Jono77 cutting cycle

People think because it says 'SUPER' its a magic drug. Will say it again its the worst useless oral out there imo for guys like me who don't really care about strength we want muscle!

Solid numbers Jono? Well done...

DruOmedra wrote: I don't feel anything from the Liquid Pharmaceuticals Sdrol either.

It's been long enough that I can safely say it's not affecting me at all in any noticeable way.

I've stopped taking it now for about 5 days. I've tried 10mg ED, I've tried 20mg as well. I tried it with milk thistle and essentiatle, then stopped both of those in case it was interfering or diluting it somehow. Still no difference. I didn't get any good or bad sides etc.

I don't know, I had a good experience with the LP Ostarine, so I'll chalk it up to 'these things happen', but I wouldn't use sdrol from LP again or recommend it to somebody.

But I'm not too phased, I could just be a poor responder.

Completely agree with you dru, at a stage I thought that maybe it was a bad batch but It could also be that It just doesn't work for me, either way not something I will do again.

4 weeks of LP sdrol and you felt nothing?

I'm on my last 4 days of sdrol at 20mg PD, I've tried what you suggested oupa to take 1 tab 30-60min before my workout and nothing different. Maybe the sdrol has made me more vascular but I haven't experienced much strength gain as expected..

Also haven't experienced any sides like hectic acne or gyno

Maybe your body is in a toxic state and not metabolising the drug correctly..

Could you enlighten me a bit pump?

Jono77 wrote: Could you enlighten me a bit pump?

Total thumb suck, is your body in a healthy state, you passing stools well? Is your liver not massively under strain, you getting allot of sleep, you eating well?

I think my body is in a healthy state.. bowel movements 2-3 times a day, minimum of 4 litres of water but mostly at 6 litres every day, taking essentials and milk thistle and multivitamins, get about 8-10 hours of sleep and my diet is only quality foods,no processed crap. I know LP is a great company and many of you guys swear by it, but the sdroll being a bad batch is the only explanation I can see.

What you have taken is a 'drug', it effects X people in a certain way and Y people in a different way. But truth be told, it isn't an axis, if you have ever looked carefully at double blind placebo controlled studies, you will see the effects different people get are incredible. The drug not working the way it does to ABC, does not mean it was a bad batch. I take blood pressure medication for example, there is countless medications out there, and what works for you might only work at 50% of the effect for me. Tt does not mean it never worked at all.. It could have helped you entering a catabolic state, it may have helped recovery, it doesn't mean you will get every single 'effect' / 'side effect' others have experienced. Have you used it in the past and experienced specific results and then used it this time and experienced something completely different?

Jono77 wrote: the sdroll being a bad batch is the only explanation I can see.

you can forget about that thought, no fucking way there is a bad batch with LP bro

Jono77 wrote: ...but the sdroll being a bad batch is the only explanation I can see.

Bad batch, no! They don't just push out a batch and hope for the best, there are procedures being followed to make sure the product is good. In the rare event that something does go wrong and it wasn't discovered before going on sale it will be recalled.

You base your entire opinion on one bottle of Superdrol, but we have people here that use Superdrol cycle after cycle and they are the ones recommending the product, so you are obviously looking for the problem at the wrong place.

Jono IIRC this is your 4th cycle right?

What does it usually feel like when an oral kicks in?

00pump wrote: What you have taken is a 'drug', it effects X people in a certain way and Y people in a different way. But truth be told, it isn't an axis, if you have ever looked carefully at double blind placebo controlled studies, you will see the effects different people get are incredible. The drug not working the way it does to ABC, does not mean it was a bad batch. I take blood pressure medication for example, there is countless medications out there, and what works for you might only work at 50% of the effect for me. Tt does not mean it never worked at all.. It could have helped you entering a catabolic state, it may have helped recovery, it doesn't mean you will get every single 'effect' / 'side effect' others have experienced. Have you used it in the past and experienced specific results and then used it this time and experienced something completely different?

Fair enough, in my experience I guess I just got too amped up by the reviews I read by others posted on Sdrol as to how powerful it is whether bulking/cutting.

00pump wrote: What you have taken is a 'drug', it effects X people in a certain way and Y people in a different way. But truth be told, it isn't an axis, if you have ever looked carefully at double blind placebo controlled studies, you will see the effects different people get are incredible. The drug not working the way it does to ABC, does not mean it was a bad batch. I take blood pressure medication for example, there is countless medications out there, and what works for you might only work at 50% of the effect for me. Tt does not mean it never worked at all.. It could have helped you entering a catabolic state, it may have helped recovery, it doesn't mean you will get every single 'effect' / 'side effect' others have experienced. Have you used it in the past and experienced specific results and then used it this time and experienced something completely different?

Completely understand what you're saying pump, I guess sdrol just isn't for me

DruOmedra wrote: Jono IIRC this is your 4th cycle right?

What does it usually feel like when an oral kicks in?

This is my 4th cycle but 3rd properly planed cycle.

Well personally my favourite oral is tbol, I can feel increase in strength and experience huge pumps within the first week.. the same can be said for winstrol,dbol and anavar, these are the only other orals I have used..I always look closely for side effects associated with a particular oral steroid to reassure myself that it is working. But yeah to directly answer your question,you want to feel increase in strength, pumps and maybe water retention depending on the oral within the first 10 days about.

Jono77 wrote:

DruOmedra wrote: Jono IIRC this is your 4th cycle right?

What does it usually feel like when an oral kicks in?

This is my 4th cycle but 3rd properly planed cycle.

Well personally my favourite oral is tbol, I can feel increase in strength and experience huge pumps within the first week.. the same can be said for winstrol,dbol and anavar, these are the only other orals I have used..I always look closely for side effects associated with a particular oral steroid to reassure myself that it is working. But yeah to directly answer your question,you want to feel increase in strength, pumps and maybe water retention depending on the oral within the first 10 days about.

I know for certain it isn't for me, the only thing it did for me was hurt my kidneys, nothing else.

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Jono77 wrote:

DruOmedra wrote: Jono IIRC this is your 4th cycle right?

What does it usually feel like when an oral kicks in?

This is my 4th cycle but 3rd properly planed cycle.

Well personally my favourite oral is tbol, I can feel increase in strength and experience huge pumps within the first week.. the same can be said for winstrol,dbol and anavar, these are the only other orals I have used..I always look closely for side effects associated with a particular oral steroid to reassure myself that it is working. But yeah to directly answer your question,you want to feel increase in strength, pumps and maybe water retention depending on the oral within the first 10 days about.

Sounds awesome, I think I'll try Dbol next time around

Dbol is great when it comes to strength,but I get the same increase in strength with tbol and without the water retention. But hey give it a try and see for yourself what works best for you and the type of results that you are going for.

Jono took some pics of the hand grip machine at that new small powerlifting gym I started training at will post up

Sorry, but for some reason, the site did not allow me to post more than 2 pics in one post. Think it is my phone bombing out.

Shit thanks bul!! I really appreciate it!

I can make one of those in a few hours

Since I've started doing farmer walks my forearm strength and size haso increased quite a bit, thanks for the help brother

I've been a bit scarce recentl, my weight is at 110 from 106, honestly noticed some lean muscle and good strength, it's not as drastic as my previous cycles where there were huge changes but I'm happy with the quality muscle. My bf is hovering at 15-16%. My sdrol is finished and in my last 2 weeks of tren at 300mg pw followed by another 2 weeks of test prop then 2 week winny proviron bridge. Going to keep cyt3 at 1 tab per day and work up clen to 120mcg PD until my pct starts