanted to make sure! Don't laugh, but that took me 30 min to figure out!

I learnt that with Clen "less is more"
Too much and too soon and you end up with ugly side effects.

If you experience sides, better not to increase dosing until they subside.

Slow and sure wins the race...

Hi All,

So I have done a bit of research on clen and one thing I cannot seem to find (I searched the forum and did not find any results) is that it seems long term testing which has been done on animals (not humans) shows that you can end up with an enlarged heart due to more collagen and this affects how well your heart can pump blood to the rest of your body.

Is this side effect reversible or if you end up with it, you are screwed for the rest of your life?
Are any of the side effects permanent or are they all reversible once you stop taking it?

PsyCLown wrote: Hi All,

So I have done a bit of research on clen and one thing I cannot seem to find (I searched the forum and did not find any results) is that it seems long term testing which has been done on animals (not humans) shows that you can end up with an enlarged heart due to more collagen and this affects how well your heart can pump blood to the rest of your body.

Is this side effect reversible or if you end up with it, you are screwed for the rest of your life?
Are any of the side effects permanent or are they all reversible once you stop taking it?

We are of course different different to animals - As an example, Clen is Anabolic in animals but not really with us. I think the concern you highlight is associated with sustained and/or abusive usage (cycle times, dosage).

Not sure if you going to find any information on reversing the effects of heavy Clen abuse - Just dont go there.

MDMA wrote:

PsyCLown wrote: Hi All,

So I have done a bit of research on clen and one thing I cannot seem to find (I searched the forum and did not find any results) is that it seems long term testing which has been done on animals (not humans) shows that you can end up with an enlarged heart due to more collagen and this affects how well your heart can pump blood to the rest of your body.

Is this side effect reversible or if you end up with it, you are screwed for the rest of your life?
Are any of the side effects permanent or are they all reversible once you stop taking it?

We are of course different different to animals - As an example, Clen is Anabolic in animals but not really with us. I think the concern you highlight is associated with sustained and/or abusive usage (cycle times, dosage).

Not sure if you going to find any information on reversing the effects of heavy Clen abuse - Just dont go there.

Alright, so basically provided you stick to the recommended guidelines and do not abuse it all should be good and you should not really have to worry much?

PsyCLown wrote: Alright, so basically provided you stick to the recommended guidelines and do not abuse it all should be good and you should not really have to worry much?

Psy, to back you up I've also read about the heart tissue build up. What I gather is only use clen if it's to immediate, certain benefit, you know, not using it as a crutch every cut, multiple times per year. I haven't seen any papers on that though. If I stumble upon something I'll dig this thread up again.

Also, it's irreversible.

So I figured this would be the best thread to post this question in.

If you feel as if you took too much Clen you should take a beta blocker - such as Propranolol.
Now are you able to get beta blockers over the counter or do you need to get a prescription? Can one just walk into a Dischem and ask for Propranolol - if they ask what for just state hypertension and cluster headaches? -shrugs-

Benadryl.

Furk wrote: Benadryl.

Wouldn't that be to up-regulate your beta 2 receptors as opposed to a beta blocker?

PsyCLown wrote:

Furk wrote: Benadryl.

Wouldn't that be to up-regulate your beta 2 receptors as opposed to a beta blocker?

My mistake. Skimmed your question. Apologies mate.

PsyCLown wrote: So I figured this would be the best thread to post this question in.

If you feel as if you took too much Clen you should take a beta blocker - such as Propranolol.
Now are you able to get beta blockers over the counter or do you need to get a prescription? Can one just walk into a Dischem and ask for Propranolol - if they ask what for just state hypertension and cluster headaches? -shrugs-

Haha, not going to help much, but I just try to act like a adult and ride it out. :silly:

Hi Guys.

I am 100kg and know I should take Yombi at two caps a day one dose on a empty stomach the other two-3 hours before my evening workout.

My question is the ECA dosage? Do I take also one ap twice a day? Wgat is the minimum amount Ephedrine neededed? Also how long can I run Yohimbine and ECA for 12weeks?

PsyCLown wrote: So I figured this would be the best thread to post this question in.

If you feel as if you took too much Clen you should take a beta blocker - such as Propranolol.
Now are you able to get beta blockers over the counter or do you need to get a prescription? Can one just walk into a Dischem and ask for Propranolol - if they ask what for just state hypertension and cluster headaches? -shrugs-

It's schedule 3 so you shouldn't have too much trouble. You can tell them you want to study for a life changing exam and you find you are too hyperactive.

Rooi Bul 86 wrote: Hi Guys.

I am 100kg and know I should take Yombi at two caps a day one dose on a empty stomach the other two-3 hours before my evening workout.

My question is the ECA dosage? Do I take also one ap twice a day? Wgat is the minimum amount Ephedrine neededed? Also how long can I run Yohimbine and ECA for 12weeks?

ECA stack do 3 weeks on 3 weeks off (no caffeine at all during the off period).

Thanks Pyro.

And minimum effective Eph dosage? Should I take two ECA doses like Yohimbine?

Ephedrine works exactly like Clenbuterol- start low and slowly taper up the dosage every time you feel okay with the side effects. Start on one then increase by half every time you feel fine.

So the Yohimbine I take for the full 12weeks?

Take the Yoh only with the ECA. No use in taking the Yohimbine alone.

So 3weeks on both 3weeks off both?

Yes

But if I use Beta-Sleep wit ECA and Yoimbine then I can use it for a full 8weeks?

Hi all,

I need some help here.

I previously used axio's CYX 3. Clen Yohmbine and T3. I had great results on this and was literally shredded afterwards. I did 3 weeks on 2 off and 3 weeks on.

I'm not interested in taking the supp again seeing as I've kept body fat within goal range, but my girlfriend is interested in taking it.

Her stats - 25 58kg, 1.67m. Training for 2 to 3 years. Proper training not girly shit, I whould know seeing as she trains with me.

I know the products and recommended doses, but I've read some pretty shitty things about T3 and Yohmbine for females.

Also the lab produced CYX3 kind of binds you to certain doses. It limits your overall intake because you can't take to much T3.

Anyone know how safe unsafe Y and T3 is for females and at which doses.

Thanks for the help.

Stupid idea to cycle CYX3 or CYT3 for 3 weeks on 3 weeks off. You can with clen but not when T3 is in the mix.

Read the topic from the first post and you will notice how Clen is suppose to be run.

Rooi Bul 86 wrote: But if I use Beta-Sleep wit ECA and Yoimbine then I can use it for a full 8weeks?

No, the beta-sleep only works with the Clen. The aspirin is kind of addictive so you might develop a tendency and get some slight withdrawal symptoms. Also the caffeine will stop with its main effects long before 8 weeks.

Thanks Oupa,

I completely understand why you're stating this for T3.

Can you however provide some info on my actual question? I.e Is Yohimbine and T3 safe for females or should she rather stick to straight clen?