SARMS (SELECTIVE ANDROGEN RECEPTOR MODULATORS)

It'll be interesting to hear how the SARMs are working for you...

Muscle gains? Side effects? Strength gains? A lot of the studies I read were done in rats - drugs don't always work exactly the same in humans as in rats so I'd love to hear your experiences.

Hi guys, sorry for the late update.

I can confirm that the S-4 I got from MGE is real and working as expected. I've only used it for a couple of days to get a feel for it and to see what side-effects I get. I did get the yellow vision and it is not so bad to live with as I imagined. When you are in a dark room and you turn on the light everything appears to have a yellow glow and I also noticed that it does make you night blind.

We all wondered if it will reverse after use and I was also worried about that, so I discontinued usage and I'm glad to confirm that after 3 days without SARMs my vision is about 95% back to normal. Once it is 100% back I'll give the S-4 another run to see the effects on muscle growth and strength.

I didn't use it long enough to comment on the muscle building or the strength aspect, but can confirm that muscle harness did increase.

Good stuff thanks Admin.

When you say night blind, how bad are we talking here?

NO ways am I messing with my sight. Night blind = cant drive

Same here, this is very worrying! No thanks...

The night blindness is not that bad actually... I'm driving allot at night and drove 115Km home this morning with no issues.

Doctari also bought some medical studies and is working on a proper article based on research done. There are only 2 studies done and they will get released later in december, however Doc was kind enough to buy them for us... The North West University at Potch is also looking for studies done at other institutes.

Also a bit worried about the sight thing.

But great info-thanks admin-and looking forward to reading the studies and the outcome of your trial

Hey people, before we get too carried away with the vision sides...
On a forum I read that the user used lutein and billberry to help counteract the sides. I know that we should take his info with a pinch of salt.
But, eye supps may be worth looking into, for users of SARMS...

I've used S-4 at the higher dosage range and I have to say that I'm not worried about the vision issues at all as I'm seeing the yellow vision going away day by day. The S-4 molecule is yellow in color, so the yellow vision must have something to do with it's effects on the androgen receptors in the eye somewhere... Maybe I'll do some research regarding the vision issues SERMs and SARMs cause. BTW: Viagra cause blue vision and Ciallis blurred vision and I don't see horny men complaining.

i never got "blue" vision from viagra or blurry vision from cialis

Lesa wrote:

i never got "blue" vision from viagra or blurry vision from cialis

Yes, not everyone get it, but some do and there is some ongoing concerns about it...

Oh, my vision is 100% back to normal today and there is no yellow glow at all anymore, so I guess all the guys worried about permanent issues can relax now.

Awesome! Thanks for the updates admin. Good to know that the sides are reversable and temporary. Now to see what type of strength and muscle gains it can give...

To be honest, I don't expect allot of muscle gain, but think that strength will be more apparent. Doctari is doing allot of research at the moment and he believes that the main use for SARMs will be to bridge cycles as there is NO approved medical evidence that it affects the HPTA in anyway.

What worries me Admin is the sight issue resulting into permanent damage of your sight .

Without sight , you like will take a drastic turn .

Long term test need to be done ..

acidkidsa wrote:

What worries me Admin is the sight issue resulting into permanent damage of your sight .

Without sight , you like will take a drastic turn .

Long term test need to be done ..

Thats exactly it you used it for only a short time admin but we dont know if these sides will reverse after long term usage

Thanks for the updates Admin.

Will have to do some research into the sight thing.

Hi guys,

Can you use SARMS during an off cycle....
During recovery or PCT?

Timothy wrote:

Hi guys,

Can you use SARMS during an off cycle....
During recovery or PCT?

Yes, the research doctari have suggests you can do that.

Hi all, hope everyone is well..

Admin, anu update on your SARMS cycle? Vision, results etc...

What dosing did you make use of admin? Did it take long for the sides to manifest themselves?

I'm not using SARMs anymore, I just tested it and wanted to be the first one to use it in SA.

I used 150mg and the side-effects started after a week I think...

thats quite a dose...lol - thx

One other thing.

I am currently on Kessar as part of PCT which also does cause vision issues sometimes.

It might be more severe in my instance as i am using both.

Hi guys

So i started a cycle of this stuff about 2 weeks ago. I was cautious at first and did 50mg i then bumped it up to 100mg per day.

I can definitely say that you shouldn't expect anything like you would when using test, tren or anything like that.

I can definitely agree with the guy who posted earlier and said its something like anavar etc.

The vision issues are definitely there - the yellow tinting is hard to really measure but there is an element of it. Changes between light and darkness take a long time to adjust to and even so in the dark you can see very little - i couldnt see my girlfriends face in bed next to me no matter how long i waited for it to adjust when normally its easy.

When the dose decreases the vision issues do subside - i havent been completely off it so i cant say if they subside 100%.

Its definitely not test and if you expect it to be your going to be sourly disappointed.

I'll let you know in a few weeks time.