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Lee2011 wrote: I understand that 250 is a little this is my first time pining so I would like to see what the test do for me everybody not the same if all goes weel on my first cycle.Then my second cycle will be 500mcg test cyp,60 mg dbol+proviron@40mg-ED with anv/winny@40mg-ED bridge with proper pct{clomid/nova/hcg}.And mike 123 I have gained 2kgs in two weeks still a long way to go but guess that is just the water weight from the dbol test still need to kick in so excited trying to keep my diet clean still need to revise that with dj.Everything so far so good.
All due respect to the old guy, but 250mg is not an anabolic dose it's a dose where you are just trying trying to keep your test levels up. I.m.o you are pissing away your golden cycle! 250mg Test on its own ain't gonna do jack shit!!
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Pyroclasm wrote:
All due respect to the old guy, but 250mg is not an anabolic dose it's a dose where you are just trying trying to keep your test levels up. I.m.o you are pissing away your golden cycle! 250mg Test on its own ain't gonna do jack shit!!
Thx for the acknowledgement and touche with regards to respect...
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How did you get to that statement of - 250mg is not an anabolic dose... ? and that 250mg only keeps test levels up ?
...he has 18% body fat....... he will eventually just become a fatter version of himself on a relatively high first cycle dose of test. He is only 26, plenty time left to MOER it !
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pick up a kg a week till week 7 and then stay around there till week 10 but then I dont up calories too much because I pick up fat/water too easly...
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He is using the guideline provided for download on this very website, the Beginners Bulk. He is trying to do it by the book, (GIVE THIS DUDE A BELL's for not fcking up on buddy bullshit cycles)
Reference in (William Llewellyn's Anabolics 10th pg 212-216) he is doing perfect with the dose of test.....
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I Don't want to bust your bubble, but you will have that look only after a few cycles. Yes your current cycle will give you impressive results if your diet is on track, but dont expect to look like a super hero after cycle 1.
Take your time, do it properly and be your own Michelangelo
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Oupa wrote:
Pyroclasm wrote:
All due respect to the old guy, but 250mg is not an anabolic dose it's a dose where you are just trying trying to keep your test levels up. I.m.o you are pissing away your golden cycle! 250mg Test on its own ain't gonna do jack shit!!
Thx for the acknowledgement and touche with regards to respect...
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How did you get to that statement of - 250mg is not an anabolic dose... ? and that 250mg only keeps test levels up ?
...he has 18% body fat....... he will eventually just become a fatter version of himself on a relatively high first cycle dose of test. He is only 26, plenty time left to MOER it !
We have had a similar thread a couple of times now and the mods commented that it's a waste and that makes sense to me.
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We have had a similar thread a couple of times now and the mods commented that it's a waste and that makes sense to me.
Difference of opinions, i have the utmost respect for the mods and you included, but i stand by opp, that's why we are all unique individuals
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" Proviron is definitely a drug that can be used in any stack and even beginners can add it to their cycles to aid results without increasing the dosage of other steroids."
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I copy/paste the last few lines from the drug profile on this forum just need some input.
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Lee2011 wrote: I got 50 caps was thinking about doing atleast 20mg ED while on my cycle.When I get good results from it then I would get more and continue my dose up until my last pin. Then up my dose to 40-50mg on my bridge before pct.
Sounds good, If you've got the cash you can run it at 50-100mg ED on cycle all the way through your bridge, its a very mild drug so higher doses are still easily tolerable but it can get expensive..
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There have been quite a few studies done on the pharmacodynamics of various doses of testosterone and the results clearly show that even when doing a low dose you should split your shots into twice weekly injections. This will reduce your chances of getting acne by MORE than half than when doing once a week shots.
You're set on 250mg but like everyone is saying, it is really unnecessarily low. 500mg for around 10 weeks does not put any significant strain on your liver, prostrate or lipids as studies have shown. For my first cycle I used 400mg/week of pharma grade test cyp and I wish I had used more.
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500 = awesome gains
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kkx250 wrote: 250 = reasonable gains
500 = awesome gains
have any of you looked at what dorian yates said when he told media he was on steroids. he said when he starded takins gear he used as little as possible. he states that when he was on his peak he was only taking 1000mg test and 500mg deca per week. this was when he won olympia. so maybe we are just overdoing it a bit.
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