First cycle planning and log.

I intend for this cycle to start at the end of August.
The cycle itself is not set in stone yet, but I have a general idea of what it will be.

Week 1-12: Test C 250g x 2 weekly
Week 1-4/6: Optional oral
I've asked around a lot and done some reading. I might skip the kickstarter oral completely. If I do decide on an oral it likely won't be dbol, but rather anavar or tbol due to me not knowing how sensitive I am to estrogen sides so combining test and dbol from the start is not something I want to do now, but I definitely intend on trying dbol in the future.

HCG still undecided. Some say run it from week 4 till last test pin just before pct.
Others say run it for the last 3-4 weeks of cycle. So I'll wait for input on that.

For pct I would like to follow pct on the beginner cycle thread, but considering Clomid @ 50 mg ED for 14 days instead of 100 mg ED for 7.


My current supplement stack is;
Glucosamine and chondroitin
Whey protein
Multivitamin

I take Flomist every day for allergies and occasionally lanzoloc for acid reflux.

If anyone has any contraindications, please post it. I'm malleable. Also posted this on my phone so it might look a little wonky.
What do you guys about SARMS, should I try to implement them in my first cycle?

Thanks and I'm super excited!

Sorry I forgot to add and cannot edit any longer.

You'll notice the omission of any bridge, this is intentional - thus far I don't plan on doing one until closer to the time, then I shall decide.

Hi Dru. What's your stats and goals?

IK

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IronKobra767 wrote: Hi Dru. What's your stats and goals?

IK

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1.58m
70kg
12% bf

Goal is to bulk.

DruOmedra wrote: Sorry I forgot to add and cannot edit any longer.

You'll notice the omission of any bridge, this is intentional - thus far I don't plan on doing one until closer to the time, then I shall decide.

Is there an 'edit' button at the bottom right of your first post?

Pyroclasm wrote:

DruOmedra wrote: Sorry I forgot to add and cannot edit any longer.

You'll notice the omission of any bridge, this is intentional - thus far I don't plan on doing one until closer to the time, then I shall decide.

Is there an 'edit' button at the bottom right of your first post?

Atm, no - there usually is but it disappears after some time (1 hour maybe?)

Decided to get SARM's so long, Ostarine and RAD140. Very interested in LGD-4033 (now known as VK-5211) atm.
First AAS cycle is still scheduled as per normal.

Go read my cycle log from around this time last year. Lots of good info from the others and pretty much exactly what you're planning with all the "undecided" factors being answered.

Test cyp, Tbol as a Kickstart, HCG from week 4 to PCT, letrozole as AI, Winstrol and proviron as a bridge and Clomid and Nolvadex as PCT. Schedule and doses are in the log.

I personally didn't enjoy Winstrol and so kicked off with DBol and bridged with TBol in my next cycle. Much better in my opinion.

Also agree on running Clomid at 50mg for 14 days as opposed to 100 for 7.

Cheers.

Iron K.

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www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/4-cycle...cle-log?limitstart=0

Found it thanks. Will give it a read!

Does anyone know where to get insulin needles?

I'm planning on backloading them.

Slin pins from dischem
If you suffer reflux and decide to use an oral prepare for this reflux to intensify drastically, I have the same problem. Just a pre-warning , this will keep you up at night but luckily it's a short period but still sucks. I'm on chronic meds for that and the orals still win that war.

FIllet wrote: Slin pins from dischem
If you suffer reflux and decide to use an oral prepare for this reflux to intensify drastically, I have the same problem. Just a pre-warning , this will keep you up at night but luckily it's a short period but still sucks. I'm on chronic meds for that and the orals still win that war.

Thanks man I will give you karma.

The reason I ask is because of this video:


I don't see slin pins listed on their website, I was hoping to have to avoid the whole 'oh uhm, can I get some needles please' situations. I do see they have a bunch of other needles listed though so I'll decide on that.


I do get acid reflux, not that bad but I do suffer from it time to time and at one point was on some meds for it. (you take it 45 mins before food not after like gaviscon)

Hi Dru,

I think the needles on the slin pin are to small, length and gauge wise.
The cype250 is an oil based liquid so it's to thick.
Get a 23 gauge needle I thick they are about 1 inch or 1.5 inches long because you inject inner muscular.
Everything is available from dischem, syringes, needles and swaps.
I used the 3ml syringes.

Also look at my next cycle "Jono 2nd cycle"
Something similar to your but I added a couple of stuff to help.
You can always change as you like.

Jono

Jono wrote: Hi Dru,

I think the needles on the slin pin are to small, length and gauge wise.
The cype250 is an oil based liquid so it's to thick.
Get a 23 gauge needle I thick they are about 1 inch or 1.5 inches long because you inject inner muscular.
Everything is available from dischem, syringes, needles and swaps.
I used the 3ml syringes.

Also look at my next cycle "Jono 2nd cycle"
Something similar to your but I added a couple of stuff to help.
You can always change as you like.

Jono

Thanks man, appreciate it. Well you guys have used the stuff and I haven't so I'll take your word for it. Would be convenient using dischem aswell.

Really excited can't wait to start

Dru I didn't know you wanted to stick your oils in with a slin pin I was merely advising where to get them. It can be done but personally I stick with a 22g twice per week as each of my pins are 2.5ml of oil and a slin pin won't be in my best interest (5ml per week). Its best to get that oil deep into that muscle. Dischem you get your pins off the counter so there is no asking although sometimes I use the local pharmacy and at that pharmacy its over the counter, pitching up in a vest and asking for 22g needles and syringes they always comment or straight out ask if its for steroids due to the gauge of the needle, you learn to not give a shit what they think and in a pharmacy full of people I say yes its for my steroids. After years of juice you just don't give a damn what they think buddy. It doesn't seem to phase them anyway and they can see you are on the juice, probably just seeking confirmation for their own curiosity.

Many Pros shoot their oils with slin pins as they believe the small gauge causes less scar tissue. It can be done but you would have to heat up your oil and be very very very patient

I've never been asked what the needles are for, then again I've never given them a chance to ask me, I walk in, say what i want, I even discuss with my wife while I'm getting saying oh do I have enough 5mls or do I have enough slin pins.. I'm not in the chemist to make conversation with the pharmacists but to buy what I need.

Quality responses guys, thanks I appreciate it!

Well, should be starting this soon

Okay guys, well here it is.

I'll be starting this as soon.

I've decided to use 10mg Sdrol as a kickstarter for 3-4 weeks depending on how I handle it. For the first few days I'm gonna take 5mg just in case I get a super negative reaction.

I'd also decided against 500mg test/week. I'm going to pin 175 x 2 = 350mg/week. The reasoning behind that can be found in this video; but essentially it boils down to less is sometimes more especially when you're first starting. I can always up it to 500 next cycle.

Also decided to get Adex and Aro in conjunction with the usual PCT drugs. I've read that Aro is better, but might give hair loss or other sides, so I got Adex in case I need to switch.

I'm also aware that at such a dosage I might not even need an anti e.

For liver protection I decided to get;
www.takealot.com/solal-milk-thistle-extract-90s/PLID41400491
www.takealot.com/essentiale-extreme-50-capsules/PLID32706049

If you think there's anything else I need let me know, but I think I'm all set for now.

Haven't watched the video, but I wouldn't waste my time with 350mg Cyp per week, go 500.

If you wanted to use 900mg test for your first cycle then I would advise you use 600mg because less is more, in other words similar gains but no unnecessary side effects. But 'less is more' is also used to justify bad decisions like the one here. If you use between 200-400mg test per week then less is not more, less is useless and you get full HPTA shutdown with little gains. Go for 500-600mg Test for your first cycle for massive gains and little to zero sides.

Schmidt wrote: Haven't watched the video, but I wouldn't waste my time with 350mg Cyp per week, go 500.

I don't see any video? Just link to a website.
350 is more than enough, my first cycle was 200/week for 15 weeks and I gained 7kgs. Strength went up every two weeks, people still asked "brah spuit Jy"?

Yes that's no typo, 200/week. One injection.

Sorry I forgot to add the video link;



I trust everything that channel says, the realest channel on YouTube at the moment.

RedIsDead wrote:

Schmidt wrote: Haven't watched the video, but I wouldn't waste my time with 350mg Cyp per week, go 500.

I don't see any video? Just link to a website.
350 is more than enough, my first cycle was 200/week for 15 weeks and I gained 7kgs. Strength went up every two weeks, people still asked "brah spuit Jy"?

Yes that's no typo, 200/week. One injection.

If you were happy with 7kg in 15 weeks then it's all good