Jono77 cutting cycle

Cycle update, finished my tren 2 weeks ago, strength is still up there. Unfortunately I'm gonna have to cut my cycle a few weeks short, my supplier gave me 1 test vial short and is ignoring my messages..my last pin was Friday and I'm starting my bridge today for 2 weeks.

My strength is pretty good,size not a big difference but I definitely got harder. Haven't weighed myself yet but the girlfriend says I've lost weight

My gyno is as prominent as ever unfortunately.

My wood is sorted now,no problems at all..

Honestly I expected more from the tren and the test, not in terms of size but more in aggression and strength. I don't think I'll use keifei oils again as I feel they are under dosed.

Could you guys help me out here, my muscles are so sore..constantly painful, I get great pumps,good strength but my recovery feels like it's up to shit.

Also I went for an outdoor run today for the first time since I started my cycle and I ran about 1.2km and I couldn't go anymore, the pain in my legs was unbearable,it felt like I had a pump in my shin?

Could my sore muscles be from a poor diet?.. I dont drink protein shakes anymore as I get all my protein from quality foods.

I upped my water to 7l per day and the muscle soreness is gone.

So far strength has remained the same,size took a dip but still harder muscles.

Out of interest,and I've wondered this for quite a while..I've noticed that you guys recommend test c over test e quite often, is there a specific reason for this or just a coincidence?

It's specific to PGW, where the Test-Cyp is painless compared to the Test-En that has quite bite if you don't heat it before the injection.

Thanks for clearing that up pyro.

I started my pct today, clomid at 100mg pd for 7 days then nolvadex for 30 days thereafter.

Feeling great!! I feel better now than on cycle.

I'd appreciate help with my diet construction to drop to 10%bf.

Current stats:
Length 1.94m
Weight 111(gained 5 kg in cycle)
Bf 16-17% (went away for a week and went back a month in my bf)

Goal calories 1600 per day.

Meal 1: 3 eggs and spinach

Meal 2:1x weetbix

Meal 3(after training): steak and couscous

Meal 4:Fish or chicken and veggies

My diet is quite rouggly laid out but it meets my macros at 60%protein 20%carbs and 20%fats.I have no problem sticking within the calorie limit,but I'd like help choosing high protein,low carb foods and laying them out during the day.

I don't expect spoonfeeding,this lifestyle takes trial and error but any guidance is always appreciated. I've got my training down and now it's my diet i need to dial in to maintain as much muscle mass as possible while losing body fat.

If you eat that little during PCT all your gains will be gone in no time bud

Good advice above. Never drop below maintenance calories and focus on fat loss during PCT.

Aaaaah shit..you guys do know best so I'll listen ..my muscles feel and look fuller and that's pretty good.. does clomid cause an unquenchable thirst?
I've used clomid before and I don't know if I didn't notice it but with LP it feels like I haven't had a sip of water in a week

Jono77 wrote: Aaaaah shit..you guys do know best so I'll listen ..my muscles feel and look fuller and that's pretty good.. does clomid cause an unquenchable thirst?
I've used clomid before and I don't know if I didn't notice it but with LP it feels like I haven't had a sip of water in a week

Happen to me as well bud be careful, the next thing that happened is extreme nausea while you doing sets and then kidney pains.

I hope you are luckier than me.

Really weird brother?.. so far I'm feeling great,I can't say anything bad except for the thirst..I have 3 days left including today, I was afraid I would get bad sides like a lot of you guys talk about but I'd rather do it for 7 days than 14.

Jono77 wrote: Aaaaah shit..you guys do know best so I'll listen ..my muscles feel and look fuller and that's pretty good.. does clomid cause an unquenchable thirst?
I've used clomid before and I don't know if I didn't notice it but with LP it feels like I haven't had a sip of water in a week

Not really. It might be because it's hotter than Margot Robbie in here.

fucken lol pyro

I'm starting nolvadex today,still going on with arimadex at 0.5mg eod..could I taper off the adex in my pct or wait till after?

Also,the other day I started thinking about which burns more calories,(this is just an example)

If I dumbell curl 10kg twice, or dumbell curl 20kg once?

Would I use more energy lifting the lighter weight twice or the heavier weight once?

If your cycle is over then your muscles need longer to recover so twice a week is to much. The Adex and Nolva somewhat cancel each other out and really shouldn't be combined during PCT.

Pump could you enlighten me a bit on the nolvadex and adex being used together.. I remember in my last pct cycle you suggested tapering off the adex,but this was after the pct?...will nolvadex be enough to keep gyno away?

You do need to tapper. You just in a bit of a predicament. The Adex can assist with recovery, so you could have continued with it for a bit longer until you are at the end of your tapper and then move to the Nolva. Or you can get yourself some aromasin and then you able 5o switch to that and the Nolva.

Yeah it's a bit of a pickle..if I can't get aromasin what do I do?

Drop the nolvadex and taper off adex or just start tapering off with the nolvadex

Hey guys,I have a quick question and I don't want to start a new thread.

My neighbours son was diagnosed with diabetes and he is currently in hospital being treated with insulin and what not.

They don't have a medical aid and don't really have the money to buy insulin from a dispencery every month. I was wondering if the insulin we can get can be used since it would be more cost effective?

Jono77 wrote: Hey guys,I have a quick question and I don't want to start a new thread.

My neighbours son was diagnosed with diabetes and he is currently in hospital being treated with insulin and what not.

They don't have a medical aid and don't really have the money to buy insulin from a dispencery every month. I was wondering if the insulin we can get can be used since it would be more cost effective?

Insulin is very cheap and no you can't use the same insulin as most of the times a long term will be used at night (bodybuilders don't use this) and a short acting during the day. Remember if you need 10iu and the stuff you get gives 12 you could land in a diabetic coma or worse die. If you want the 10 and it only gives you 8 then you going to battle all day with readings being up and down. This is not an illness you play with, or you have limbs cut off if you run high for to long over long periods of time.

Thanks pump,I guess they'll just have to do with what they're prescribed..I wish I could've helped tho,he is 10 and when they booked him in his blood sugar levels were 47,he was in a coma for a few days..his mother is also diabetic

Jono77 wrote: Thanks pump,I guess they'll just have to do with what they're prescribed..I wish I could've helped tho,he is 10 and when they booked him in his blood sugar levels were 47,he was in a coma for a few days..his mother is also diabetic

Ya 47 is extremely high, causes all kinds of problems running high, mainly the thickness of your blood. The blood test would have been able to determine the exact date he become type 1, any idea what that result was and how long he has been running high ? The poor guy must have felt like crap, sick, thin and more thirst than a rat who has taken rattex

Jono77 wrote: Hey guys,I have a quick question and I don't want to start a new thread.

My neighbours son was diagnosed with diabetes and he is currently in hospital being treated with insulin and what not.

They don't have a medical aid and don't really have the money to buy insulin from a dispencery every month. I was wondering if the insulin we can get can be used since it would be more cost effective?

what about a government hospital?
i know down in the cape these things are given to people for free at government hospitals.