Spazzz' 2nd cycle log

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16 Jul 2016 09:27 #201577 by Spazzz
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Thx Pump and Pyro - much appreaciated!

Should i be concerned about the liver at this stage? Been taking essentiale extreme 3 x 2tabs daily for 2 months

Have a great weekend!

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22 Jul 2016 06:59 #201773 by Spazzz
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Spazzz wrote: Thx Pump and Pyro - much appreaciated!

Should i be concerned about the liver at this stage? Been taking essentiale extreme 3 x 2tabs daily for 2 months

Have a great weekend!


Hi guys!

Please share your experience regarding high liver enzymes.. Should i be concerned at the moment, as per my bloods?

Thx and have an awesome weekend!

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22 Jul 2016 11:14 #201780 by Demolish
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Spazzz try choline and inositol , alot of people use it fror non-alcoholic fatty liver so it might help.

generally its recommended to take 3000mg for 30 days, but maybe start on half that

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22 Jul 2016 12:55 #201785 by Spazzz
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Demolish wrote: Spazzz try choline and inositol , alot of people use it fror non-alcoholic fatty liver so it might help.

generally its recommended to take 3000mg for 30 days, but maybe start on half that


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27 Jul 2016 09:38 #201980 by Spazzz
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Spazzz wrote: So.. Officially started my 2nd cycle, and I'm in week 3 now, and will use this as my log to check in on a regular basis. I know some okes were interested in me keeping this log, as I decided to use tbol instead of dbol..

Week 1 – 12 = Test E @ 500mg weekly
Week 1 – 18 = Proviron @40mg ED
Week 1 – 6 = Tbol Kickstart @ 40mg ED
Week 13 – 18 = Anavar at 60mg ED
Week 19 - 23 = PCT 1 as per the sample cycles
HCG from week 1 @ 500ui weekly
Arimidex on standby for gyno symptoms, but might start with this next week at .5mg EOD
Im throwing in some primo at 400mg pw as soon as i get my stock! I also started my HCG at 500iu pw, as my balls almost disappeared during my 1st cycle :P

I have my daily supplements (cals,vit c, mag, zinc, omega 3,6, liver support)
Pre workout i use Bullnox, and BCAA during training and some extra creatine mono
Diet is also spot on!
Will do my bloods in the middle of my cycle, and also after pct

For interest sake, how do u guys take your essentiale extreme dosage. The pack says 2tabs 3x daily. Is this sufficient for liver support?


Hey guys

Week 8 now - and i look and feel great!!!

Nipples little bit sensitive sive the weekend, but it come and goes. Would you recommend taking more proviron, or introduce the adex?

Thx guys!

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27 Jul 2016 20:57 #202018 by Pyroclasm
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Proviron won't help much. Give it till Sunday and leave your titties the hell alone- if it's still there then we proceed with Adex.

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27 Jul 2016 21:38 #202025 by Spazzz
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Thx Pyro :)

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16 Aug 2016 20:40 #202719 by Spazzz
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Hey Guys

Hope you are all keeping well

In week 10 of my cycle below: Got some nice gains and I feel great. Will post some pics soon on my journey in the last year....

Week 1 – 12 = Test E @ 500mg weekly
Week 3 - 12 = Primobolan depot @400mg per week
Week 1 – 18 = Proviron @40mg ED
Week 1 – 6 = Tbol Kickstart @ 40mg ED
Week 13 – 18 = Anavar at 60mg ED
Week 19 - 23 = PCT 1 as per the sample cycles
HCG from week 1 @ 500ui weekly

Questions:

1 - I would love to extend my Test E for some more weeks, is this advisable?
2 - I want to drop the Anavar, as I struggle with high liver enzymes, what can you recommend as replacement?
3 - Can I use the Primo as bridge till PCT starts, if this is an option on question no 2 above?

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17 Aug 2016 08:34 #202727 by Rooi Bul 86
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Hi bud.

Shire you can extend the test E but not really past 16weeks it is going to suppress you more and make recovery harder.
It is not advised to run a compound without a test base so you might have difficulty using the Primo depot as a bridge why not bridge out on Proviron...

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17 Aug 2016 10:57 #202735 by Spazzz
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Thx Rooi Bul - kinda though that would be the recommendation :) i want to up my primo for the next next 6 weeks then, would you asvise this? And what dosage?

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17 Aug 2016 12:28 #202737 by Rooi Bul 86
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Its your first time on Primo so don't go over 600mg. That said Primo is generally well tolerated up to 800mg. I am sure Oupa and 00Pump can better advise on this

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17 Aug 2016 16:16 #202739 by Oupa
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600mg Primo is more than you'll ever need.
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17 Aug 2016 17:07 #202742 by Spazzz
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Great thx Rooi Bul and Oupa. I will push the test to week 16 with the primo at 600mg per week. And then bridge with proviron.

As allways gents - thx for your help!! Much appreciated

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17 Aug 2016 21:27 #202745 by Oupa
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Bridge with Proviron only?

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17 Aug 2016 22:02 #202748 by Spazzz
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Hi Oupa.

I want to try and get away from the anavar as im still concerned about my liver enzymes. If u have a recommendation what to take instead of anavar for my bridge, it would be highly appreciated!! I wanted to keep the test and primo going till week 16, and then start with my bridge.

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22 Aug 2016 09:54 #202835 by Oupa
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No anavar & Proviron is a solid bridge

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22 Aug 2016 10:03 #202837 by Spazzz
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Oupa wrote: No anavar & Proviron is a solid bridge


Hi Oupa

Just to clarify- Do u mean i should not take Anavar, and Proviron only will be OK for bridge?

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22 Aug 2016 10:07 - 22 Aug 2016 10:07 #202838 by Oupa
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Spazzz wrote: Great thx Rooi Bul and Oupa. I will push the test to week 16 with the primo at 600mg per week. And then bridge with proviron.

As allways gents - thx for your help!! Much appreciated


You said this, so i red you will bridge with Proviron only... but in your main post you had anavar.

So leave it at anavar & proviron
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22 Aug 2016 10:11 #202839 by Spazzz
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Oupa wrote:

Spazzz wrote: Great thx Rooi Bul and Oupa. I will push the test to week 16 with the primo at 600mg per week. And then bridge with proviron.

As allways gents - thx for your help!! Much appreciated


You said this, so i red you will bridge with Proviron only... but in your main post you had anavar.

So leave it at anavar & proviron


Thx oupa

The thing is i wanted to leave the anavar, as im concerned about my liver enzymes. So then only bridge with Proviron, and wanted to check if this will be ok?

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22 Aug 2016 10:27 #202840 by Oupa
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Anavar is mild on the system, a few drinks do more damage
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22 Aug 2016 11:27 #202843 by Spazzz
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Ok cool - maybe just my paranoia kicking in.. I will then just stick to 40mg pd

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22 Aug 2016 15:50 #202853 by Oupa
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40mg Anavar is geld mors vir 5 weke.

Wats jou stats?

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22 Aug 2016 15:56 #202854 by Spazzz
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Age - 35
Weight - 87
Lenth - 1.86
BF +- 13%
Training 5x pw
Clean diet at least 6x days per week

Eks net heavy paranoid oor my ou lewertjie :) :)
Het so rukkie terug my lewer gaan toets weer. Bietjie beter uitslae, maar ek wil maar net versigtig en veilig wees, want enzymes was nog in die rooi.....!

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22 Aug 2016 16:03 - 22 Aug 2016 16:04 #202855 by Oupa
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Jys nie n klein oukie nie, so ek stel voor 60mg minimum vir 5 weke, maar 80mg is die sweet spot vir 5weke. 40mg is regtig tyd mors.
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22 Aug 2016 16:43 #202856 by Spazzz
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Thx oupa!!

So ek hoef nie te worry oor liver enzymes obviously? Ek gebruik essentiale extreme ook elke dag en omega tabs

Thx weereens vir jou advies!

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