GW-501516 from Liquid-Pharma

Got mine too! Going to try the "Oupa 90 day challenge" lol

Also got mine. And definitely felt a difference on my first workout with it this morning in terms of endurance. Possibly placebo but I don't used a stimulant based preworkout and train at 5 am. I definitely felt I could keep going longer than usual and pushing harder than usual towards the end of my session!!!

IronKobra767 wrote: Also got mine. And definitely felt a difference on my first workout with it this morning in terms of endurance. Possibly placebo but I don't used a stimulant based preworkout and train at 5 am. I definitely felt I could keep going longer than usual and pushing harder than usual towards the end of my session!!!

I took mine yesterday around lunch time and when I trained at 6.30 PM I felt no difference.

Let's see today, although does it really get to work that quickly? I think it might be placebo

how are you guys timing the dose? does it matter? sorry if it has been covered already

Demolish wrote: how are you guys timing the dose? does it matter? sorry if it has been covered already

I usually did 20mg at 0900, fasted, trained at 1200. From what I remember timing doesn't make a noticeable difference. But maybe there's more recent findings I'm not aware of?

PsyCLown wrote:

IronKobra767 wrote: Also got mine. And definitely felt a difference on my first workout with it this morning in terms of endurance. Possibly placebo but I don't used a stimulant based preworkout and train at 5 am. I definitely felt I could keep going longer than usual and pushing harder than usual towards the end of my session!!!

I took mine yesterday around lunch time and when I trained at 6.30 PM I felt no difference.

Let's see today, although does it really get to work that quickly? I think it might be placebo

My research suggests that you would notice a difference in endurance from first use. Taken 30 - 60 minutes before training. Open to my experience being placebo but as I say, I train 5 am every morning without a stimulant base preworkout so I'm pretty in tune with my energy levels and how far I can push. I took it at 04h30 with water on waking and started training 05h15. Will report back over the next 2 weeks on continued experience of hightened endurance or not.

1 hour before training mornings, 1 hour before training evenings.

Ye I always took it first thing in the am on an empty stomach, when I went up 50/ 60mg a day I split it

Rhino wrote: Ye I always took it first thing in the am on an empty stomach, when I went up 50/ 60mg a day I split it

Holy shit that's a lot. What results did you see dosing so high?

I did quite a lot of reading on it and the doses varied so I tried a couple of different approaches. It didn't make much difference over 20/30 to be honest.
I never found it much of a fat burner but it helped loads for endurance. I was also able to eat and drink loads of carbs when I went on holiday without picking up fat but that's basically what all the studies show. That it help you dispose of carbs and use fat more efficiently as an energy source

People who are going to run it for a month shouldn't expect any miracles you need to run it for 90+ days like Oupa says.

Rhino wrote: People who are going to run it for a month shouldn't expect any miracles you need to run it for 90+ days like Oupa says.

This is interesting and good to know.

So when do you really start to notice the endurance benefits if you need to run it for 90+ days?

Endurance kicks in pretty quickly, the first week but as far as weight difference it takes a bit longer

hi guys,

im also interested in running the GW for at least 90 days.

i see MA mentioned this a few posts back

"The theory is that GW501516 increases the risk for cancer in rodents due to high expression of these COX-2 enzymes. So taking a COX-2 inhibitor such as tribulus or even aspirin should counter that to some extent."

should i add something like this while on the GW or not?

@Rhino, ahh I got you. So for endurance you can run it for less than 90 days, however to reap the benefits of fat loss best is to run it for 90+ days.

Garth89 wrote: hi guys,

im also interested in running the GW for at least 90 days.

i see MA mentioned this a few posts back

"The theory is that GW501516 increases the risk for cancer in rodents due to high expression of these COX-2 enzymes. So taking a COX-2 inhibitor such as tribulus or even aspirin should counter that to some extent."

should i add something like this while on the GW or not?

Up to you, I am not adding anything extra to run with the GW.

Garth89 wrote: hi guys,

im also interested in running the GW for at least 90 days.

i see MA mentioned this a few posts back

"The theory is that GW501516 increases the risk for cancer in rodents due to high expression of these COX-2 enzymes. So taking a COX-2 inhibitor such as tribulus or even aspirin should counter that to some extent."

should i add something like this while on the GW or not?

Trib is my choice, aspirin should not be used chronically. It's judge on of those things: you take oral steroids you automatically use liver support, you take GW you automatically take Trib.

Furk wrote:

Garth89 wrote: hi guys,

im also interested in running the GW for at least 90 days.

i see MA mentioned this a few posts back

"The theory is that GW501516 increases the risk for cancer in rodents due to high expression of these COX-2 enzymes. So taking a COX-2 inhibitor such as tribulus or even aspirin should counter that to some extent."

should i add something like this while on the GW or not?

Trib is my choice, aspirin should not be used chronically. It's judge on of those things: you take oral steroids you automatically use liver support, you take GW you automatically take Trib.

Now you making me think I should get myself some Tribulus...
I guess rather safe than sorry.


Which Tribulus Terrestris product are you guys on / would you recommend? What sort of dosage is recommended to help counter the possible negative effects of GW?

And should females also be supplementing with trib?

I remember I used a Biogen Trib (because it is pure Trib, local, and affordable) and just went with the recommended dosage. I don't remember if I confirmed said dose to be sufficient, with research. If I find answers I'll revert.

Hi all. Has anyone experienced any headaches as a potential side effect? My girlfriend and I are both experiencing regular headaches and the only thing that's really changed is the addition of GW into our supplement stack.

IronKobra767 wrote: Hi all. Has anyone experienced any headaches as a potential side effect? My girlfriend and I are both experiencing regular headaches and the only thing that's really changed is the addition of GW into our supplement stack.

Sorry mate. I can remember GW is the only performance enhancer I've taken that gave me zero side effects.

Furk wrote:

IronKobra767 wrote: Hi all. Has anyone experienced any headaches as a potential side effect? My girlfriend and I are both experiencing regular headaches and the only thing that's really changed is the addition of GW into our supplement stack.

Sorry mate. I can remember GW is the only performance enhancer I've taken that gave me zero side effects.

That's what I'm hoping to hear bud. It's possible it's just the change of season. Thought I'd at least check in with the other members.

No sides to report

IronKobra767 wrote: Hi all. Has anyone experienced any headaches as a potential side effect? My girlfriend and I are both experiencing regular headaches and the only thing that's really changed is the addition of GW into our supplement stack.

Not me, although I hardly ever receive headaches and I never ever take painkillers or aspirin or anything of that sort even on the odd occasion when I do get headaches.

I have been struggling to sleep the past few nights though, but if anything that is more related to my PCT or something else as I have been on GW for over a week now and only the past 2 or 3 nights did I start to struggle with sleep.

Thanks for the feedback guys.