Nipples

But my nipples are really huuge.

V1rus wrote: Yup I know dieting is hard when in varsity. We have to eat what the food halls serve... still gyno or not?.

I'm in a koshuis too, you can still make it work though.

Not talking about strict dieting, but at least upping the calories (in a decent manner, mind you. Proper protein, carbs and fats) along with a good training regimen.

What are your stats?

And yeah, rather big nipples, doesn't seem like gyno though

I'm about 186-187 and 84kg. 20 years old.

Went up from 78kg at the beginning of the year which isn't that bad I guess. I can only eat 3 times a day so I make it count and eat a lot. I fill the other meals with protein shakes.

This December when I am at home I'm really going to work on my diet etc. Do you think I should see a GP anyways?.

Regarding gyno, I am not a specialist in that area, so don't ask me. I'm more replying on your question of how to get your arms to seem bigger, and again, my answer is: your entire physique still has some way it can go.

Why do you say you can only eat three times a day? Surely that's not entirely true?

Ahh.

I can eat breakfast in the morning and then we get 2 other meals in the day. I try to eat some peanut butter before bed etc.

Luckily this December at home I can eat more and healthier.

What I'm trying to say is, you can make and/or buy your own meals apart from those, can't you?

Well I try but have a tight budget. Most of my budget goes into the food at the halls.. We do not have the best facilities in the koshuis.

V1rus wrote: Then I am out of options.

so what did you do bro ?

my nipples are the same and have also read that letro can even reverse the effect and still i have found no evidence of this , you just become depressed and there was something else as well that made me say i would not use letro again and rather use adex , just i can not recall , i will remember soon and update

anyway my adex ran out on this cycle because i had to take it up from 1mg EOD to ED. and i had a 1/4 bottle of lp letro left and guess what i am using it now again @ 10 drops ED

where can you go and get your nipples done ? and for how much ?

V1rus wrote: Well I try but have a tight budget. Most of my budget goes into the food at the halls.. We do not have the best facilities in the koshuis.

Your going to have to come to your senses if you really want to start improving your body. Dieting is 80% of your gains, make it happen.

no dieting is 50%, training 30% and gear the other 20%, what to run the letro at ? what the norm ?

Yup at home I eat right and stuff don't worry. Gained like 3 kg in a week at home just by eating like a monster.

V1rus wrote: Yup at home I eat right and stuff don't worry. Gained like 3 kg in a week at home just by eating like a monster.

What did you do about the nipples ?

machine wrote: no dieting is 50%, training 30% and gear the other 20%, what to run the letro at ? what the norm ?

Completely disagree with you. Your are clearly miss informed.

add: he dosent even you use steriods.

Yup I'm not on Vitamin S and have done nothing about the nipples.

ok

Hi guys

Okay so after going to Pyroclasm's doctor , a very nice guy will be going there from now on, I have gained some answers.

After a blood test it is clear that my test is at 22 where it should be 15 and my estrogen is at 349 where it should be 50. He tested for cancer but could not find anything. It is believed that there is some test in protein shakes and he has taken me off all shakes for 6 weeks to see if this is the cause.

If the results are the same after 6 weeks I will be taken for further tests and get a prescription for something to stop the estrogen.

Thanks for all the help guys , especially Pyroclasm.

V1rus wrote: Hi guys

Okay so after going to Pyroclasm's doctor , a very nice guy will be going there from now on, I have gained some answers.

After a blood test it is clear that my test is at 22 where it should be 15 and my estrogen is at 349 where it should be 50. He tested for cancer but could not find anything. It is believed that there is some test in protein shakes and he has taken me off all shakes for 6 weeks to see if this is the cause.

If the results are the same after 6 weeks I will be taken for further tests and get a prescription for something to stop the estrogen.

Thanks for all the help guys , especially Pyroclasm.

What the fudge??? The doctor thinks that your protein shakes have been dosed with testosterone?? :lol: :lol: :lol:

There is probably 0.1% chance of that happening and that is being generous to the doc. Testosterone has almost no oral bioavailability unless you are taking testosterone undecanoate capsules which are very expensive and dosing protein shakes with that would put any supplement company out of business first because of the cost, and secondly because of potential lawsuits. Just goes to show what most docs know about steroids.

Prohormones like androstenedione and diol convert to testosterone but are also very expensive. No chance of that in protein shakes either.

If your test is at 22 nmol/l that is slap bang in the middle of the normal range for guys in their 20s and 30s. That is the same as around 650ng/dl. That was also my test level last time I tested and that's where it should be.

That 349 for estradiol is insanely high. 50 is the max of the normal range and it should really be below 25.

What supplements have you been taking in the last month?

Also had a good laugh at that one...were do u buy your protein... lol

but there is defiantly something wrong with the estrogen levels ????

Yeah well this guy really knows his stuff. Ask Pyroclasm, im still going to listen to him though and go natural then we will see next time what the results are...

Yup can't believe my estrogen is so frikn high?!?!?...

Oh and I only use shakes and creatine...

What are the side effects of such high estrogen, besides the nipples?

Lol at this:lol:

Virus1 what protein shake brand have you been taking?

yep :lol: :lol: shame LOL

Its not the protein or creatine my pal...u turning into a girl ...lol

seriously get those estrogen levels checked again

I still want to know why your doc said your testosterone is too high at 22 and should be 15. Makes no sense. You sure he didn't say that it is 15 but should be 22?