Which brand makes the best whey protein.

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18 Jul 2011 11:44 #70902 by CHAPEL
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He isn't trying to sell it in the "Selling" sense... he is just organizing something for a few mates he met online, no harm :P count me in for a few kg's if it kicks off..

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18 Jul 2011 13:09 - 18 Jul 2011 13:25 #70910 by Ondier
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Agreed Chapel

Anyway- I am paying R144 per kg, bag it and label it and sell it for R150- that is pretty stupid in my opinion for someone that is trying to make a quick buck :-)

Madley wrote: Ondier the moment you open the bag, flavour and repack it, it's a new nutritional product according to law and requires clearance and certification. Mixing companies are never responsible, they are too well protected so you carry liability and responsibility. Just some food for thought


Madley I'm gonna take my chances but thanks for the warning. EDIT: And I am not going to flavour it. It is going to be flavoured when I receive it- so just repacking. Seems like when we say it is a supplement and not a medicine, and adding the phrase: This statement has not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. , you are pretty safe.

This is from Boksmart, a guide for Springboks on supplement use:

In 1994, the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act (DSHEA) essentially gave “free licence” to
anyone to market and sell a variety of products as supplements. As a result there has been an exponential
growth in the local dietary supplement industry, which contributes to sales estimated to be in excess
of $270 billion worldwide to the global economy (56). In 2007, an average total sales of R78.5 million was
reported in South Africa (24). Simultaneously there has also been a global increase in the contamination
of dietary supplements with “banned substances” such as testosterone, benzodiazepines, powerful
diuretics and potent stimulants (1, 31, 36).
Unlike drugs, supplements are not required to prove their efficacy before being marketed or sold and
the industry, both internationally and locally, is poorly regulated. The intention of Good Manufacturing
Practice (GMP) regulations which supplement companies may claim to adhere to, are in fact very general
and open-ended and allow each manufacturer the flexibility to decide on how to implement controls.
Although GMP standards may provide some assurance with regard to documentation of manufacturing
processes, they do not guarantee that the product has been tested for banned substances.
In practice, this means there is only limited control on the production, labelling, importation,
distribution, and marketing of supplements and there is also no system to ensure products are safe and
effective before they are sold. There have been numerous cases of supplements either being incorrectly
labelled, or containing negligible amounts of declared ingredients and may even contain undeclared
ingredients with potential harmful side-effects. There have also been several cases of athletes testing
positive by virtue of having taken supplements and, unfortunately, this has undermined the image of
the whole industry (12, 15, 16, 32).
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WHAT IS A SUPPLEMENT ?
The DSHEA defines a dietary supplement as “a product, other than tobacco, which is used in conjunction
with a healthy diet and contains one or more of the following dietary ingredients: a vitamin, mineral,
herb or other botanical, an amino acid, a dietary substance for use by man to supplement the diet by
increasing the total daily intake, or a concentrate, metabolite, constituent, extract, or combinations of
these ingredients and dietary supplements are products that are labelled as a dietary supplement and is
not represented for use as a conventional food or as a sole item of a meal or the diet” (10).
Typically, dietary supplements are available in the form of tablets, capsules, soft gels, liquids, powders
and bars and may include vitamins, minerals, herbals, protein and carbohydrate powders, fat-cutting
remedies, sports bars and drinks or powders, to more specialised products such as amino acids, creatine,
HMB (beta-hydroxy-beta-methylbutyrate) and glutamine, either on their own or in combination with
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18 Jul 2011 13:14 #70911 by Ondier
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So lets get back to the topic- are we going for the Concentrate and Isolate blend or just the Isolate? Concentrate on its own is fairly cheap available and LSJ is doing a good job there, so lets not go that route.

It seems like chocolate is the favourite at this stage

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18 Jul 2011 13:32 #70916 by Eidolon
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As mentioned previously, I'm cool with the isolate only. And I'm sure you can sell the whey as a baking aid rather than a health supp :D
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18 Jul 2011 15:00 #70933 by Ondier
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Ok lets keep it Porche then and go for Isolate only? Let us wait until Friday and I'll post a summary of the votes.

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18 Jul 2011 20:24 #70954 by Marshy
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Ondier, I'm dead keen on making an order too.
I'm cool with the WP Blend in choc, and looking to take 10kgs if it's cool? :)
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19 Jul 2011 08:57 #70974 by Ondier
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Ok got it Marshy

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19 Jul 2011 09:52 #70980 by DC EVO
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What someone needs to get to the point in doing is something like this :

www.trueprotein.com
www.proteinfactory.com

If someone in SA could get this going I reckon it would do great!


Food for thought guys!!!

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19 Jul 2011 11:27 #70987 by MMartial
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Well they sort of got something like that. Pro 10 at Dischem pharmacies. And then you buy the flavourant and whatever else you would like to add to the mix.
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19 Jul 2011 13:52 #71003 by DC EVO
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MMartial wrote: Well they sort of got something like that. Pro 10 at Dischem pharmacies. And then you buy the flavourant and whatever else you would like to add to the mix.


I use Pro10 Malto but I don't think Pro10 and the websites mentioned can even be compared.

We need someone like BasicSupps to up their game even more and offer that kind of service and options. Will go a long way to help bring down supplements prices across the board.

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19 Jul 2011 15:10 #71005 by salamander
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Hi just paid R-720 for 4 kg SSN Whey protien at OK. Will you sell it for R-150/ 2kg will be interist thnx

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20 Jul 2011 08:39 #71052 by Ondier
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salamander wrote: Hi just paid R-720 for 4 kg SSN Whey protien at OK. Will you sell it for R-150/ 2kg will be interist thnx


It will be R150 per kg if we do the blend, or R170 if we do Isolate. I think at this stage for the R20 difference it is definitely worth going for Isolate only.

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20 Jul 2011 10:56 #71056 by Yazo
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my vote is for canidate # 2 whey isolate ( Chocolate )
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20 Jul 2011 11:48 #71059 by Ondier
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I'm going hunting tomorrow- will check final votes on Sunday and we can take things from there. So at this stage it is Isolate Chocolate.

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20 Jul 2011 12:49 #71060 by Koe007
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Definitely Isolate choc 10kg for me

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21 Jul 2011 14:21 #71152 by bones
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3 kilos for me
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21 Jul 2011 14:34 #71155 by Tremere
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2kg please...isolate...choc...ASAP...thank you come again :silly:

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21 Jul 2011 21:42 #71211 by m0lt3n
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on board for 2kg...

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22 Jul 2011 21:52 #71281 by MMartial
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Ondier do you by any chance sell maltodextrin and dextrose as well?
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24 Jul 2011 18:53 #71343 by Marshy
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Ondier, any way that we can get hold of you? can we ask the mods for your details? :)

oh! and hope you had a good weekend in the bush! :)
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25 Jul 2011 09:36 #71366 by Ondier
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Morning brothers

Yes I'm back and had a very good bush weekend thanks :-) Back to the roots.

Will calculate and post all orders today- please check them and confirm they are correct.

Yes MArshy Admin will give you my details.

Martial I have dextrose yes- R25 per kilo.

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25 Jul 2011 11:42 #71391 by Pumped
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What did you shoot ?

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25 Jul 2011 11:48 #71393 by Ondier
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A couple of Warthogs and Impala- was looking for a Kudu and Blue Wildebeest but as luck wants it only the guys that didn't want them walked in to them

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25 Jul 2011 11:52 #71395 by Pumped
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What caliber rifle were you using and in what grain ammo?

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25 Jul 2011 12:15 #71403 by Ondier
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The guys that was with me- most of them have not hunted before- so I took my American made 303 Lee Enfield for them. With 180 grain Winchester - I used a 270 (not sure about the grain), and I also had a couple of shots with my cousin's 458- that was around 520 grain if I remember correctly - Kanon- hy skiet die plaak van jou tanne af :-)

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