First cycle planning and log.

DruOmedra wrote: I think I might be getting sick.

I will take a day off and re-asses. Last thing I wanna do is spread germs to other gymgoers.

Fluish??

PraetorXII wrote:

DruOmedra wrote: I think I might be getting sick.

I will take a day off and re-asses. Last thing I wanna do is spread germs to other gymgoers.

Fluish??

throat, chest and nose

I guess it's that time of the year heh

DruOmedra wrote:

PraetorXII wrote:

DruOmedra wrote: I think I might be getting sick.

I will take a day off and re-asses. Last thing I wanna do is spread germs to other gymgoers.

Fluish??

throat, chest and nose

I guess it's that time of the year heh

Could be testflu? but hey Ibuprofen usually does the trick for me.

PraetorXII wrote:

DruOmedra wrote:

PraetorXII wrote:

DruOmedra wrote: I think I might be getting sick.

I will take a day off and re-asses. Last thing I wanna do is spread germs to other gymgoers.

Fluish??

throat, chest and nose

I guess it's that time of the year heh

Could be testflu? but hey Ibuprofen usually does the trick for me.

I really don't think it's testflu.

I mean I'm 8 weeks in already?

Basically got throat sore, coughing a lot at night mostly, headaches, congestion etc.

I have still been training, albeit lightly and at home. But my diet has gone south, lack of appetite and just feeling bleh.

Gonna weigh myself today and assess the damage done lol/

My bench press is up 20 kg's since I have started this cycle and it's still in the 5-6 rep range.

That's insane, especially considering I was sick for about 5 days and my diet was rather poor due to lack of energy/appetite etc.

But back full speed now, hitting it hard. I have 4 weeks left on this 12 week cycle it will peak!

hows you feeling now boet?

PraetorXII wrote: hows you feeling now boet?

Feeling great, got a cough that is lingering but other than that nothing to worry about.

Weight has stalled somewhat, should add more cals per day, but eish, finding time to squeeze in even more food now is gonna be an issue with busy at work etc. but I'll find a way.

Hey guys, wanted to know if any of ya'll ran into an issue like this before;

I just tried to pin as per usual.

First problem I realize I don't have a 20g or 3ml syringes to draw with. Okay I'll use a 23g and 5ml syringe. Wow okay, this takes forever to draw and it almost causes like thousands of little oxygen bubbles. But it's cool, I pull out, draw back some air, inject into the vial and then draw, same problem but it sped it up a little. Managed to get 1ml.

Then I switch over to a 25g to inject, needle won't go in quad, hmm okay push harder - thinking might be scar tissue, I feel like a pulse down my quad, almost like a feeling of 'don't do this'. Pull out the tip, change to another 25g. Move pin site slightly and try again - same result. Rather frustrating.

Decide to change to other quad, same problem. Getting really confused and frustrated because its 11 weeks in so why suddenly would I forget to know how to pin? Get mad and try to really jab it in there - obviously not like all hulk smash mode but I applied more force than before. Same problem. Decided to call it a day there then.

Blunt needles? I changed the needle on everypin attempt becauise I've seen pictures of what used needles look like.

Eish, I'll try glutes tomorrow, for now, very confused.

Sometimes, when your head is just not in the game, things don't work like they should. Did you lube the needle? Maybe try after you had a bath)shower and are more relaxed... Or best, just get some to pin your ass for you. Take it easy

Tried again, quad, same spot, just to make sure. Same resistance, though this time I was able to get it deeper, it felt unnatural, hard to push in - aspirated, started to inject, got a shooting pain down my leg.

Now I know what was up.

Pinned glutes perfectly after that - was overall a pleasant experience.

Not gonna lie guys, kind of looking forward to coming off.

Sticking myself with needles is getting really old, really fast.
I still have about 3-4 weeks left in this vial tho so I'll finish it off.

That being said though, time to pump some iron!

How do you guys dispose of needles?

Also would like to donate blood soonish, anyone have any recommendations?

Date a doctor

Pyroclasm wrote: Date a doctor

Lol wouldn't that be a blast

I melt my needles and use it as sinkers when fishing

Donating blood on cycle is a good idea, i donate every 60 days.

DruOmedra wrote: How do you guys dispose of needles?

Also would like to donate blood soonish, anyone have any recommendations?

Put them in a old coffee tin and take it the pharmacy and tune them : sharps disposal.

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Hey guys, got a bit of a dilemma here.

So following my previous quad pins that weren't successful I moved to another location on my quad (found from the spotinjections site). I pinned that perfectly 6 days ago on my right quad. Did the usual routine no problem.

Then two days ago I pinned my left quad in the same spot, everything was fine, no difficulties etc.

However, my leg is red and warm to the touch and quite painful to move. I know it's too soon to say it's an infection and it could just be irritation from the substance + new muscle PIP. But what's weird to me is the redness and pain is not where I injected. The pin was on the upper outer section of the quad, but the redness and pain is on the lateral side of my leg.

I'm thinking substance irritation, as I can't see why it would be an infection. I used alcohol swabs to clean my leg and the vials, the needle went all the way in (25g). The only thing that I think might be the issue is I used the same alcohol swab that I used to clean my leg after the pin to wipe away the blood - but that shouldn't give an intramuscular infection deep into my leg'


Regardless, I'm stressing too much as I doubt it's anything serious, but it is weird. If it gets worse within the next 3-5 days I'll get it checked out.

Feeling better today, will monitor.

Alright then.

Today will be my last pin, then I will wait 36 days before commencing with PCT.

No bridge to pct?

Hmmmmm
Prop and winnies
Take that last prop shot 14 days prior to pct
Try remain as anabolic as possible

I have Sdrol left that I could utilize.

Since the meat of the cycle is now finished, I can overall say it was pretty good. I didn't gain 30+ lbs like a lot of people claimed to have done - but that's fine.

I gained around 18 lbs (8.3kgs) while picking up very little fat, which is awesome. I've weighed more than this before, but I wasn't nearly as lean. Around the 5-9 week mark my weight shot up pretty quickly and then the weight gain slowed down a bit, but the strength didn't.

As for strength, I'm not a big guy - I have a small frame and I'm short so for me to be this strong atm is pretty damn awesome. I only did one 1RM attempt throughout the entire cycle and that was actually after my last pin where I put up 130kg, got it to hit my chest like a clean good rep and then got it up off my chest, but it was hard as hell on my wrists and shoulders. Though I prefer working with 110 and 115 and then busting out sets of 5 reps with those.

So if I had to review my progress for this first basic cycle;

Muscle gain: 8/10
Strength gain: 10/10
Libido: 9/10

Side Effects: None
Aside from paranoia about non-existant gyno and a few pimples on my back, I got no side effects.
I felt exactly the same as before, just stronger and bigger. I had read about some people getting a euphoric feeling while on test, but I didn't experience that.

Reading some of my posts on the first page make me cringe lol, I've learned a lot since joining the forum and taking the plunge.

I plan on staying off for a while now, will update here as I enter PCT stages, seeing as that's an important phase.
So far, no strength loss - which is to be expected since my hormone levels are still elevated.

Some see Steroids as the plunge, some see it as growing wings. The difference between the two is knowledge.

DruOmedra wrote:
I gained around 18 lbs (8.3kgs) while picking up very little fat, which is awesome. I've weighed more than this before, but I wasn't nearly as lean. Around the 5-9 week mark my weight shot up pretty quickly and then the weight gain slowed down a bit, but the strength didn't.

Sounds like you had a great cycle. Strength isn't really important from a physique perspective, and you can get a great pump and growth from doing volume training without risking injury.

It is very common to hit a plateau mid-cycle when it comes to weight gain if you're focusing on lean gains. Most guys work out their cals based on their pre-cycle BMI, but forget to adapt it as they gain muscle and stick to the same diet throughout.

To add to Eidolon I think that amount of gains on a bad dosage is a good sign.