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VonD wrote: GH does play a role though.
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CHAPEL wrote: didn't wanna start a whole new section for this so just gonna post it in here..
Go have a look at this kid: www.facebook.com/pages/Dakota-Wilcox/200674793289047
He is 17 and blatantly on gear imo.. what astounds me is it is his father who does everything for him
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Theodoric wrote: My beard was like that by the time I was his age...
All the other factors considered, definitely on the juice. Though this does not shock me, at school I saw many juicers.When I was in school, our 1st team wing used to be skinny, and I mean really skinny when he was still playing for the younger age groups (u/14, 15, 16 A). Fast, but skinny. Then when he didn't make 1st XV (reason being he was too small), started going to the gym and be fore we knew it he was bigger than a lot of the forwards we know. What was most obvious that he was using was his face, going from a really skinny face to that really bloated look. Our biokineticist at the gym even started calling him and our No.8 "Diana" and "Deca"
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