First cycle planning and log.

Rooi Bul 86 wrote: @ Dru

I also favour LP orals me and my friends only source and use LP orals and we have yet to be disappointed.

Most of us get heartburn or acid reflux on orals but I have noticed that it is worse with certain compounds so nothing to worry about it does get better after about two weeks

That's good to know.

What is your preferred oral?

I get what youre saying,I want the same thing..I'm on day 10 of sdrol and I'm only feeling the boost now,starting with 20mg today split so I'll probably feel it tomorrow or thereafter..I guess we need to be a bit patient with sdrol

I have only ran Dianabol. Turinabol. Anavar. Winstrol. And Proviron. Not all at once though. I really favour Anavar but if Winstrol did not make my joints feel 80years old and make my hair fall out so bad it would have been my favourite. But stay tuned as I have something in the works as soon as my bf is at or below 10% might be a while though as I want to get to 12% natural and only then go with Anabolics

Alrighty well if sdrol doesn't work I'll shop around and see what I can find

Patience is a virtue...
Also remember Superdrol is powerful but not magical.

Sdrol is good but the lethargy you get on it is unbearable! Rather take something else...

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Took 10mg this morning and 10mg 2 hours before gym.

Felt no different than before.

missiondh wrote: Sdrol is good but the lethargy you get on it is unbearable! Rather take something else...

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What dosage did you take?

I feel no lethargy or any other side effects - Just had a gym session and it was actually pretty average tbh starting to feel like there's something wrong with me lol, it's depressing tbh.

Anyways, gotta inject another 250mg tonight. Gonna try triceps or glutes haven't decided.

Just pinned tricep and quad.

0.5ml in each

Why both? Well, because I want to familiarize myself with pinning tbh. Quad bled a little, last time it barely bled at all, not sure what would cause it to bleed more this time.

Tricep went fucking perfect - in, slow inject, out, virtually no bleeding. Injected the lateral head with a 26g.

Another 20mg down the hatch, let's see how today goes. It's chest day, my strongest day, so if there's any, albeit tiny, increment I will notice it.

So far no morning wood or testicular shrinkage.

Quad feels fine, no pip.
Tricep feels okay, a little sore from pip.

I'm enjoying finding locations to inject so far.

Tomorrow will be shot #4. Been pinning 250mg/week so far and will do so till the end of the cycle.

Looking forward to week 4, that's apparently when it'll start kicking in hard.

Till then though, I'll just keep pinning.

Enjoy it

Whoops made a typo in previous post, meant to say 250mg x 2 for a total of 500 per week.

00pump wrote: Enjoy it

Thanks 00pump

Pinned 0.5ml in quad and 0.5ml in tricep

Getting nervous when I pin for some reason, even though I'm not scared at all. Weird. I suppose you get used to it.

I don't get pip in my quad as bad as I did the first time. Pinned with a 25g this time.

I was stronger in the gym today, not massively stronger, but stronger. Not sure if it's the test or the sdrol, but it was a 5kg increase on barbell curls, which I suppose is a good amount for that type of movement.

Think my libido might be increasing, because I'm pretty horny around my gf - I always was before, but it seems a little more over the top than usual.

That being said, things are looking up now

DruOmedra wrote:

missiondh wrote: Sdrol is good but the lethargy you get on it is unbearable! Rather take something else...

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What dosage did you take?

I feel no lethargy or any other side effects - Just had a gym session and it was actually pretty average tbh starting to feel like there's something wrong with me lol, it's depressing tbh.

Anyways, gotta inject another 250mg tonight. Gonna try triceps or glutes haven't decided.

20-30mgs. Hits me after the 1st week everytime. It is a good drug....

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30mg for more than 3 weeks will make you feel very kak at random times during the day

5 kg increase on bench press

You can do 10kg easy

Oupa wrote: You can do 10kg easy

Heh I'll try again in 3 days time

A 10kg increase will be awesome.

Also had a 2.5kg increase on db inclines after the flat bench so that's really something. Just gotta take care not to injury

Glad to see you are finally starting to notice some changes Dru.

In terms of orals I have tried Dbol, Winstrol and now SD and without a doubt the SD is my favorite oral. Dbol I did not feel did all that much for me really except for perhaps make me a bit puffy.
Winstrol - it is a bit tricky to say as it was around the bridge time but overall I did not notice much in the strength increase where as my gym partner loooved the winstrol and became a loot stronger on it.

Today is day 16 for me and I am starting to notice a bit more of a change, I suspect the test might be making its way into my system or the SD has perhaps built up as my weight has increased a bit in the past few days and my forehead is getting a bit oiler I think (although it is getting hotter, so could be the heat). I am still on 10mg SD and in terms of lethargy, if I had not read that a lot of people feel lethargic on it I would not have noticed much of a difference.
At best every few days around lunch time I feel a bit tired and drained, but could just be due to the large lunch and/or work. Around gym time I am generally fine again and have no issues completing my workout.

Weights are going up and I am feeling great after the sets and highly motivated!
I do not know how you pin triceps, I am too scared to try quads again and am not keen to try pin in my triceps. It just sounds super painful, I love pinning in my glutes.
Also always aspirate when pinning IM!!

Tricep hurts a bit. Injected into lateral head, area is a bit red and warm. Not at the injection site, just slightly around it a cm or so. Was worried about infection, googled it and it seems normal though. Will monitor.

maybe its cause I trained it today the pip feels almost like really deep DOMS.

PsyCLown wrote: Glad to see you are finally starting to notice some changes Dru.

In terms of orals I have tried Dbol, Winstrol and now SD and without a doubt the SD is my favorite oral. Dbol I did not feel did all that much for me really except for perhaps make me a bit puffy.
Winstrol - it is a bit tricky to say as it was around the bridge time but overall I did not notice much in the strength increase where as my gym partner loooved the winstrol and became a loot stronger on it.

Today is day 16 for me and I am starting to notice a bit more of a change, I suspect the test might be making its way into my system or the SD has perhaps built up as my weight has increased a bit in the past few days and my forehead is getting a bit oiler I think (although it is getting hotter, so could be the heat). I am still on 10mg SD and in terms of lethargy, if I had not read that a lot of people feel lethargic on it I would not have noticed much of a difference.
At best every few days around lunch time I feel a bit tired and drained, but could just be due to the large lunch and/or work. Around gym time I am generally fine again and have no issues completing my workout.

Weights are going up and I am feeling great after the sets and highly motivated!
I do not know how you pin triceps, I am too scared to try quads again and am not keen to try pin in my triceps. It just sounds super painful, I love pinning in my glutes.
Also always aspirate when pinning IM!!

Thanks man. Yeah I been aspirating every time, sometimes it's rather hard to aspirate with the angle of the syringe and to get the plunger properly. It causes movement aka more scar tissue but I do it anyways. Usually it just moves back, sometimes some air comes in, weird sight but apparently normal. Never had any blood so far.

That's good, I'm glad the sdrol is working for you. It's weird how everyone reacts differently, the good news is that sdrol, dbol and winny are the least likely to be faked.

Heh I actually wanna film myself pinning next time just to get some insight. Haven't tried heating up the oil yet despite knowing it's possible - should do that next time but testocyp injects easily regardless.

Glad your strength is going up man, excited for you
Also glad I'm getting some gains here, I was getting worried after reading everyone's first cycle is so amazing, gaining 15-20 lbs etc etc lol

Have you ever considered cruising on a low dose instead of doing cycles?

DruOmedra wrote:

PsyCLown wrote: Glad to see you are finally starting to notice some changes Dru.

In terms of orals I have tried Dbol, Winstrol and now SD and without a doubt the SD is my favorite oral. Dbol I did not feel did all that much for me really except for perhaps make me a bit puffy.
Winstrol - it is a bit tricky to say as it was around the bridge time but overall I did not notice much in the strength increase where as my gym partner loooved the winstrol and became a loot stronger on it.

Today is day 16 for me and I am starting to notice a bit more of a change, I suspect the test might be making its way into my system or the SD has perhaps built up as my weight has increased a bit in the past few days and my forehead is getting a bit oiler I think (although it is getting hotter, so could be the heat). I am still on 10mg SD and in terms of lethargy, if I had not read that a lot of people feel lethargic on it I would not have noticed much of a difference.
At best every few days around lunch time I feel a bit tired and drained, but could just be due to the large lunch and/or work. Around gym time I am generally fine again and have no issues completing my workout.

Weights are going up and I am feeling great after the sets and highly motivated!
I do not know how you pin triceps, I am too scared to try quads again and am not keen to try pin in my triceps. It just sounds super painful, I love pinning in my glutes.
Also always aspirate when pinning IM!!

Thanks man. Yeah I been aspirating every time, sometimes it's rather hard to aspirate with the angle of the syringe and to get the plunger properly. It causes movement aka more scar tissue but I do it anyways. Usually it just moves back, sometimes some air comes in, weird sight but apparently normal. Never had any blood so far.

That's good, I'm glad the sdrol is working for you. It's weird how everyone reacts differently, the good news is that sdrol, dbol and winny are the least likely to be faked.

Heh I actually wanna film myself pinning next time just to get some insight. Haven't tried heating up the oil yet despite knowing it's possible - should do that next time but testocyp injects easily regardless.

Glad your strength is going up man, excited for you
Also glad I'm getting some gains here, I was getting worried after reading everyone's first cycle is so amazing, gaining 15-20 lbs etc etc lol

Have you ever considered cruising on a low dose instead of doing cycles?

Yeah, I get air when I aspirate as well. I have had blood before too (when I was pinning my friend). Had to pull out and pin again.

If you are using actual Liquid Pharma orals and PGW oils I wouldn't worry about getting fake gear. I think it is Masteron which is generally fake, however I feel confident in purchasing PGW mast and knowing it is actually mast.

As for 1st cycle and gains, lots of things come into play. Eating properly and working out probably being the two biggest, I feel as if eating properly is something which is overlooked more when on cycle as generally you feel great in the gym and want to push for heavier weights (at least that is my experience).
My first cycle I only really started to feel the test kick in around week 5 where I hear most people say week 4. When the test kicked in is when I really started to notice the gains which were faaaar superior to the gains I got from dbol.

Make sure your up your calories enough as well. The way I look at it now is when I am on cycle I would rather over eat a bit and make the most of my bulk, I can do some cutting later on. Do not want to waste a cycle and go through PCT and recovery for less gains than I could have had.
PCT isn't fun, well, actually... Clomid is shit and after Nolvadex things don't get much better for a while either as I was comparing the weight I was doing to the weights I use to do and looking at my size compared to when I was on cycle and had that water and extra glycogen and so forth.


As for cruising as opposed to cycling. I have thought about, many times. It is quite tempting.
My biggest concern with that is fertility as I am only 25 (well before the end of the year) and I want children, I realize that even doing a cycle and proper PCT can lead to fertility issues although cruising will just make things worse.

I have heard of certain chemicals which can be used to help kickstart your natural test production after long periods of cycling however there is still no guarantee it will work - I won't mention the name of said chemical as it seems to be frowned upon on this forum, although it is being used for male chemical castration...

As for blasting permanently, that just seems stupid for your health to be honest.


EDIT: Keep in mind that cruising on a TRT dose of test vs say running a crazy high dose of test (1000mg per week), Deca & Tren leads to the "same amount" of shut down. Once your natural hormones are shut down, they are shut down. Running a TRT dose of test is enough to shut you down, running just orals is enough to shut you down as well. Other injectables by themselves shut you down too and this is the reason why it is always recommended to run test with every cycle.

Thank you PSy, I appreciate the informative responses and it's nice to have people to speak with/relate to. None of my IRL friends lift so I tend to live on forums lately heh.

Had another 5kg strength increase on Barbell Curls, this is getting insane lol. I was like grabbing my usual weights and I just did the curls and halfway through I'm like fuck this I can go heavier.

Looking in the mirror I look a bit fuller, not really bigger, but definitely fuller, as if my muscles are full of glycogen. Weight is going up slightly as well. Up about 1kg ~ since I started.

Gonna pin bicep tomorrow, kinda nervous, might do quads again or glutes will see. But I'm interested in localized growth.

So guys so far I've been taking 20mg aromasin on pin days without issue. That's basically every 4th day.

No sensitive nips or puffy nips so far. I'm assuming gyno sides would have shown by now if my dose was too low? I'm on my third week now.

Either way, I suppose I'm not gyno sensitive I have adex, Clomid nolva asin etc just in case.