SARMS (SELECTIVE ANDROGEN RECEPTOR MODULATORS)

but also for people who are prone to estrogen and dht side effects admin. There is a lot of guy out there dreading to use test cause of many sides that follow with it. so hey even if its 70 % as good in gains as dbol as its still a product i would buy straight away

If anyone needs a SARM tester, count me in! lol:)

ME2 lol

Admin...
Any news on this?

Thought I would resurrect this... keen for an update.

DesR wrote:

Thought I would resurrect this... keen for an update.

Liquid-Pharma and PGW will launch a SARM S-4 product very soon. ETA is about 2 weeks from now.

Has anyone got some in the trenches reviews on this? Has it lived up to the hype?

admin wrote:

DesR wrote:

Thought I would resurrect this... keen for an update.

Liquid-Pharma and PGW will launch a SARM S-4 product very soon. ETA is about 2 weeks from now.

Sweet, admin please post on the forum as soon as LP or PGW stocks this.
:woohoo:

admin wrote:

Liquid-Pharma and PGW will launch a SARM S-4 product very soon. ETA is about 2 weeks from now.

Excellent! I want to use this as part of PCT. Has the pricing been updated? Also, do you know what the dosage will be per tablet?

DesR wrote:

Excellent! I want to use this as part of PCT. Has the pricing been updated? Also, do you know what the dosage will be per tablet?

No update on pricing.
Thats why I asked admin to post as soon as its released.

I would also like to know the dosing, as well as the exact ingredient(s).
And what supps to take for the "yellow vision"...

Price still needs to be discussed between PGW and LP. Dosage will likely be 50mg per tab/cap. And you will take between 100 and 200mg per day.

I will wait for everyone to test it on my behalf first.

If you start turning into X-men I am in ...

admin wrote:

Price still needs to be discussed between PGW and LP. Dosage will likely be 50mg per tab/cap. And you will take between 100 and 200mg per day.

Great, thanks. Looking forward to being a customer...

acidkidsa wrote:

I will wait for everyone to test it on my behalf first.

If you start turning into X-men I am in ...

Im planning to use it post cycle to keep gains. Now to try and plan a proper PCT.

I really wanted to use this but I already have bad night vision, :blink:
Will let you guys test it out first.:laugh:

DesR bro (and everyone else), I wouldn't plan to use it in PCT just yet.
SARM S-4 does negatively influence the HPTA in a dose dependent fashion. Not sure how much this effect is in humans because I haven't seen many blood work results yet, but its definately there. Probably akin to taking a low dose steroid in PCT which we know I don't advise (I'm speculating here).

If somebody a couple of months out of there last cycle with recent blood work showing normal hormone levels would be willing to run the compound for 6-8 weeks at 50mg-100mg and then get bloodwork after this would help greatly. I'd offer but I probably wont be able to afford this since I'm saving for a big bulk cycle to start around Jan...

I'll be off in Dec so maybe i'l bridge with it come Jan.

Inja wrote:

DesR bro (and everyone else), I wouldn't plan to use it in PCT just yet.
SARM S-4 does negatively influence the HPTA in a dose dependent fashion. Not sure how much this effect is in humans because I haven't seen many blood work results yet, but its definately there. Probably akin to taking a low dose steroid in PCT which we know I don't advise (I'm speculating here).

If somebody a couple of months out of there last cycle with recent blood work showing normal hormone levels would be willing to run the compound for 6-8 weeks at 50mg-100mg and then get bloodwork after this would help greatly. I'd offer but I probably wont be able to afford this since I'm saving for a big bulk cycle to start around Jan...

Hi Inja.

Thats interesting... All my reading thus far has indicated no impact on the HPTA. It's supposed to be one of the big selling points of SARM's.

Do you have any links?

Thanks.

I really should stop skimming other posts.

Dose dependant suppression. I'm not planning to use large doses (you probably guessed that) and will merely be looking to try maintain any gains. Certainly the reading I've done suggests that this can be done without affecting LH/FSH.

Hmmm...

Already got stuff for Feb2010 bulk cycle (cutting frantically at the moment to get below 10% BF before then). Plan is:

750mg Test Cyp (p/w) - run for 12 weeks
75mg Tren Ace (ed) - run for 10 weeks
700mg Bold (p/w) - run for 12 weeks

Kick off the first three weeks with D-bol. Front loading with everything else.

Usual ancilliaries in place to deal with any gyno etc. and of course PCT.

May be the last time I use Tren... thought it was a brilliant product when I used it but it severely nailed my hormones last time round. Took ages to get back to normal - if it happens that way again, its definitely off the list.

Obviously wanting to top it all off with the S-4 to retain gains.

Tren is no joke, shuts you done good and proper... had to extend HCG for 3 weeks... everytime I thought I was coming right (bam -shruken up again)

00pump wrote:

Tren is no joke, shuts you done good and proper... had to extend HCG for 3 weeks... everytime I thought I was coming right (bam -shruken up again)

Balls seemed ok but the hormone levels just didnt want to get up. I also had a very bad cholesterol profile (HDL at 0.1). Will be using HCG from around week 4/5 to help.

jackrabbit1 wrote:

I'll be off in Dec so maybe i'l bridge with it come Jan.

Are you doing bloodwork?

DesR wrote:

I really should stop skimming other posts.

Dose dependant suppression. I'm not planning to use large doses (you probably guessed that) and will merely be looking to try maintain any gains. Certainly the reading I've done suggests that this can be done without affecting LH/FSH.

I may be wrong, but another reason for you not to take SARM's during your PCT is:
Part of the reason that you're going off roids after a cycle is to give your Receptors time to sensitize themselves again.
If your Androgen receptors are desensitized, won't the SARM just pass through your body and into the toilet?
Anyones thoughts? :dry:

N3rd wrote:

DesR wrote:

I really should stop skimming other posts.

Dose dependant suppression. I'm not planning to use large doses (you probably guessed that) and will merely be looking to try maintain any gains. Certainly the reading I've done suggests that this can be done without affecting LH/FSH.

I may be wrong, but another reason for you not to take SARM's during your PCT is:
Part of the reason that you're going off roids after a cycle is to give your Receptors time to sensitize themselves again.
If your Androgen receptors are desensitized, won't the SARM just pass through your body and into the toilet?
Anyones thoughts? :dry:

As far as I know, Androgen Receptors do not down-regulate like adrenergic receptors.