Personal Top 3 Bodybuilders and why.

Deadgoat wrote: If 00pump knew what he knows at 16 I doubt he'd have the problems he has now, but if someone knows what they are doing and understands the risks then I see no problem at all with starting young if they want to make a living from the sport.

@chapel yeah unfortunately there's a lot of big guys who are either very malicious or very stupid giving out advise and they are the ones who give gear a bad name

Lol not saying I know everything but I know enough and look how much kak I got on that years on cycle thread... Lol. 00pump would still probably have ended up with a lot of kak if he started at 16 even if he knew everything he knows now.

Check the photos of that russian kid there. He is bone dry in the pics, don't tell me he only ran primo and test. I am sure he did tren, I just don't think its good. They want to be the best too quickly and then run compounds that are too harsh for their age

Lol the blast/cruise strategy isn't the worst idea ever but it certainly isn't the safest, yeah 00pump would still have health problems but nowhere near the ones he currently has. If he'd started at 16 with primo and test for 20 weeks once a year I doubt he'd have much sides at all (besides the gyno of course)

Well let's look at it this way, Arnold won his 1st Olympia at 21 (I think), Lee Haney won 8 by 31 and back then they didn't know as much about gear as we do now. Most Pros reach their peak by 35 and you don't get too many 1st time winners over the age of 35 think Ronnie and Dex may have been the oldest. So that 23 year old Andrej is well on course to possibly competing at the Olympia around 26-27 which is young but still older than the old pros who won it a few times by then

He's too short to win the 0. Next to a taller guy he will be dwarfted so no. He is too heavy for the 202 mr 0 also so he is screwed. I actually think they juiced more in that time. Think about it logically. They didn't have the knowledge we have today.. No shakes not such a broad understanding on what to eat or how your body responds to training... They didn't go "off" in my opinion and abused orals heavily

Safehouse wrote: Anyone seen this young Russian? Andrej Skoromny, 22yrs.

22? He looks ready to step on the Olympia stage! :blink:

My point exactly! The old guys abused the stuff, competed at a young age and lived to have grandkids. Now where's the harm in allowing todays kids do the same but with more knowledge and better quality gear?

As for our boy Andrej how tall is he? He looks around 5'10-6'0 which is about the same height as previous Mr Os, again he's only 22 remember how small Ronnie was at 22 compared to him at 32?

His legs are much too small for that. Lol

Andrej Skoromny is quite the little guy.. :blink:

Deadgoat wrote: My point exactly! The old guys abused the stuff, competed at a young age and lived to have grandkids. Now where's the harm in allowing todays kids do the same but with more knowledge and better quality gear?

As for our boy Andrej how tall is he? He looks around 5'10-6'0 which is about the same height as previous Mr Os, again he's only 22 remember how small Ronnie was at 22 compared to him at 32?

Alexey is like 5'3
I don't know how tall andre is bud. Lol people are overprotective on here that's why... I share your views deadgoat but you must understand we can't advocate it to others. That would be reckless

I think I was 5'3 in grade 5 :lol: thought he was competing at the 202s and narrowly lost to one of my favourites Flex Lewis?

Yeah definitely can't advocate underage juicing indiscriminately, that certainly would be reckless. I rate we should open up a supp store and sell anadrol and dbol under the counter and tell kids to "take 5 a day for the next 8 weeks and you'll look just like Ronnie" :lol: you in?

a certain chain already beat you to that idea.. sorry..

You referring to a certain chain that has a location in their name, but ironically enough don't have a branch open (well, not anymore!) in that specific location?

Deadgoat wrote: I think I was 5'3 in grade 5 :lol: thought he was competing at the 202s and narrowly lost to one of my favourites Flex Lewis?

Yeah definitely can't advocate underage juicing indiscriminately, that certainly would be reckless. I rate we should open up a supp store and sell anadrol and dbol under the counter and tell kids to "take 5 a day for the next 8 weeks and you'll look just like Ronnie" :lol: you in?

Hahaha, I'm in. We charge them x2 as well because its the anadrol ronnie used not just any anadrol :lol:
If we made pills out plain flour for example, stick a dbol label on there and sell the shit and made sure those kids ate correctly they would build nicely... Its sad that they think they need drugs to build muscle... I mean between 14 and 20 you can easily build 1kg muscle a month.. Given your diet is correct so what's the use in running a cycle? I'd bet if there were two kids, and we let dj tell him how to eat and the other one we just give test and no advice that the one without gear and a proper diet will be built just as good.

CHAPEL wrote: a certain chain already beat you to that idea.. sorry..

I think they could use the competition

jakes wrote: Hahaha, I'm in. We charge them x2 as well because its the anadrol ronnie used not just any anadrol :lol:
If we made pills out plain flour for example, stick a dbol label on there and sell the shit and made sure those kids ate correctly they would build nicely... Its sad that they think they need drugs to build muscle... I mean between 14 and 20 you can easily build 1kg muscle a month.. Given your diet is correct so what's the use in running a cycle? I'd bet if there were two kids, and we let dj tell him how to eat and the other one we just give test and no advice that the one without gear and a proper diet will be built just as good.

haha yeah sounds like a plan, I'll prepare the business plan so long so we can get an FNB Business Loan, spread the word around your gym that you'll be selling "the stuff He-Man was on" :lol:

Mmmmm our bodies can only synthesize 1kg of dry muscle every 2 months bud, and that experiment would only work on lowish doses (sub 500mg), if I gave a kid 1g test with 700mg deca he'll outgrow a "dietboy" anyday, but I get your point

But that's like 1.4g of hormone lol. Give the kid on the better diet 500mg and he will outgrow the boy on 700mg deca and 700mg test.

I don't know bro, I speak from personal experience. I was like 69 or so kg when I started in grade 10. I was like 89 or so at 18. And my diet wasn't brilliant, 9eggs, 300-600g meat, half a bread and like a 600g potatos, 2l milk and a shake daily.. And I added a good amount of muscle in those 2 years.

No no no no, the scenario was geared-kid with shitty diet vs ungeared kid with great diet There was no dosage limitaions, take it thats you conceding defeat?

I started at 60kg almost 4 years ago and now I'm up to 95kg so I've also got a bit of experience. The thing is most people look about the same between 13-18% body fat, so when working off the mirror and the scale even though your weight goes up and you look the same in the mirror you most likely also gained a bit of fat as well not to mention water