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20 Dec 2012 08:54 #130267 by V1rus
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pr0gr3s1v3 wrote:

V1rus wrote: I mean I misheard the exact figures of my blood results (the test and estrogen).


So he did indeed tell you to drop the protein shakes due to them having an effect on your hormonal levels?


Yes he did.

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20 Dec 2012 09:20 #130269 by Muscleaddict
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V1rus wrote:

pr0gr3s1v3 wrote: So he did indeed tell you to drop the protein shakes due to them having an effect on your hormonal levels?


Yes he did.


So please don't mind us if we have a good laugh at that. :lol: No offence intended but If I didn't comment on that I would be doing a disservice to other forum members who might start worrying that their protein shakes contain testosterone.
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20 Dec 2012 09:24 #130270 by V1rus
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I know okay, it sounds very strange.

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20 Dec 2012 10:35 #130273 by Pyroclasm
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mike123 wrote: There seems to be a def miscaminication between Doc and Patient...as I suggested previously ask the doc / receptionist for a copy of the results..U have a right to this.
Would be interesting to get to the bottom of this ...I still dont think u have the normal Gyno issue that is normally discussed on this sight... by the way test is between 9 and 27 the younger the higher u should be ..so u are average for your age and could even increase :)
Too much bru. B)


Agree I do it all the time you can ask the receptionist to email the results to you then you don't even have to go to his office. Ask him if he can give you a reference to the medical study regarding the shakes?

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20 Dec 2012 11:38 - 20 Dec 2012 13:25 #130278 by mike123
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I would bet the whey thing was misunderstood as well ??? by the patient ?

Give the Doc a call Pyro ? :)
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22 Dec 2012 07:29 #130334 by Pyroclasm
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The doc won't be able to give me Virus's test results so I think Virus must rather give the good doc a shout then he can get his test results as well as the study. Kill two stones with one bird kinda thing. ;)

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22 Dec 2012 14:12 #130354 by Muscleaddict
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There is no such study. Protein shakes containing testosterone do not exist on the market.

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22 Dec 2012 15:52 #130360 by Oupa
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:lol:

Assumtions are the mother of all ********** ;)

Double check what he said and ment next time. Make sure you understand exactly !
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22 Dec 2012 19:07 #130364 by mike123
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Was refering to the whey story Pyro ...I am sure he misunderstood the doc

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22 Dec 2012 22:18 #130372 by Oupa
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Mike, Dankie vir jou geen hulp op my post ! Eke dog ons ou manne staan saam .. ;-)

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26 Dec 2012 22:53 #130487 by V1rus
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26 Dec 2012 22:55 #130488 by V1rus
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This is my current pic.

The prev one is one page 2. I think it look a lot better?.

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26 Dec 2012 23:03 #130490 by V1rus
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Still struggleing with my damn arms!!

I'm not flexing or anything so that might be the explanation for the flabby belly. Trying hard to lower bf%.

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05 Jan 2013 13:15 #130633 by machine
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does anybody know or had any experience as to who the best dr is for gynocemastia surgery ? and what it would cost ?

namely 00pump

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05 Jan 2013 16:19 #130638 by 00pump
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Ja. You can mail admin and ill provide him a number for you. Can be quite expensive 20-30k

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05 Jan 2013 16:38 #130639 by Empire
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depending on how long the op is. just to put u in perspective, 3 hours of surgery is about 9000 just for the anethatist. and then a hospital fees and theatre costs look at at least 15-25k depending on length of op. and then surgeon costs. for chicks to have breast implants these days is 28-35k depending on size of implant and the experience of surgeon.

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05 Jan 2013 16:42 #130640 by Empire
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fakey_ak just had his done. without surgeon cost it was 18k I think he said. so dont bank on less than 30

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05 Jan 2013 16:46 #130641 by 00pump
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Gyno surgery you can do under local if you brave enough. Theatre charges are insane

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05 Jan 2013 17:53 #130642 by Empire
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I will rate the idea of having gyno cut out under local On a scale of 1 - no fucking way,I would give it a hell fucking no.just my opinion...

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05 Jan 2013 18:32 #130643 by 00pump
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DJ wrote: I will rate the idea of having gyno cut out under local On a scale of 1 - no fucking way,I would give it a hell fucking no.just my opinion...


Haha, hence the reason i do it under.

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05 Jan 2013 22:15 - 05 Jan 2013 22:17 #130649 by INB4
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Just by any chance is your whey protein USN Hardcore with Tribulus in it?
It might be causing it.
And yes before there is a shitstorm there has been a study on this.
Source=====> www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15454201
and some more =====> www.livestrong.com/article/526154-does-t...-cause-gynecomastia/

But looking at the pictures looks like what we used to call Stoneys
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05 Jan 2013 22:24 #130650 by p1et
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Dude did you actually read those articels you posted? Even in the study they admit that tribulus has little to no effect on test levels in men, only in rats. I think most of us here can agree tribulus does jack shit for your hormones. What a load of shit.
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05 Jan 2013 23:04 #130652 by Cyclo
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Just to throw a spanner in the works,

I think there was some miscommunication and misunderstanding from the doc. V1rus obviously stressed and as he isn't a medical professional himself, alot of info can quickly lead to confusion.

However, the crux is that apparently the Test and Oestrogen levels are too high. THis may be due to some endocrinological pathology or somebody has been spiking you with some meds unknown to you.

If you're getting Oestrogen in the form of a Premarin or more likely, OCP, your test will increase to a point to try and and counter as you are male. But the Oest levels will skyrocket. THe fact that you are home and symptoms have subsided could mean something.

I don't want to go all conspiracy theory, and only you really know if you haven't dabbled in Vit S, but the simplest explanation is often the right one.

Did you piss anyone off? Ex-Girlfriend? Try a move on another guy's girl?

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Experience comes from bad judgement.

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05 Jan 2013 23:38 - 05 Jan 2013 23:47 #130653 by Muscleaddict
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If you are getting in estrogen from premarin or any source for that matter your body will not counteract by producing more testosterone. Estrogen is very suppressive and will reduce testosterone production no matter what kind of estrogen or how it gets in your system.
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06 Jan 2013 15:39 #130673 by Pyroclasm
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INB4 wrote: Just by any chance is your whey protein USN Hardcore with Tribulus in it?
It might be causing it.
And yes before there is a shitstorm there has been a study on this.
Source=====> www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15454201
and some more =====> www.livestrong.com/article/526154-does-t...-cause-gynecomastia/

But looking at the pictures looks like what we used to call Stoneys


Thanx for the effort bro don't mind progressive. To quote from that article:
"TRIBULUS AND GYNECOMASTIA

In a 2004 study published in the health journal "Breast," researchers found a positive correlation between the
use of tribulus terrestris and the onset of gynecomastia in men. According to "Natural Medications for
Psychiatric Disorders," tribulus terrestris supplementation can increase dehydroepiandrosterone levels. High
amounts of DHEA in your bloodstream can cause several side effects, including gynecomastia in men."

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