First cycle planning and log.

Schmidt wrote:

RedIsDead wrote:

Schmidt wrote: Haven't watched the video, but I wouldn't waste my time with 350mg Cyp per week, go 500.

I don't see any video? Just link to a website.
350 is more than enough, my first cycle was 200/week for 15 weeks and I gained 7kgs. Strength went up every two weeks, people still asked "brah spuit Jy"?

Yes that's no typo, 200/week. One injection.

If you were happy with 7kg in 15 weeks then it's all good

7 kg is fine. Just think what 350 could do.

Good to see you putting in the time here Red. Keep at it bro.

Hit these to over and over and over again.
www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/articles/8-steroid-cycle-basics
www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/articles/9-post-cycle-therapy

You going to want to see why they recommend over 200-350.

Last thing you want to do is waste your time and money pinning.

Maximize that shite.

500-600.

Just bang it.

Been waiting to use that.

RedIsDead wrote:

Schmidt wrote:

RedIsDead wrote:

Schmidt wrote: Haven't watched the video, but I wouldn't waste my time with 350mg Cyp per week, go 500.

I don't see any video? Just link to a website.
350 is more than enough, my first cycle was 200/week for 15 weeks and I gained 7kgs. Strength went up every two weeks, people still asked "brah spuit Jy"?

Yes that's no typo, 200/week. One injection.

If you were happy with 7kg in 15 weeks then it's all good

7 kg is fine. Just think what 350 could do.

750 and you will start to hear colors!

Pyroclasm wrote:

RedIsDead wrote:

Schmidt wrote:

RedIsDead wrote:

Schmidt wrote: Haven't watched the video, but I wouldn't waste my time with 350mg Cyp per week, go 500.

I don't see any video? Just link to a website.
350 is more than enough, my first cycle was 200/week for 15 weeks and I gained 7kgs. Strength went up every two weeks, people still asked "brah spuit Jy"?

Yes that's no typo, 200/week. One injection.

If you were happy with 7kg in 15 weeks then it's all good

7 kg is fine. Just think what 350 could do.

750 and you will start to hear colors!

750 mg of test = schizophrenia confirmed

On a serious note though, got my gear today.

PGW Cyp and everything else LP. Was very impressed with how professional the packaging looks, I didn't realize that the test vials were so small though, they are tiny I could swallow the whole bottle if I wanted. (I'm not sure why that thought came to mind lmao)

First pin was a nightmare lol.

Did everything as I'd learned.
draw with 20g, inject with 23g etc.
Alcohol swap the vial and your ass
wash hands
lubricate the needle
aspirate etc etc.

Yeah, that didn't go according to plan. Everything was 100% until I actually injected into myself. I don't mind needles, but I'm not afraid of them.
I injected, and after about 10 seconds I get pale, my gf looks at me and is like your lips are white. I'm like, lol I can't push - I have no power in my hand. Then I felt nauseous. Pulled out the needle and went to stand over the basin lol.
I really wanted to do it myself, but she ended up injecting me (with a new 23g needle ofc).
Better luck next time.

Oh that and I started at 0.9ml, ended at 0.5ml, because I was being retarded trying to get rid of the air.

I think next time I'll do it myself and see if I can manage.

If not, I'll pin somewhere else more comfortable.

Aaaah shit you made my day. Fkn priceless. +1 for you Dru

LMFAO. That is legend bro.

DruOmedra wrote: First pin was a nightmare lol.

Did everything as I'd learned.
draw with 20g, inject with 23g etc.
Alcohol swap the vial and your ass
wash hands
lubricate the needle
aspirate etc etc.

Yeah, that didn't go according to plan. Everything was 100% until I actually injected into myself. I don't mind needles, but I'm not afraid of them.
I injected, and after about 10 seconds I get pale, my gf looks at me and is like your lips are white. I'm like, lol I can't push - I have no power in my hand. Then I felt nauseous. Pulled out the needle and went to stand over the basin lol.
I really wanted to do it myself, but she ended up injecting me (with a new 23g needle ofc).
Better luck next time.

Oh that and I started at 0.9ml, ended at 0.5ml, because I was being retarded trying to get rid of the air.

Haha, shame man.

Well done on at least attemping to do your 1st pin yourself, unlike me. I still much prefer having someone else do it for me.

One thing though, what did you use to lubricate the needle and why?
You have an immune system, however you'd still want to try keep things as sterile as possible and I would imagine whatever you used to lubricate the needle was not sterile?

As for the air, well, a lil bit won't kill you as it is going into your muscle and not into your vein (you aspirate to make sure its not a vein). Next time rather save that oil, its precious.
I get rid of as much air as I can, without losing the oil. So as soon as I see that drop of oil appear on the end of the needle I stop and inject the rest - I always see air bubbles when I aspirate, never had a problem.

Th@nks-a-ml wrote: Aaaah shit you made my day. Fkn priceless. +1 for you Dru

Lol right back at you man +1

Happy it's at least entertaining and even happier that I at least got 0.5 ml of test in me

PsyCLown wrote:

DruOmedra wrote: First pin was a nightmare lol.

Did everything as I'd learned.
draw with 20g, inject with 23g etc.
Alcohol swap the vial and your ass
wash hands
lubricate the needle
aspirate etc etc.

Yeah, that didn't go according to plan. Everything was 100% until I actually injected into myself. I don't mind needles, but I'm not afraid of them.
I injected, and after about 10 seconds I get pale, my gf looks at me and is like your lips are white. I'm like, lol I can't push - I have no power in my hand. Then I felt nauseous. Pulled out the needle and went to stand over the basin lol.
I really wanted to do it myself, but she ended up injecting me (with a new 23g needle ofc).
Better luck next time.

Oh that and I started at 0.9ml, ended at 0.5ml, because I was being retarded trying to get rid of the air.

Haha, shame man.

Well done on at least attemping to do your 1st pin yourself, unlike me. I still much prefer having someone else do it for me.

One thing though, what did you use to lubricate the needle and why?
You have an immune system, however you'd still want to try keep things as sterile as possible and I would imagine whatever you used to lubricate the needle was not sterile?

As for the air, well, a lil bit won't kill you as it is going into your muscle and not into your vein (you aspirate to make sure its not a vein). Next time rather save that oil, its precious.
I get rid of as much air as I can, without losing the oil. So as soon as I see that drop of oil appear on the end of the needle I stop and inject the rest - I always see air bubbles when I aspirate, never had a problem.

Thanks lol, I really wanna try other spots though. We will see if I can stomach it next time or my gf might as well become my wife if I needed a dedicated pinning partner

By lubricating it I meant I sqeeuze out a bit of the test so that a tiny bit lubes the tip of the needle. I've heard this makes it less painful.

I'm starting to feel pip now - weirdly enough, I pinned the right glute then my gf did the left - idk why but they both went equally deep and I only have pip in the side she injected in. Fascinating.

I lost some of that precious fluid lol, I had an air bubble that wouldn't push out through the tip of the needle, so I uncapped it and then pushed it out no problem.

But I lost some test in this process.

Next time I'll pin better, hopefully.

Good to know the air won't kill me - aspirating is quite difficult.

Don't sweat it man. Enjoy the journey. Fk a wasted drop here and there when learning.

You got a awesome attitude. I dig it.

Now you know why you kept her around LMFAO.

Take care.

P.S I had a swooshing basin episode. Hence the awesome kick I got out of it. Was drinking coffee when I read that post and baaaam that nescafe came blaaaaasting out my nose all over a nice cheap 40k laptop. Think a little pee came out there to bro.

Surprised you never fainted. I also hung in there like a soldier all fkn pale and shit holding on for deal life.

I will not faint I will not I will .... wooohooo I feel kinda of weird.

Killed it at gym today, I know it's too soon to feel any difference, but I felt like I had to give 110%.

On the topic of AI, I've decided to go with Aromasin - seems to be far better than Adex for beginners.

I haven't decided on dosing yet, but the general seems to be 12.5 mg EOD or E3D/pin days on 500mg test. So if I take 350-400 I'll dose accordingly. Some people start it on day 1, some wait until week 2.

What do you guys think?

So the Aromasin capsules are 20mg each.

Gonna take a dose on my next pin day depending on how much I actually manage to inject.

Need a micro scale to weigh it though eh

Pinned quads - err twice lol.

26g needle. Got at least 0.9ml in this time. But I struggled to inject vs the 23g, took really long and almost felt like some oil was coming out the top of my quad the first few seconds, pulled out and injected again.

Aspirated and a bubble seemed to appear - not sure if that is normal - but no nausea I was cool I was chilled not a care in the world.

And ofc I pricked myself capping the damn thing.

The quad pip is real, but not so bad like I'd heard about from people and I technically pinned twice.

Thought I'd give an update here.

It's now 5 days on cycle. Have taken sdrol 10mg every day so far and have injected test C twice.

I pinned not deep enough on quads it seems, because I have some pain by my knee which i believe is caused by the compound either being injected too fast, too low on the quads or too shallow, causing the gear to pool. It will still get absorbed anyways - a learning process.


I still feel the same though, no lethargy at all - which is surprising, I've read logs of people quitting Sdrol as early as day 3 or 4 because of lethargy. I feel exactly the same except mentally I'm more motivated. I am taking milk thistle and essentiale extreme however, maybe that's affected the absorbs-ion or whatever. But its too early to tell and only 10mg, If I don't feel anything in 2 weeks then I have reason to show concern.

Feeling the same on sdrol dru, I've been suggested that increasing your calories will help..just out of curiosity what brand is your sdrol?

It's Liquid Pharmaceuticals Superdrol 10mg.

It's now day 6. I think I'm gonna double the dose if I don't feel any different.

Ironically I've upped everything, carbs, protein, cals and training accordingly especially since I've heard sdrol utilizes carbs well.

Jono77 wrote: Feeling the same on sdrol dru, I've been suggested that increasing your calories will help..just out of curiosity what brand is your sdrol?

I said carbs, not calories especially for you, you're on tren and Superdrol!


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DruOmedra wrote: It's Liquid Pharmaceuticals Superdrol 10mg.

It's now day 6. I think I'm gonna double the dose if I don't feel any different.

Ironically I've upped everything, carbs, protein, cals and training accordingly especially since I've heard sdrol utilizes carbs well.

Ha, interesting.

I too am doing 10mg Sdrol (Liquid Pharma too) a day (as is my gym partner) and both of us have noticed effects, today was day 9 for us though. We have both increased calories and I have increased my carbs quite a bit too.

DOMS has changed from the "ouch, it hurts to walk up the stairs" to a "Ooh, these muscle feel stiff" type of pain. Strength has certainly gone up for both of us as well as stamina as gym sessions are starting to feel great again and you "feel as if you can gym all day long" type of vibe.

I guess it just goes to show how difference everyone is and the way they react to the same substances.



I don't know how you pin quads, I did an HCG pin (yes, with an insulin needle) in my quad and gawd dammit, it stung! I am too scared to try pin quads again. Also I wouldn't recommend a needle any smaller than 24g as then it becomes difficult to get the oil in and out through the needle.

As for the aspirating and bubbles, I have noticed the same and just assume it is air bubbles stuck somewhere between the hilt of the needle and actually inside the needle and when you aspirate you only see it then as it gets sucked back into the syringe. -shrugs-

For the Aromasin, maybe just eye it (roughly half the dose) otherwise look for a gunpowder scale.
When you take a look into how you are meant to calibrate the scales and let them "warm up" a bit before use and so forth, your dose probably won't be 100% accurate unless you are very patient and fork out a bit of money and then you have to take into account Liquid Pharma use fillers to dose the stuff a bit more accurately and you can't be certain how well it really is mixed to begin with. I reckon eye roughly half of the capsule should you wish to take a lower dose of Aromasin.
Be warned, it is a little bitter and the taste lingers should you decide to consume the powder and not re-capsule it.

PsyCLown wrote:

DruOmedra wrote: It's Liquid Pharmaceuticals Superdrol 10mg.

It's now day 6. I think I'm gonna double the dose if I don't feel any different.

Ironically I've upped everything, carbs, protein, cals and training accordingly especially since I've heard sdrol utilizes carbs well.

Ha, interesting.

I too am doing 10mg Sdrol (Liquid Pharma too) a day (as is my gym partner) and both of us have noticed effects, today was day 9 for us though. We have both increased calories and I have increased my carbs quite a bit too.

DOMS has changed from the "ouch, it hurts to walk up the stairs" to a "Ooh, these muscle feel stiff" type of pain. Strength has certainly gone up for both of us as well as stamina as gym sessions are starting to feel great again and you "feel as if you can gym all day long" type of vibe.

I guess it just goes to show how difference everyone is and the way they react to the same substances.



I don't know how you pin quads, I did an HCG pin (yes, with an insulin needle) in my quad and gawd dammit, it stung! I am too scared to try pin quads again. Also I wouldn't recommend a needle any smaller than 24g as then it becomes difficult to get the oil in and out through the needle.

As for the aspirating and bubbles, I have noticed the same and just assume it is air bubbles stuck somewhere between the hilt of the needle and actually inside the needle and when you aspirate you only see it then as it gets sucked back into the syringe. -shrugs-

For the Aromasin, maybe just eye it (roughly half the dose) otherwise look for a gunpowder scale.
When you take a look into how you are meant to calibrate the scales and let them "warm up" a bit before use and so forth, your dose probably won't be 100% accurate unless you are very patient and fork out a bit of money and then you have to take into account Liquid Pharma use fillers to dose the stuff a bit more accurately and you can't be certain how well it really is mixed to begin with. I reckon eye roughly half of the capsule should you wish to take a lower dose of Aromasin.
Be warned, it is a little bitter and the taste lingers should you decide to consume the powder and not re-capsule it.

Thanks man, I will give karma you again now.

That is really what I wanted to know - I know LP is a reputable brand because everyone here loves them, so finding out you're using it as well puts my mind at ease.
That's awesome though I am glad you are liking it and getting results from it quickly, have you gotten any like heartburn from it?

Heh, well I will finish my routine, there's still time for it to kick in, but I'll take 20mg on my next workout day and see if anything happens.

I'm actually wondering if it's possible to not respond to AAS at all, like having a low androgen receptor count or something weird like that heh.


Heh, nice, I really wanted to use an insulin needle to pin, but couldn't find any so just utilized 23 and 26g so far. Yeah, it does sting a lot lol, today I had this pain in my leg felt like a bruise and hobbled around a bit. That being said, I am happpy it wasn't worse - the first thing that popped up when I googled quad pip was 'quad pip help I can't walk' and 'quad pip can't stand' so I figured I'm off lucky heh.
Yeah I noticed with the 23g, it was over quickly, 26g it took really long. I shudder at the thought of sticking that 23g in my leg though.


Fair enough, I ended up taking half the capsule on one day and the other half the morning of the next day. Don't feel any different at all so far, no high or low e symptoms, it's weird because I did so much research on everything that feeling completely normal is actually frustrating me haha.



That being said, only time will tell and I must be patient here Thanks man appreciate you taking the time to respond!

DruOmedra wrote: It's Liquid Pharmaceuticals Superdrol 10mg.

It's now day 6. I think I'm gonna double the dose if I don't feel any different.

Ironically I've upped everything, carbs, protein, cals and training accordingly especially since I've heard sdrol utilizes carbs well.

I'm also using LP at the moment,today I'm bumbing it up to 20mg. Seems like at least 3 of us are using LP sdrol right now it will be interesting get to see the effects on each of us.

Good luck ahead brother!

@ Dru

I also favour LP orals me and my friends only source and use LP orals and we have yet to be disappointed.

Most of us get heartburn or acid reflux on orals but I have noticed that it is worse with certain compounds so nothing to worry about it does get better after about two weeks

Jono77 wrote:

DruOmedra wrote: It's Liquid Pharmaceuticals Superdrol 10mg.

It's now day 6. I think I'm gonna double the dose if I don't feel any different.

Ironically I've upped everything, carbs, protein, cals and training accordingly especially since I've heard sdrol utilizes carbs well.

I'm also using LP at the moment,today I'm bumbing it up to 20mg. Seems like at least 3 of us are using LP sdrol right now it will be interesting get to see the effects on each of us.

Good luck ahead brother!

+1

Thanks you too!

If the Sdrol ends up not working for me I wanna try another oral, maybe dbol, tbol or even an injectable anything that works fast - I really want that kickstarter feel.